AD #3646 – AVs Getting Closer to Human Drivers; India Moves to Phase Out Diesels; Stellantis’ 1st EV on New Platform

September 12th, 2023 at 11:47am

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Runtime: 9:28

0:00 UAW Strike Looms, Two Days to Go
1:15 India Moves to Phase Out Diesels
1:51 Stellantis Reveals 1st EV on New Platform
3:28 Consumers Prefer Charging Partnerships
4:27 Nissan Revives Baseball Teams
4:52 XPeng Ditching Direct Sales for Dealerships
5:17 High-End Tech Going Into Low-End Chinese Cars
6:16 Tesla & Suppliers Spending Big in Mexico
6:47 AVs Getting Closer to Human Drivers

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14 Comments to “AD #3646 – AVs Getting Closer to Human Drivers; India Moves to Phase Out Diesels; Stellantis’ 1st EV on New Platform”

  1. George Ricci Says:

    On the topic AV disengagements, you will not see Tesla’s Full Self Driving (FSB) data. Tesla’s current interpretation of the FSD Beta, which is now in use in more than 300,000 customer vehicles, is that it is a driver assistance system that does not require reporting to the California DMV.

  2. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sean do you know if the tax on Diesels in India was just in the private sector or does that include commercial vehicles?

    The Peugeot E-3008 looks a lot like the Mach-E to me. Specifically, the rear.

    Even when AV’s are better than human drivers it will be hard to sway public perception as any failure/crash will be met with more criticism than when a human makes a mistake. We just expect more from automation.

  3. Jim Haines Says:

    UAW burn baby burn have at it

  4. Wim van Acker Says:

    @2 Peugeot E-3008: very much so. My sister lives in Europe and her neighbor drives a 3008. Looks very much like a Mach-E.

    AVs: those have to be better than humans because we humans are collectively very bad at driving. The liability seems to me the biggest issue: when an AV is involved in a crash, who is at fault? The driver, the owner (if not the driver), the OEM, the supplier of the failed system (and who determines that?) or ?

    Humans apply different standards to competing technologies. Example: nuclear power generation which has the best safety record of all energy sources but continues to be the suspect.

  5. Merv Says:

    Took my fav car out for spin yesterday,rolled off 600k through some nice roads. I’m not looking to replace “me”, I love driving. Not into cruise control at all. So all this other tech-meh

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    5 I’m not ready to replace “me” either, but I use cruise control a lot. I use constant-speed CC, though, not adaptive, which one of my cars has.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    This is a re-post from yesterday, but I’m still curious if anyone else has seen this.

    I just got gas at a Sunoco station where regular was $3.599, mid-grade was $4.999 and premium was $5.999. Has anyone else seen such a huge difference among grades? This is in Kokomo, IN.


    7) Not around here. Regular is $3.62, Mid is $4.12, and Premium is $4.62. In general I would say the spread between regular and premium is typically a $1. The spread you are seeing in Kokomo would be odd to me.

  9. Bob Wilson Says:

    #1 – Either a recent “Solving the Money Problem” or “Tesla Daily” report claims Elon told the FSD team that games have a score and the units are miles per disconnect. Reported, there is a large screen showing the current metric and a ‘gong’ is sounded when the value improves.

  10. Warwick DUNDAS Says:

    Sean, it is rare for me to spot an “error” in your daily reports, but I may have one today. You correctly identified the new e-3008 as being the first production vehicle built on the STLA Medium platform, but referring to the prototype Dodge Charger Daytona as built on STLA Medium may be technically true, but the new large cars from Dodge and Chrysler will be on STLA Large.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    8 I think the $2 spread is odd in Kokomo too, maybe just one station. Anyway, I use regular in my Mini which specifies “prememium recommended” but not required. It a low boost, mildly tuned 2.0 turbo with 189hp. I use premium in the Cayman with its higher boost 300hp 2 0 turbo.

  12. Sean Wagner Says:

    US share of new EV registrations by brand
    (January – July 2023)
    Rank Brand Regs Share of EV Market
    1 Tesla 390,377 59.5%
    2 Chevy 39,647 6.0%
    3 Ford 33,955 5.2%
    4 Hyundai 28,189 4.3%
    5 BMW 23,116 3.5%

    Over time, I think Tesla will need to invest in a premium interior option (stalks…) for models 3 & Y, and see more of that business go to BMW, Mercedes, Genesis, Cadillac, et al..

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    12 Goes to show that Ford and Gm could be in for a world of hurt if they continue to only sell 10% of what Tesla does. Seems to be a minor issue for now, with EVs just breaking the 8% of the overall market. But If Tesla can hold onto that percentage of market share in the US thats like the 1950′s GM and a serious threat.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 Tesla won’t hold onto that market share, but they could certainly continue to increase the numbers. GM seems to be having trouble building EVs, except Bolt, which is being phased out in its current form.

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