AD #3520 – EV Pickup Owners Use Trucks Differently; GM’s Ultra Cruise Requires 15 Sensors; Lambo Upgrades Its Hybrid

March 7th, 2023 at 12:03pm

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Runtime: 10:58

0:00 Tesla Mexico Progressing at Lightning Speed
0:44 EV Pickup Owners Use Trucks Differently
1:32 GM’s Ultra Cruise Requires 15 Sensors
3:15 New Kona EV Has 300 Miles of Range
4:32 Hyundai Introducing Automatic Suspension System
5:41 Audi Wants To Recycle Old Cars Into New Ones
6:37 Mercedes Opens New Battery Recycling Plant
7:53 Honda AV Helps Make Work Easier
8:54 Lambo Upgrades Hybrid to 1,000HP
10:03 New Renault Espace Claims Largest Glass Roof

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18 Comments to “AD #3520 – EV Pickup Owners Use Trucks Differently; GM’s Ultra Cruise Requires 15 Sensors; Lambo Upgrades Its Hybrid”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sean; When will you be back into your studio? Its been a while.

    The Ford Lightning stats were surprising on the surface. Cause I could see the DIYer wanting one for home projects where they can plug a circular saw or Mitersaw into the bed of the truck and keep the mess outside. The camping stat of 10% more going camping though leaves out some very important parts. 1) Are they tent camping and taking everything in the bed. 2) Are they camping at a seasonal site where the trailer is parked all summer? 3) Are they actually towing anything? 4) How far away are they camping from home? Answer those 4 questions and I doubt the Lightning stats are still as impressive.

  2. Lambo2015 Says:

    I hope you get more information on the Honda Autonomous Work Vehicle. It sounds good in theory, but I am curious how they determine where it needs to go. On a construction site with no real roads or paths the route could be quite complicated. They get pretty rutted and muddy and that didn’t look very off-road capable. Not to mention the route could change throughout the day/week. Plus on most construction sites material is dropped typically in the best location for point of use so just trying to think of what would be moved around a site. Best use I could envision is brick layers typically have the sand mortar and mixer in one location and brick or blocks set around the building. So delivering mix could be a good use. I just wonder if it requires a set path to be put in place or if this AWV will find its way around obstacles. Or maybe they are thinking construction of like a factory and this traveling on a large concrete slab. Interesting either way.

  3. GM Veteran Says:

    Interesting that Renault is showing off that huge sunroof in the Espace, just as Tesla announces that they will no longer offer sunroofs because customers don’t use them.

  4. GM Veteran Says:

    The new Kona is a nice styling execution, inside and out. Two nits though: No idea what is on the center of the steering wheel, but its not a Hyundai logo. Also, very disappointing that they could not find a better way to integrate the charging door on the front of the vehicle. It looks like a total afterthought and kinda ruins the otherwise sleek and modern front appearance.

  5. Albemarle Says:

    The stats on pickup trucks confirms what we all suspected; many if not most people drive pickups because they want to, not because they have to. No problem in making the choice, just no need to be defensive. I bought it because I want it.

    The concept of Personal Carbon Footprint was invented by BP to take the pressure off them.

  6. Lambo2015 Says:

    5 Actually the reason why people buy trucks would require a survey with their answers answering that question. Rather than a quick survey asking do you regularly tow or haul. That only answers the obvious reason to buy a truck. As mentioned here many times some people that own campers or boats and may only tow them 8-10 times a year. But they need a truck or large SUV to do that. Its hard to justify buying a 50K truck to park it and only use those 10 times a year. So yes the other 355 days of the year they tow and haul nothing. Its still hauls the family around and gets them to work and when they want to leave for a week with the boat they can.
    Just saying I dont think its as simple as they make it sound when they do these surveys. Rather than ask how often they haul or tow. Ask why they bought a truck and results will be very clear. I would bet less than 10% buy a truck just because they wanted one. They are too expensive to not have a need, even if they need is only 10 times a year.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6 I realize that it’s a sample of only 10 or so, but the vast majority of pickup truck owners I know bought them “because they like trucks.” They never tow. A van would work much better for what they haul, because they wouldn’t need aftermarket covers, toppers, lids, etc. to create closed space. I think it’s partly, or maybe largely the “image” with many of them. They are too macho to be seen driving a minivan, or a midsize CUV.

    I know a couple in Florida that have two vehicles, a Tahoe and a Silverado. They never haul or tow anything, and they only rarely have more than two people in the vehicles. They just “like” big trucks.

    As far as the Lightning, those that use them for camping must either tent camp, or if they use a big trailer, either they camp close to home, or they don’t mind making frequent, extended stops, and in most cases, unhitching the trailer to charge.

    Yes, I buy sports cars because I like them, not because the make sense.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Regarding yesterday’s discussion about Tesla going to 48 volts for their low voltage power, does anyone here know how they will do it? Will they have a 48 volt battery? Will they regulate down to 48 volts from the big battery? Will they “tap into” part of the big battery?

  9. XA351GT Says:

    The lightning is a toy truck worse than a 70s mini truck was. Do yourselves a favor and watch the Fast Lane Truck on youtube . The Lightning’s lack of range is stunning for the price. I looked at one Sunday on the lot while searching for a maverick to look at. They had a Anti-Matter Blue lariat for the low low bargain price of $91,484 . With that price you get a advertised range of 240 miles providing it’s 75F with a tail wind. Load this thing down and the range absolutely falls into the abyss. FLT did a test with a Lightning and gas F150 with the same appointments towing identical empty enclosed toy hauler trailers . They struggled to get 80 miles of range between charges . meanwhile the gasser has double the range on a tank and can be refiled in minutes not hour(s). They are perfect for people who don’t really go that far , 90K + yeah no thanks . I’ll stick with my 98 F150

  10. XA351GT Says:

    So what happens when that Ultra cruise tries to take you down a closed road due to construction or will it be like idiots that follow GPS into rivers ?

  11. Lambo2015 Says:

    I would imagine tent camping with a lightning would be great! Especially if you’re off the beaten path. Having a 120V outlet to run a fan, lights and maybe even a hotplate. That feature would certainly be useful. I just question how big the market is for people that can buy afford a Lightning and still tent camp. The portable power packs are pretty popular which is sorta what you’re getting. (wow that was a lot of “P”s)

  12. Drew Says:

    I’m not surprised by the results of the truck survey based on the way the questions were asked. Of course 1st time truck owners will explore their new-found functionality… whereas repeat truck owners may have already done some of the projects claimed by the newbies.

  13. Ziggy Says:

    4 ++
    7 I think as people age they want to feel safer and safer and big vehicles give you that feeling of being safe out on the road, whether that is true or not.

  14. Albemarle Says:

    A number of my friends trailer camp at the same place each year. They tow the trailer to their seasonal spot and it stays till they tow it to the storage shed. Camping doesn’t always mean you’re peripatetic.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 The Lightning will tow a big trailer, but not very far. Time will tell how the market sorts out when BEV pickups are widely available and competition brings prices down. I can see them being used by contractors who make short trips towing equipment to local jobs, and charge overnight. Then, there is the majority of pickup buyers who tow and haul nothing. They would work for their commutes, but until prices come down, I don’t see a big market. Those who do extended trips towing anything will want ICErs for some time to come. A friend works in the motor home business, and they aren’t seeing much interest in BEVs.

  16. wmb Says:

    How many individuals would spend $75-90K for a pickup or SUV to do serious heavy construction type work and it not be a heavy duty work truck? Not many! The Lightning at that price is in most cases a recreation/personal use vehicle. As has been mentioned, while the ICE F-150 can be refueled in minutes, the BEV can be charged at home. And while the range of the Lightning is not as great as the F-150, it doesn’t matter how quickly you can refuel the ICE version, if your on ‘E’ and out in the boondocks, miles away from a gas station, you will still have range anxiety! That’s the thing that doesn’t make since to me, people act like no one has ever ran out of fuel with an ICE vehicle! Whether you drive a BEV or ICE vehicle, planning your trips around how much fuel you have or will consume is a must! I drive a 2020 single cab F-150 at work, which when fueled up, said that it can travel 400 miles on a tank, but it only gets according to its onboard mileage tracker, 14 miles to the gallon. I drive about 50 miles a day, never tow and the equipment that’s kept in the bed, is only light work for the truck. Our division has two other F-150’s and there about 50 other like vehicles in different divisions of the department we are in. If all of those vehicles were replaced by Lightnings, Rivians, Silverado EVs or Ram 1500 REVs, no one would skip a beat and be none the wiser! We could all go about three or four days without recharging and charge over night with a few chargers, if we rotated our vehicles time a charging stations.

  17. Lambo2015 Says:

    16 I think it does matter how quickly you can recharge vs refuel. If the Lightning is designed around personal light duty use. (obviously since its a 150 and not a HD or work truck 250+) If you are in say Middle Ohio (Columbus) and you want to go camping in Mackinaw city Michigan towing your camper. Thats about 465 miles one way.
    Towing with your ICE you only get 10 mpg so you need to get gas @ every 225 miles. That takes 10 minutes. Its a 6 hour 44 min drive plus 20 min for gas = 7 hours 4 min. You can leave Friday morning at 8am and be there by 3:00 in the afternoon.

    Towing with a Lightning you get 90 miles of range and need to stop 6 times to recharge. Each charge assuming you can find on your trip and are quick chargers you can fill in one hour then you just added 6 hours to your 6:44 min drive =12 hours and 44 minutes. You leave at 8am and arrive at almost 9pm you get to set up camp in the dark.

    Plus on your little weekend getaway you have wasted 12 hours charging instead of vacationing at your location. You arrive late on Friday and will need to leave early on Sunday to be home at a decent time Sunday night. Thats where it makes a difference. Yes the daily short range use would be perfect for the Lightning but if you have any chance of traveling I would think using it would be miserable.


    16) I have driven all over the USA in every single direction and in every single state. Not once have I planned my trips around fuel station locations. Not even once. It is simply not a concern. There are areas where gas stations are few and far between; but for most trips that is not the case. On the road to Alaska there is a spot that you better bring gas cans as there are zero gas stations for several hundred miles. Note though, you can bring gas cans. You cannot, for example, bring a spare battery to make it to the destination on that road.