AD #3455 – EV Costs to Fall Below ICE; ZF Pioneers Braided EV Motor Wiring; Mercedes G-Wagon Going All-Electric

November 23rd, 2022 at 11:49am

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Runtime: 10:32

0:08 I’ve Been (Not) Working on The Railroad
0:56 Baidu AV Is Only $37,000
1:36 EV Costs to Fall Below ICE In 2025
2:52 Jeep Compass Gets New ICE Powertrain
4:00 Mercedes G-Wagon Going All Electric
5:18 Ford Launches E-Tourneo
6:53 Audi Q8 e-tron Uses Recycled Plastics
7:32 ZF Pioneers Braided EV Wiring
8:44 What’s with Automakers and Giant Art Displays?

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11 Comments to “AD #3455 – EV Costs to Fall Below ICE; ZF Pioneers Braided EV Motor Wiring; Mercedes G-Wagon Going All-Electric”

  1. Ziggy Says:

    Time for an internal combustion engine question to challenge the viewers over the Thanksgiving holiday: How can an engine rev past it’s peak torque engine speed if the torque is what is enabling the engine to spin in the first place? You would think that once the engine reaches peak torque then that would be as fast as it would be able to spin, but we know that engines go many RPMs beyond their peak torque engine speed.

  2. Lambo2015 Says:

    1 You are confusing the TQ required to spin the engine vs peak TQ. Just as the engine is capable to spin prior to Peak TQ it can continue to spin beyond peak TQ. Besides TQ is a measurement or result of the spin not its purpose.

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    1,2 Peak torque of brush type electric motors is at zero rpm, but some of them spin to to 50,000 rpm.

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    For all those that were in support of this $15 minimum wage you are now seeing the affects. As the obvious places like fast food joints raise prices to account for higher wages and costs of product. All those folks in median jobs just went backwards. When folks that had skilled jobs like a paramedic, tool maker, forklift driver and so many other $15-20 per hour job workers realized they can forget all the stress and flip burgers for the same wage its a bit depressing. Some may have worked for a few years to be where they are and now a high school drop out can start at Burger king for the same rate. Even the better paying jobs like RR workers have gone backwards. While minimum wage in many states is still under $10 many of the employers are having to pay 15-20 a 100% increase. While cost of living increased 6-8% raises have not. So if a RR worker got a 3% increase and cost of living went up 6% they essentially lost 3%. So now we are starting to see everyone above minimum wage pushing for a raise to keep up with the inflation. Its a vicious cycle and RR folks at least have a Union to fight for them. This too will tack on an increase to everything and continue to jack up costs. In the meantime as Sean stated the Auto industry could face a major blow to parts distribution to make the vehicles and distribution to sell completed vehicles. They just cant catch a break anymore. Hopefully they will reach an agreement before any Strikes but if they dont 2023 could start out with horrible 1st quarter numbers.
    I dont think automakers can even use sales over previous year anymore as they have been so screwed up for 2 years now.

  5. Kevin A Says:

    Sean, Is the new Jeep engine a Peugeot design or all new? If I recall correctly, the old engine came from the Chrysler-Mitsubishi-Hyundai cooperative venture. (Tigershark?)

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 Car sales have been down for three years. They were down 15.83% in 2020, and were up a little in 2021. It’s too early to know about 2022, but if there is a rail strike, they will pretty definitely be down from ’21.

    5 According to Wikipedia, the 2.0 turbo currently used in Jeep Wrangler is an Alfa Romeo design.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCA_Global_Medium_Engine

    I don’t know if the one to be used in Compass would be a detuned version of that one, or something different. Yep, the old 2.4 is the Tigershark. It’s been time to retire it for a while. It was always underwhelming in power, efficiency, and NVH compared to most of the competition.

  7. Wim van Acker Says:

    @Autoline Team on G Wagon: not that it matters because many people in the U.S. call it ‘G Wagon” but its name is “G-Wagen” with an e, the abbreviation of “Gelaendewagen”, which is Off-Road Vehicle in German.

  8. Drew Says:

    To the AutoLine Team and all the commenters to ALD, have a safe and fun Thanksgiving!

  9. wmb Says:

    @4.) What your saying makes since, yet, while your reasoning has merit, it’s hard to feel too sorry for the companies when the execs at the top, many of which are making hundreds of millions, or in the case of Mr. Musk, billions of dollars! In my next statement, understand that I’m not implying that the leaders of a company do now work and that they should not be rewarded for how they are leading a successful company! Yet, the people on the shop floor, the railroad works who are doing the physical work that is making the company the success that their decision have directed, and others, they are the ones the closest to and feel the impact of inflation the most! So why shouldn’t they too, receive some to the financial benefits the company as a whole brings in?! Where I have worked for the past 17 years, the current leadership, though we have a union, is forcing the workers to except a contract that, despite inflation, gives the work force no raises over the life of the contract, requires workers not only to continue to their current pay check contributions for benefits they receive, but is switching to a high deductible format. This requires participants to pay out of pocket for all doctor visit, medical procedures and medications, until they reach a threshold of $2000 for those who are single and $4000 for those with families! This is touted as a means to save money, by having the employees take up more of the cost of healthcare. This is not a problem for younger workers, since they have fewer health issues, for the most part. The workers who are up in age and after years of sacrificing themselves for this employer, are the ones who will feel the weight/cost of this new initiative! Yet, they have hired more middle managers, department heads and other members of leadership, then we have ever had in our history. All of them with salaries that range from $70K to over $130K+! We have become so top heavy, but the work force is shrinking and all are being asked to do a LOT more, for the same amount, which means we’re actually making less! Yet, if we successed, it’s said to be as a result of the folks we have in charge! If we experience anything less then greatness, then it’s the fault of the legacy employees, because they can’t see to get along with the new direction! I agree with you that perhaps raising the minimum wage does impact the skilled work force, but shouldn’t that increase compel business leaders to do more for their skilled labor?! For, as great as their leadership may be, it means nothing if they don’t have the work force to implement that direction! Just a thought.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The electric G-Wagen will be useful only for commuting with a 100 kWh battery, given how draggy and heavy the gas one is, having 14/17 EPA gas mileage ratings with the smaller engine, and 13/16 for the AMG version. It seems unlikely to have even 200 mile range.

  11. Lambo2015 Says:

    9 Absolutely agree! I certainly do not feel sorry for the companies that can pay their CEO’s the ridiculous increase while taking more away from the workers. But the increase in pay at the bottom pushes everyone above to want a similar increase. While at the very top the gap from workforce and CEO’s has increased dramatically. I was never so frustrated than when K-mart was going belly up and they continued to bring in a new CEO after new CEO that was going to turn things around and all they did was collect a pay in the millions leave after 12 months with a bonus multi-million dollar exit fee. Paid for doing nothing but closing more stores. Thats just so wrong.

    Granted many of the CEO’s today have converted traditional pay into stock options and in the case of Elon knows he will be compensated extremely well, however only if the company does well. I have less of a problem with that other than he does tend to manipulate the stock with news briefs or twitter comments about things that don’t always materialize. That group at the top still operates like the “Good old Boys” club where the CEO’s are on the boards of their buddies companies and approve the ridiculous pays. They protect their own and make sure they get paid in the process. That goes back to ethics which is getting harder to find within business. Much harder to stop than just pushing for a raise.

    Your example is exactly why unions are still needed. Its not the early days where workers needed protection from harsh working conditions, child labor or abuse. We have laws and organizations like OSHA to protect workers from many of those problems but the pay and work-load negotiations can be resolved with a strong union where it may not with individual complaints. I wish you well and hope they do not accept a contract with zero increases. Especially right now when cost of living is taking a huge jump and workers are in demand. Workers have the current situation in their favor. This will make negotiations fierce and a lot less predictable. The workers know that have a good hand the company cannot afford to be disrupted nor hire replacements easily. Everyone is looking for workers. But Companies know everyone is feeling the pressure of inflation and how long can they hold out for a great contract. My guess is the RR contract wont be resolved until the last minute if not after a strike.

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