AD #1622 – Suppliers Bash Detroit OEMs, Toyota’s Fuel Cell Breakthrough, 2016 Chevy Camaro

May 18th, 2015 at 11:54am

Runtime: 8:17

- Suppliers Bash Detroit OEMs
- ZF Completes TRW Takeover
- Toyota’s Fuel Cell Breakthrough
- TV Networks Ignore Indy
- Chevy Reveals 2016 Camaro
- Fast N’ Loud Giveaway

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33 Comments to “AD #1622 – Suppliers Bash Detroit OEMs, Toyota’s Fuel Cell Breakthrough, 2016 Chevy Camaro”

  1. David Sprowl Says:

    The Indianapolis 500 race is blacked out in my area. Having said that I watched on TV live coverage of the qualifications on Sunday. I believe one of the ESPN channels had it.

  2. Mike Says:

    I have worked both sides. On the OEM team and then later on a supplier team. What I resent is the dishonesty on the OEM side. They will shop your ideas to all the competitors. They will support bogus rejections. They want all the benefits of a local supplier but then they also want the Chinese price. When that is not low enough, then they want the Indian or Vietnamese price. I never once felt I was in a partnership with the OE companies or their buyers.

  3. Rob Says:

    Supplier relations with Detroit OEMs will never improve until the OEMs get out of the mentality that suppliers need to bow to their requests (no matter how unreasonable) or dont do any future business with them.
    What other industry can you have a contract to do business and have the customer just cut the P.O.s by a percentage at their whim? Raise a fuss and you’ll never receive another contract.

  4. Bradley Says:

    Imagine that, two cars and the slightly smaller and lighter one is sportier to drive. This will give GM a 10 year head start on the competition.

    Kudos, to GM for moving the Camaro in the right direction…but it really never should have been that BIG to start.

  5. Lisk Says:

    ESPN & ABC were slated to cover the Qualifying on Saturday, but weather stopped that. On Sunday, it aired on the Columbus, Ohio market on ESPN, in place of Sports Center. I agree on the trouble of finding it. The fan base looked to be slightly down from the 100,000+ that used to show up for pole day. I doubt there were 3,000 folks in the stands. What a shame.

  6. Buzzerd Says:

    the test drive looked like a bit of a parade so how did two cars get bent?

  7. Rob Says:

    2 I agree Mike, and I’m suprised how any savings can be justified with the poor qulity and responce I have experienced with Chinese suppliers. Great piece price until you have a defect. Their reaction plan is to use sub-standard parts until the fix is in place which really means use the 10K of parts lready on a ship to minimize loss.

  8. Grant fisher Says:

    Good initial coverage of the 2016 Camaro.
    Thx.

  9. HtG Says:

    Ghosn autonomous by 2020

    Nissan’s Carlos Ghosn is saying that they will have autonomous cars ready to go in 2020 and only govt regs and consumer caution is slowing them down. Ghosn says they wish to, “[duplicate] in the vehicle the experiences a person has at home or in the office.”

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/18/nissan_ceo_get_auto_wagons_ready_2020/

    el Reg is a computer news site. Interesting to read the piece here.

  10. Roger Blose Says:

    On the new Camaro, do you think that Mark Reuss could squeeze out through those even smaller side windows in the even of a roll over? How could they not fix the visibility problems of the past??

  11. C-Tech Says:

    Will we see Indy adopt some form of reverse air flap like NASCAR, or will they wait until someone gets hurt?

    This will make the match-up between Mustang and Camaro more interesting in the near future. I guess Dodge is out, so much for the Dodge performance strategy.

  12. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I was hoping for an even more downsized Camaro but at least they did head in the right direction. The ‘Pony’ car wars are alive and well (except maybe the Challenger; next one needs big time downsizing); anyway, the new Mustang with new Boss’s, GT-500′s and maybe a Shelby and the Camaro with 1LE’s, SS’s, Z-28′s and ZL-1′s are going to be interesting.

    Richard Rawlings; not a fan, but that JMHO.

  13. HtG Says:

    I stopped paying attention to Indy some years ago, and these cars flipping over has actually gotten my attention back.

  14. pedro fernandez Says:

    Will Sergio be crazy enough to base the next gen Challenger on the Alfa Giuletta platform as well?

  15. pedro fernandez Says:

    #10 New Camaro with the tiny windows, fat people need not bother even test driving this thing.

  16. Lisk Says:

    I watched a Chevrolet interview with Mario Andretti in the 1987 and the subject of “flat bottomed” cars which had been mandated for F1 and when they would come to Indy at the speeds they run, it would be a bad idea. He said without the underbody tunnels when the cars got sideways, without the tunnels to break up the air, the cars would be prone to going airborne when the air passed beneath from any direction except straight ahead.

  17. w l simpson Says:

    Perhaps if GM , among others , had a better relationship w/their suppliers, lives would have been saved , multiple recalls avoided.

  18. dcars Says:

    Does each book come with onr of Richard’s Beer assistants?

  19. dcars Says:

    ….one of…

  20. GM Veteran Says:

    John,

    Was your comment about the four cylinder turbo in the new Camaro achieving 30 mpg accurate? The current V6 model gets 30 mpg Hwy. If correct, I fail to see the logic of offering it, unless it will help sales in countries where they tax vehicles by engine size. Though if that is the case, why offer it in America?

  21. GM Veteran Says:

    #10, I agree with Roger.

    One of the reasons people bought the Camaro in the 90′s in significantly lower numbers than the Mustang was because of its “lay down” seating and claustrophobic interior. They went back to the successful styling and more upright seating of the late 60′s Camaros and now appear to be combining the two. While it may be a great car to drive, many consumers don’t like GM’s “bath tub” styling.

  22. Puremoose Says:

    Camaro –Will the back windows go up and down or are they solid…….?

  23. CarGeek Says:

    Here in south Florida ESPN aired the pole day of the Indy 500 Qualifying. So it was available but you had to search for it after ABC ditched it! Thanks,

  24. pedro fernandez Says:

    Just read online that Toyota will introduce another sporty car below the FR-S, with just a 1.5 130 hp motor. They gotta be kidding!! 130 HP?? any subcompact has more hp than this nowadays, the same mistake they made with the FR-S (underpowered) who is making these bone head decisions?

  25. cwolf Says:

    I am only 5’6″, so I’ve always felt like being swallowed, due to the low seats and/or high door panels. I wonder if the new model would fit a shorter person better than the prior ones? If this new interior is being defined as minimalistic, it sure looks rather busy to me!

  26. pedro fernandez Says:

    cwolf you would love the older GM full size, FWD cars, they had a really high seating position, so do most minivans.And Japanese cars too. But we know how you feel about those.

  27. HtG Says:

    With a stiffened chassis and a turbo, that Camaro sounds like fun. What hasn’t GM thought of with all those engine and tranny combos? (How about that guy that stuffed one of the demonstrators into the wall at Belle Isle? He’d better be writing apology letters)

  28. Kit Gerhartki Says:

    I was hoping the new Camaro would be about the size and weight of an ATS, which is about 500 pounds lighter, and 4 inches narrower than the current Camaro. No luck on that, but they are moving in the right direction. If the interior is greatly improved, which would take much, it should sell.

    Mustang and Camaro fans should have things to discuss, but the Challenger is a different type of car, a big, heavy cruiser. It looks good and has a decent interior, and is selling ok. They should just leave it alone. We don’t need a front drive FIAT-based Challenger, or an expensive track toy with the Challenger name.

  29. Larry Skellion Says:

    Finally thought the new Camaro would’ve fixed the interior… guess I was wrong.. uglier than ever! Did you notice the side profile is now almost identical to the 2015 Mustang? I think this new Camaro is a swing and a miss for GM. Too bad, what a wasted opportunity.

  30. Bradley Says:

    #23

    My Yaris only has 105 hp. A 20% improvement in HP, better chassis and better 6 speed would be a lot of fun.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    23, 28 My MINI only has 118 hp, and it is a fun car.

  32. RumNCoke Says:

    OK, I’ll admit that Richard Rawlings can be pretty entertaining but the guy is way more P.T. Barnum than Boyd Coddington. Does he really need any more self-promotion?

  33. Bob Wilson Says:

    Platinum is not the fool-cell problem . . . hydrogen is.

    Bob Wilson