AD #1934 – Voice Recognition Systems Ranked, Citroen Concept Pioneers Acoustic Technology, Bye-Bye BMW Z4

August 30th, 2016 at 11:51am

Runtime: 8:29

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- VW Reorganization May Take Years
- Diesel VW Owners Opt for Cold, Hard Cash
- Citroen CXperience Concept
- Ford Fusion Sport’s Rotary Shifter
- Ranking Voice Recognition Systems
- BMW Ending Z4 Production
- 2017 Nissan Versa Starts at $12,825
- The Supercharger Goes Electric

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28 Comments to “AD #1934 – Voice Recognition Systems Ranked, Citroen Concept Pioneers Acoustic Technology, Bye-Bye BMW Z4”

  1. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Some people think I’m already crazy, so talking to my car is out of the question (don’t want to remove all doubt), plus they don’t seem to work so well with my voice; give me a button.

  2. C-TECH Says:

    The way the Versa is marketed by the dealers is that it is the cheapest new car you can buy with “damaged ” credit and almost nothing down. We have seen Mitsubishi do this (Mirage ), Dodge do this (Omni ), and Ford (Escort, Pinto ).

  3. C-TECH Says:

    @ #1 Waiting for voice recognition to understand what I want done when I say “D@mnit”.

  4. Brett Says:

    I took a trip Sunday from Daytona Beach down to Fern Park using Waze and it was a little like dating a psycho. “Turn left! Turn left! “Make a U-turn!”

    On another subject, it is a pet peeve of mine when folks modify the word “unique”. You might say “singularly unique” or “truly unique” to embellish, but “very unique” is like saying “uniquer” or “uniquest”. Something is unique or it is not. There is no shading of it.

    Sorry. I’ll get off my soapbox now.

  5. Bradley Says:

    I own a 2013 VW Jetta Sportswagen TDI. It is probably the nicest car I have owned. It isn’t perfect, but its quite nice. The unmatched power and MPG is what allowed me to buy it without even a test drive.

    The cars are tainted, and who knows what the ultimate resell value will be for a fixed or not-fixed car. So we are doing the buy-back.

    However, the overall experience of owning a VW in America is horrible in comparison to other brands. I found the dealers to be the worst. They simply didn’t have experienced staff with the brand or reflect that VW cares about them or me as a customer. It will be a long time, if ever I buy another VW. This was my first German car and the car was great, but the ownership experience even without Dieselgate was poor.

    I will miss the rumble of the diesel starting up, and the turning heads of people in parking garages as they realize this sexy wagon is clicking like a truck. Of course, the many smiles of fun the car provided while achieving 40+ mpg will be missed.

  6. Buzzed Says:

    I have a friend that came from Newfoundland and has a thick ” Newfy ” accent that Siri has no idea what to do with. Voice recognition stuff doesn’t really work for her.

  7. Dave Thompson Says:

    the nissan Micra is even cheaper than the Versa but only available in Canada which includes Newfoundland eh!

  8. Chuck Grenci Says:

    #5 Bradley

    If you love the vehicle then you just hang on to it until the trade-in value just doesn’t make any or much difference anymore. If it is just so/so then by all means take the money (buyout) and run (to another make/model). But, for sure, do what you have to do (or at least want to do). Just my two-cents.

  9. Bradley Says:


    Yea. Well my wife simply wants out. This is mostly fueled by her want to get AWD. Even though if it flurries within 100 miles, she won’t leave the house. :)

  10. Albemarle Says:

    No idea of their sales, but there has to be something extra appealing about inexpensive new cars. In Canada we can get a new Nissan Micra, Mits Mirage or Chevy Spark for under $10k, that’s $7,650 USD.

    These are really stripped models with std. transmissions, no air, manual windows, etc.

    I think these get the new buyer into the store and then when you add on the items that are standard on most cars, you’re several thousands higher.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    5, 8 I was wondering the same thing. If you like the car, why not just “run it out,” where resale value is negligible with any car.

    Also, what do you plan to replace the Sportwagon with? VW has about the only “affordable” wagons sold in the U.S., except for all of those tall wagons.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’m not surprised that the Z4 hasn’t sold well. It’s a nice cruiser, but the 4 cylinder version costs almost as much as a Boxster or Corvette, and the six does cost as much.

    The Zoyota replacement will be interesting.

  13. Bradley Says:


    I would be ok with running it into the ground, it would be my commuter car. My current car is a 2014 Corolla that gets 40+ mpg and was half-price, plus future maintenance is way cheaper on the Corolla. The 40k service on the VW is almost $700.00.

    We had to abandon owning a true wagon. The few options that are out there, just didn’t check all the boxes.

    So we just decided on a 2017 Subaru Outback Touring with the 2.5. At the moment the buy-back and purchase are planned for March. I may change that, we’ll see.

    My wife will not consider an Outback unless its a Touring. As the touring gets rid of the gigantic roof rails. Although functionally great, they are an eye-sore. In all other markets the low profile roof rails were always an option, but not until now in the USA.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 The Outback is a nice vehicle, if you want AWD. I liked it a lot better when you could get it as a Legacy wagon, but getting the Outback without the big roof rails helps a lot, unless you would actually use them. I wouldn’t want roof rails at all, because I would never use them.

  15. BobD Says:

    Does anyone know how the “buy back” price is determined. The articles I read said “pre-scandal” values, but how do they adjust for mileage? If you wait to see see what the “fix” is and you are accumulating more miles on the vehicle, will that lower your buy back price if you later decide to go that route? Or are the buy-back prices pre-determined on the model, options, and year, and you are now driving a car with zero depreciation until you turn it in? Has VW started buying the cars back, or are they just registering owners at this point? I wonder if VW will offer extra incentives to get current owners that are turning in their diesel cars to buy a new gas powered VW?

  16. FSTFWRD Says:

    @4 Brett
    Glad to hear I’m not the only one that can’t stand “very unique”. And it’s used by many people that should know better. It’s amazing how many people that don’t know the definition of “unique”
    Thanks for sharing your soapbox.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    How about “most uniquest”?

    4, 16 I’m with both of you on this.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 If the buyback price is already determined at some pre-scandal value, I’d just drive it, and drive it, and drive it until the last day the buyback is available. That could be a very good deal.

  19. Ziggy Says:

    Anybody know where the term “shooting brake” came from? Weird name.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Google “shooting brake origin.” There are several interesting hits, but maybe none definitive.

  21. Victor West Says:

    I crossed Iowa on I 80 today. Most of the truckers went with the traffic flow and obeyed speed limits, but an annoying number tried to pass everybody, exceeded the speed of the “flow” and the speed limits, and spent a lot of time in the left lane for no apparent reason. No wonder there is a call for speed limits on trucks. A few rogue drivers ruin things for others. Better enforcement by the Highway Patrols would help too.

  22. Bradley Says:


    The paperwork reads and calculates just like some the IRS made. Having you add a number to simply subtract again, etc.

    The website they give us does it automatically too. Basically the buyback will be within $4k what I paid in 2013.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 Will the buyback be the same, no matter how much you drive the car, and if you go 50 miles over without doing that 40K mile maintenance, are you still okay?

  24. Bradley Says:


    We are just now at 30k on it. We have been putting 10k on a year. At least what I saw from the website, when I entered a buyback at the last date in time and mileage of 60k-the buy-back was the same.

    If the decision was up to me, I would probably ride it out. But as the Marketing people know women ultimately make the car buying decision.

    The wagon is very near needing new tires, 6 months is about all they have left for optimum safety.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:


    Thanks for the info. Hopefully you will come out well with the buyback, and will like the Subaru.

    You won’t like the fuel economy of the Outback as well, but it will be much better for ice racing, with the AWD. More seriously on the Outback, it is a nice car. A friend in Indiana has one, and likes it, including the CVT.

  26. Bradley Says:


    Yea, we would prefer a Legacy wagon from Subaru. , but the Outback is a good choice. 10% of me is willing to give the 6 cylinder a go and forget about mpg.

  27. Ukendoit Says:

    Bradley, from what I’ve heard about Subaru,they should offer you the opposite of your dealer experiences with VW. I haven’t dealt with them myself, but I hear Subie is one of the best at customer experience and loyalty.

  28. RS Says:

    @4 Brett and 16FSTFRWD

    Can I add a couple of other English language peeves…

    If you LOWER a price, you put it on a shelf below. If you REDUCE a price, the buyer pays less.

    IMPACT is not a verb! You never impact anything, you AFFECT it. IMPACT is a noun, only a noun and never an action word.

    Now, I will step down too :-)