AD #3644 – Acura Says No To GM Techs Servicing New ZDX; Tesla’s Sales Soar in China; UAW Calls GM’s Proposal “Insulting”

September 8th, 2023 at 11:51am

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Runtime: 9:22

0:00 Rivian Expects Big Drop in Battery Raw Material Prices
0:55 Mullen Automotive in Trouble
1:46 UAW President Calls GM’s Counter Offer “Insulting”
2:32 Ford Fast Tracks 8,000 Workers to Top Wage Rate
3:44 Acura Doesn’t Want GM Techs to Service New ZDX
5:58 Argo AI Founders Form New Autonomous Trucking Startup
6:55 Tesla’s Sales Soar in China
7:43 Cadillac’s Goddess Makes Return on Celestiq

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25 Comments to “AD #3644 – Acura Says No To GM Techs Servicing New ZDX; Tesla’s Sales Soar in China; UAW Calls GM’s Proposal “Insulting””

  1. Norm T Says:

    Guess who Acura/Honda techs are going to contact for tech support? Yup, GM tech line.

    GM techs have be servicing Tesla’s for years now.

  2. GM Veteran Says:

    So, is the self-driving technology in the Acura ZDX actually GM’s SuperCruise technology or is it Acura’s technology?

  3. Wim van Acker Says:

    @TESLA Amazing success for TESLA in China. 13% Market share and Model Y best selling vehicle in the market!

  4. GM Veteran Says:

    I think there is more to tell about Mullen. In addition to the items mentioned in today’s report, they also recently started production of a medium duty EV truck called the Mullen Three and they have been producing the Class 1 small delivery van called the Mullen One for about six months now. That is the van from the ELMS company that they acquired. They have a decent order bank for both of those vehicles. In that deal, they also acquired a small production plant in Mishawaka, IN and recently finished building a new plant to produce all of the Mullen commercial vehicles in Tunica, MS.

    They own Bollinger Motors and have a production agreement with Roush Industries to build two medium duty EV truck models at a plant in Livonia, MI.

    They also filed a lawsuit against several Wall St firms accusing them of stock manipulation. The company’s stock has been hit hard by short sellers, but it seems there may be even more going on behind the scenes at these investment firms. Time will tell.

  5. Lambo2015 Says:

    So between the inflation related payment of 6k and the ratification signing bonus of $5500 Workers could have gotten $11,500 now with another 5K in inflation protection on top of the 2.5% raise each year for the next 4 years.

    Pretty obvious GM is trying to keep labor costs down and is willing to throw some good money at them today to get an agreement. Just too bad that inflation since 2020 totaled about 18.1% according to bureau of labor and statistics.

  6. Wim van Acker Says:

    @Mullen, @4 The Mullen Five is a great looking vehicle as far as I am concerned.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I guess Acura doesn’t trust GM techs, but a reason a Florida neighbor with an MDX is looking elsewhere for a replacement, is that Acura has only a handful of dealers, none very conveniently located.

  8. kevin a Says:

    Is it just me or does the ZDX with the black room and chrome strip have a ‘mini-hearse’ kind of vibe? Maybe they should have waited until Halloween to introduce it.

  9. Tim Beaumont Says:

    Autonomous Dreams

    I have a 2017 Tesla P100D with FSD. It has been updated continuously with hardware and software. It has become much better, but it still doesn’t drive autonomously the same as, or in my opinion, as safely as me.

    At highway speeds it will get still be confused by erroneously taking an exit ramp when I am in the right most lane (or ‘slow lane’ as it is called in the US), although this is occurring less often. It is usually when the exit coincides with a gradual sweeping turn to the left, the opposite direction, and is often associated with a slight gradient change. The car disengages with the ‘full attention alarm mode’.

    In city traffic it sometimes does not keep the lane when turning left at an intersection. It ‘slides’ one lane to the right. This is unfortunately the usual unsafe practice of most human drivers in the USA. They should keep the lane, then change lanes once clear of the intersection.

    Most recently my car slowed abruptly causing traffic flow behind to do the same. I was on a two lanes each way suburban road (a US boulevard) speed limited to 45 mph, in the left lane and had just passed an intersection. A pickup turned right from the intersection, appropriately keeping their near lane. I would have continued normally while being aware of the truck, but my car slowed abruptly perhaps anticipating a collision. The traffic following me also had to suddenly slow from 45 to 10 mph unexpectedly.

    I used to report these types of errors to Tesla by email on my account, but never received an acknowledgment or reply. Tesla has now removed that contact option.

    I think autonomy has a long way to go yet. It might be improved by V2V, vehicle to vehicle communications, but try getting individualistic Americans to agree to that, keeping in mind the rancor about daytime driving lights.

  10. Merv Says:

    Great week of autoline,thanks

  11. Wim van Acker Says:

    @10 Great Autoline shows, indeed.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 Interesting. I always questioned them calling it “full self driving,” and with good reason. It looks like tailgaters need to avoid tailgating Teslas. Does FSD recognize horns, as they might be used if a car with FSD drifts into your lane when turning a corner?

  13. Tim Beaumont Says:

    12 – Good question. I don’t recall being directly honked at. I tend to drive very conservatively (and not in New York city!) But I do know that FSD does not seem to react to honking noises down the street, etc.

  14. Gary Narten Says:

    Maybe it’s just me but the new Acura ZDX black roof line and trim reminds me of a hearse! Could be a big mistake.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    8,14 Two of you are seeing that, so they should probably rethink some styling cues.

  16. Sean Wagner Says:

    Very significant Tesla China news, there. But 13.2% market share of 1.9 million vehicles would be 251,000, all from one factory (Models S and X aside). Plus any sold inventory, of course.

    Is that the case? I’ve been suspecting that throughput is the chief reason Tesla’s kept stamped chassis parts for the Model 3. I won’t call it revamped.

    About ex-Argo, there’s also Waabi from Toronto, a hotbed of AI, focussing on self-driving trucks. It seems like a smart choice, since there are no impatient passengers, and as long as the predicted and promised travel time is achieved, all parties should be happy.

  17. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I would call the Tesla 3 a mild refresh; maybe not enough to spur new buyers or encourage current buyers to trade in for a new one.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 The refresh has a major turnoff to me, no turn signal stalk. Turn signal non-use will be even worse with these than with other cars, when you have to feel for a button on the steering wheel. The DOT isn’t doing their job to even allow it.

  19. Robby D. Dodge Says:

    Just wondering if the big 3 strike what happens to other auto manufacturers say like Toyota who isn’t union? Can they still get parts they need to run?

  20. ChuckGrenci Says:

    18, Ditto; and good point(s) about safety, etc.

  21. Sean Wagner Says:

    Have to agree that zeroing out the stalks on the Model 3 impacts driving safety. Here in Europe, traffic circles are ubiquitous, and there’s no good way to blink without distraction now. It smacks of activism for the sake of being different.

    Tesla reversed itself with the yoke and more significantly radar (I think) – it needs to do the same in this regard.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It would seem that governments’ mandating turn signal stalks, and maybe stalks for wiper switches would make more sense than some things they are mandating.

  23. Lambo2015 Says:

    7 I doubt if it’s a matter of Acura not trusting GM techs as much as its about service revenue. Since most dealerships make far more money servicing vehicles than they do selling new ones.

    9 Great feedback, and it’s too bad Tesla no longer accepts it or even acknowledged when you did it earlier. That was well written and conveyed the problems clearly. But I could imagine not all feedback it as valuable or clear. Weeding through the nonsense for the helpful feedback was probably a monumental chore. Or maybe they are already aware of most of the things people were complaining about.

    I too believe we are much further away from full self driving than we have been led to believe. Sure it will work in select cities and with ideal environmental conditions. So we will likely see the continued expansion of services like Cruise. Which is good to work out the bugs on roads typically under 35 mph. But for the general consumer to be offered a vehicle with actual full self-driving even in ideal conditions I believe we are still many years away (10+) and as for 100% all the time I’m not sure if we will ever get there as freezing rain and snow will be a tough obstacle for all the sensors needed to work properly.
    But the good thing is it could one day really reduce the congestion in major cities with large quantity of FSD cabs and possibly even banning personal vehicles from entering without a permit. Making parking garages and lots obsolete.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22,7 From a neighbor’s experience, Acura dealer shops have all of the business they need. There are days-long waits to get appointments.


    22) This is very true. Full self driving in every location in the world is going to require a significant infrastructure improvement to allow it. Mainly in locations that have to deal with snow, ice, and heavy downpour. To go full self driving will require V2V and V2I communication along with an entire array of current and as yet to be developed sensors. The road will need to communicate to the vehicle where the lane is located and what the surface conditions are, particularly in snow which covers up lane markings(V2I). We are decades away from this and will see a series of limited usage and stories from auto journalists proclaiming a future that is farther away then they will know. Of course if all this existed now, we probably would not even require autonomous vehicles…but that is a whole other story.