AD #1626 – World’s 1st Electric Ferry, Why Merger Talk Went Public, New Toyota Hilux Debuts

May 22nd, 2015 at 11:33am

Runtime: 6:49

- 2016 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid
- Toyota Introduces New Hilux Pick-Up
- 1st Electric Ferry Makes Maiden Voyage
- Can You Name This Car?
- Why Merger Talk Went Public

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60 Comments to “AD #1626 – World’s 1st Electric Ferry, Why Merger Talk Went Public, New Toyota Hilux Debuts”

  1. pedro fernandez Says:

    After ISIS buys all the available Hi-Lux trucks, will there be any left over for the general public to purchase?

  2. Roland Martin Says:

    Barn Find: Citroen Mehari

  3. Mike Says:

    The barn find is a Citroen. Note the three lug wheels on it.

    So what is the battery storage system on that Ferry? Maybe I can put it in a Volt and get some real range out of that car.

  4. Mike Says:

    ‘Nuther question for you. Is the new Hi Lux North American Capable? Could it possibly come here as an update for the Tacoma? Better yet with the Diesel Engine?

  5. HtG Says:

    Using the media as a tool? You’re aloud to do that? Sergio too?


    I just deleted a whole paragraph on this topic. Please don’t ask me. All I’ll say is, remember to lean forward in the chair and make an ‘active listening’ face.

  6. David Hanbury Says:

    Barn Finds Friday May 22nd……Mini Moke?

  7. Dan Turnpaugh Says:

    Just want to welcome Kit back to Kokomo.
    The barn find is a Citroen

  8. pedro fernandez Says:

    Don’t understand why we need a Tacoma here and not a Hi-lux like the rest of the world. Toyota does make some bone head decisions sometimes!

  9. GM Veteran Says:

    Hard to believe that in selecting a styling theme for the Hilux, the Toyota executives picked that one. That is one butt ugly little truck! Looks like the Jolly Green Giant stepped on the hood. Gave it kind of a “duck bill” effect. I hope Toyota does bring it to the US as the next Tacoma. GM will instantly pick up more market share for the Colorado/Canyon twins.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    5 Thanks, Dan.

    The new Sonata hybrid has one big advantage over the hybrid versions of generic sedans from other manufacturers, in that it doesn’t lose the fold down back seat, and probably doesn’t lose much, or any trunk space. It, presumably, won’t have a spare tire, which makes it like a BMW. That might be a selling point.

  11. Brett Says:


    I was thinking myself that it looked like Citroen’s answer to the Austin Mini-Moke.

    Citroën Méhari 4×4

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The Barn Find is a Citroen 8.

  13. HtG Says:

    9 It’s got to be the Mehari, since no one in China is crazy enough to copy it.×4&rlz=1CAZZAC_enUS636US636&es_sm=122&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=41xfVdvoMY6UyATq_4CoBw&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1366&

  14. Dave Says:

    Thinking it is a electric cable ferry like the one going to Denman Island BC

  15. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I’m going to go with the Citroen Mehari (Brett #9).

    And a question for Sean: your Dad said during the AAH show that you got to drive the new Camaro, 6th gen); are you ‘embargoed’ or can you ‘spill the beans’?

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 They sell the Hilux in EU countries, so it wouldn’t take much to make it sellable in the U.S.

  17. Bob D Says:

    While not to make light of the ISIS situation, Toyota’s press release for their new Hilux (link above in the show notes) does use some interesting marketing verbiage…. “battling your way”, “coming up against harsher conditions than expected”, and “diehard fanbase”.

  18. Sean McElroy Says:

    #15 – No embargo. What you wanna know?

  19. Sean McElroy Says:

    #10 – You’re right. No spare tire. Just one of those inflator kits.

  20. HtG Says:

    18 Hey Sean! How about rear visibility? How does Camaro compare to ATS in balance and mass?

  21. RumNCoke Says:

    #13 – Mehari? That’s a sucky name. I think they should call it the CorruGator! ;)

  22. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Thats a citroen hebdo limited edition.

  23. disco tea Says:

    @ #5 HtG that was funny. I understood the reference to the Big Obuma network MSNBS. Haha

  24. Sean McElroy Says:

    #20 – I did not get much of a sense for rear visibility. I had my head plastered forward while zipping around the Belle Isle race track. Especially because I didn’t have to worry about someone trying to pass me. I will say that visibility out the front looked more wide open compared to the previous model. The hood height seemed much lower.

    The 2016 Camaro we drove had the new 3.6L V6, while both the ATS sedan and ATS coupe I’ve driven had the 2.0L turbo 4-cylinder, AWD, MagnaRide and were driven on public roads. So, you may have to take this comparison with a grain of salt. But here goes nothing. The balance and mass between the Camaro and ATS feel pretty darn similar. Both definitely don’t mind being flung around and are predictable as to what they’re going to do when traction starts going away, making it easier to get back into line. Although, the Camaro did feel a “little” heavier and a “little” less precise. Most of that I’m sure has to do with a lack of AWD. But I also felt like I sat up higher in the Camaro, which could be part of it as well. I do feel like the Camaro has a better overall ride quality than the ATS. I think the Camaro has a little more side-wall on the tires to soak up some bumps in the road.

  25. Jon M Says:

    Good thing Toyota makes a mid-size truck specifically for N.A. because the new Hilux sure is pure business, if you know what I mean. It’s a moot point to me, though; I wasn’t so crazy about the 2016 Taco. Even if the new one is better overall, I’m grabbing a 2015 while they last.

  26. Paul Foust Says:

    Barn find is probably a The 1969 Citroen Maheri,

  27. Fred Khaz Says:

    Barn Find is Citroen Mehari..

  28. Tony Gray Says:

    Thanks for your comments Sean. Visibility was one of the things that kept me from buying a previous generation Camaro. Maybe I’ll give the new one a look see.

  29. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Sean, thanks; that’s some of what I was wanting to know: how it was to the previous iteration, how close to the ATS does it perform, engine adequate (apparently so), vision still a problem (rearward), etc., etc. Do you like the new Camaro or the new Mustang (both good, but do you have a preference?), that sort of stuff.

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 Sean, did you drive a manual, automatic, or both?

    You didn’t crash, did you? I think that was a Jalopnik guy.

  31. HtG Says:

    Yes, thanks Sean. That’s interesting about the sidewalls.

    So who’s got bets on where Nico parks the car this weekend?

  32. HtG Says:


    Did you guys follow’s Marshall Pruett reporting on how the Indy aero kits were given to the teams with only a day’s advance before they started practicing at the brickyard? And now there’s talk about reverting to last year’s oval kit for the rest of the season? Yep, there’s angry people under the pagoda. I hope no one is seriously hurt in the race; sit high up John.

  33. Raymond Lacharite Says:

    Car ids a Citroen Sahara

  34. Sean McElroy Says:

    We got to drive both a manual and auto. New Tremek manual is better than the old Aisin unit. I would take the new Camaro over the new Mustang. I liked the Camaro interior more. Has better seats. The new 3.6L performed well and had a much better exhaust note than the previous V6.

  35. Ziggy Says:

    1st place, as usual for him at Monaco. Go Nico!!
    It probably doesn’t hurt that he lives there too.

  36. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It sounds like the new Camaro is kind of a bargain ATS. The Caddy’s interior would be nicer, but you can get a manual with the V6 in the Camaro. You can’t get AWD, but I wouldn’t want it anyway.

    Since the Camaro uses the same platform as the ATS, they could offer AWD if there were enough demand, but then it wouldn’t be a Camaro. Yeah, just my opinion.

  37. HtG Says:

    Is Toyota advertising on HuffingtonPost now? I believe that’s a HiLux.

  38. Sam Fiorani Says:

    I’m glad others chimed in with the Citroen Mehari. Always loved those and their rugged little bodies.

  39. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Sam, or anyone who knows, is that Mehari really small, like a Mini Moke, or is it substantially bigger than that?

  40. pedro fernandez Says:

    If ISIS continues to gobble up territory like this, we will be forced to put troops on the ground once more, and these guys are not gonna go down as easy as the Iraqis did back when we invaded, these guys are really motivated to fight to the end. We need a coalition of allies including the few left from the Arab countries.

  41. HtG Says:

    5.23 Mmmm, in truth I was referring to myself doing a tv interview recently. I hope that doesn’t happen again.

  42. Kit Gerhart Says:

    31, 34 Did Nico choke in qualifying?

  43. HtG Says:

    I didn’t watch it, but here’s James Allen’s account.

    Maybe Nico was taking a bigger risk in order to beat Ham, and it didn’t work out. Ham is almost a second ahead of 3rd place Vettel, though JA says fickle weather tomorrow may make for a good race.

  44. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Nico locked up brakes at the end of qualifying session two and again on his last hardcore attempt in qual 3.

    A great race (Monaco; history and scenery) but little passing, (so it loses some interest), for me, in watching, but for those without cable, this one is on NBC (tomorrow morning starting at 0730 Eastern time).

  45. HtG Says:

    Alonso speaking in Monaco

    Something is changing in F1 because the drivers are being much more frank these days. Here’s what Alonso said today after the Honda switched off in quali,

    “I don’t want to sound too pessimistic but this is the Monaco Grand Prix, so the race is Saturday. There is a train of cars on Sunday and we’re starting 15th….”

    I say they’re all getting worried, finally.

  46. Kit Gerhart Says:

    43 Yep, it’s one of few I can watch while in Indiana. I’ll have to get up earlier than normal, though.

  47. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I can’t watch the Indy 500 live, though. It is blacked out, but they have a re-run at 8:00 or so. I’ll listen to part, or most of it on the radio. I’ve been doing that for more than 50 years. The excitement isn’t what it once was.

  48. HtG Says:

    Maybe you might, Kit. The DC ABC affiliate, WJLA livestreams their content online at That’s what I’m going to try, anyway.

  49. Al Jadczak Says:

    The Barn Find car is a Citroen Mehari.

  50. Kit Gerhart Says:

    47 I’ll try it. Thanks.

  51. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Did Mercedes deliberately give the race to Rosberg, to make the championship more interesting?

  52. HtG Says:

    espn live is streaming in car cameras from Indy.

  53. HtG Says:

    Incredible. I think I’m hearing Dixon and his team talking about telling the car in front to get out if the way, but the isn’t hearing very well. Lap 62. Yellow now

  54. brain Says:

    Electric Ferry ?
    or Diesel powered generator electric motor ferry. Truth is most tug boats use diesel engines to power electric motors that drive the propeller. Same is also true of locomotives,.

  55. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Even though it looks like the Mercedes pits dropped the ball on calling Hamilton in, Hamilton himself erred in requesting to pit (or at least putting doubt in the call by mentioning a tire pressure possible problem); there was a lot going on (at the time), and through a comedy of errors, stuff happened.

    Juan Pablo wins Indy. By Indy standards it was a pretty good race; lots of passing/drafting (unfortunately more crashes than there should have been) but a lot of racing (going on) for this one (which sometimes isn’t the case). One crew-man was taken to the hospital (a second pit-man was hit but wasn’t seriously injured); (he was hit by an exiting car that was hit by a second exiting car); (he was wearing a helmet). link:

  56. HtG Says:

    Morning, Chuck. If you’d like to hear the BBC’s review of the Monaco race, here’s a link. (short news report comes first in the file)

    It seems that Merc’s calculations were thrown off by the lack of GPS in Monaco, which is at least one reason for the goof.

    As for Indy, I got to watch the race from Scott Dixon’s seat, as the livestream was all I could get. Very interesting how the driver communicates with his team, how little of the race and crashes actually get in their mind.

  57. Kit Gerhart Says:

    HtG, thanks for the link. Interesting BBC report.

    I just listened to Indy on the radio; it’s kind of a traditional thing to do in the TV blackout area. Montoya seems to a a knack for doing well at that track, and in thoses cars. He’s 2 for 3 in the 500, was 5th last year, and is leading in points. Meanwhile, he had 2 wins in 150-some Nascar starts.

  58. HtG Says:

    55. yeah, I really like to hear people who know what they’re talking about.

    Ya hear, Autoline? ;)

  59. Julian Says:

    Citroen Mehari!!!

  60. Kit Gerhart Says:

    55 It looks like JPM’s NASCAR record was even worse than I said. I looked it up, and he had two cup wins in 255 starts. He needs to stick with Indycar.