AD #1984 – Ferrari Says No to Pure EVs, Tesla Cancels Battery Swaps, How Trump Could Impact the Auto Industry

November 9th, 2016 at 12:04pm

Runtime: 7:59

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- Tesla Cancels Battery Swaps
- Audi’s Impressive Instrument Cluster
- Brazil Ready to Rebound
- Honda Reveals WR-V
- Ferrari Says No to EVs
- How Trump’s Win Could Impact the Auto Industry

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35 Comments to “AD #1984 – Ferrari Says No to Pure EVs, Tesla Cancels Battery Swaps, How Trump Could Impact the Auto Industry”

  1. Lex Says:

    I believe President Elect Trump is looking for “Fair” between the US and it’s NAFTA partners.
    He has told us that he wants to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US as one of his top priorities. If Americans do not have well paying jobs then it does not matter where a car or truck is built if the working class American can not pay for it.

  2. Chuck Grenci Says:

    To soon to tell on policy (President Trump); campaign rhetoric and policy can be two entirely different things. But I’m fairly confident that Trump’s pro-American (worker) stance will prevail.

  3. Lisk Says:

    Does anyone know how the tariffs on vehicles we ship to other countries compare to what we charge? I hear all kinds of numbers, but I haven’t been able to find any reliable facts. I do know that other counties (as do we) limit the physical number of cars that are allowed to enter. This is one of the reasons why there are so many transplants in the U.S..

  4. Kate McLeod Says:

    Let’s just say, Trump operates with minimal information and his comments fly off that orange ball like there is nothing at stake. Just our whole way of life. How many of those auto workers and auto executives you spoke to are white?

  5. Topper Says:

    John,
    Uncompetitive? I don’t follow. Emissions and free trade have stifled the auto industry for years. America needs the govt to get out of regulatory law making. And, as Trump says, unleash the power of business or capitalism. For me, I can’t wait for him to release them. The auto industry has been vexing over how to meet the upcoming CAFE standards. Just look at the technology the car industry is tinkering with, I.e. Stop-start, 10 speed transmissions, cylinder management, weight reduction, aluminum. Al, in the hopes that this will help them remain “competitive”. Let the states like CA figure it out. CA should not dictate their kooky ideas to the rest of the country. Drain the swamp.

  6. Joe Says:

    I agree with that manufacturing jobs need to return to the US but NAFTA agreements do not necessarily need to be scrapped. Free and FAIR trade is what keeps prices low and keeps more money in our pockets. I’m sure there is a happy medium there.
    Nice segment on Brazil Sean. Would like to see even more segments on the international auto markets.

  7. Lex Says:

    Correction on #1 “Fair Trade”

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    If Trump does even a tenth of what he has said he would do, we will be in a great depression. He wants a 35% tariff on all imports, from Mexican cars to nearly everything at Wal Mart. That would create a trade war to end all trade wars, and the effect of higher prices would far more than offset the jobs that might return to the U.S.

    There is little reason to think Trump will do as he said in the campaign, though. Most of what he said, while popular with half the voters, is totally impossible to do.

  9. Rick W Says:

    It is just to early to tell what President elect Trump might do. Let’s not speculate like the media does. We all know they are wrong most of the time.
    As has been said, rhetoric on the campaign trail rarely translates into reality.
    We have the next few months to see what might be said from Trump’s team before he is sworn in as President.

  10. gary susie Says:

    Does anyone want to live in China with their polution? Doing away with the EPA isn’t what people want. When you start removing regulations you bring back the problems that were the reason they were enacted in the first place. We all saw what happened in the 2000-2008 when we removed bank regulations. So ber careful what you wish for.

  11. Topper Says:

    America has been in wars before and this one we will not capitulate. The dooms day sayers have been around since the Druids. The American worker has suffered under NAFTA and GAT for too long. Listen to the voters. God bless the non college deplorables. The forgotten man has finally been heard. Trump has, so far, done the impossible.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Sean said “Trashing free trade and scrapping fuel economy regulations can sound good on the campaign trail. But it could also leave the American auto industry hopelessly uncompetitive on the global stage.”

    I agree completely. The U.S. industry is already uncompetitive, globally, because almost no one wants huge pickup trucks and SUV’s, except in America. If the fuel economy regs were scrapped, the American industry would have even fewer globally competitive products. In all likelihood, Ford and other companies would have to reverse course on using global platforms for many of their cars.

  13. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Oh the ‘doom and gloom’ about President Trump is ripe now isn’t it.How about this,give the man a chance. I can’t see where he can do more harm to our whole country then has been done already by the last two presidents.

    PS: the sky ain’t falling…

  14. BARRY RECTOR Says:

    John,

    And how will President Trump deal with the California Air Resources Board and all their tough regulations? Will automakers have 2 emission standards, one for CA and one for the rest of the country?

  15. Topper Says:

    America is exceptional. We are the greatest nation to ever have populated Gods green earth. If PU trucks and SUVs are our desire then it should be so and no foreign nation should ever expect America to follow their example. The rest of the world is eager to be Americanized, evidence the coming to America. The glut of oil on the market makes fuel economy a mute point, at this time. Editorials about uncompetivness are just that, editorials.

  16. Lisk Says:

    11) Actually a good many foreign countries would love to have our big pickups & SUVs, but the import policy keeps them out. When these do leave our shores, they are usually brought in is “gray market” vehicles to the super wealthy. No one is getting rich exporting/importing Fusions, 300s, or Impala. Send a Suburban over, and the profits are huge.

  17. Roger T Says:

    I think Trump could significantly slow emissions, crash and electrification progress in the US but automakers would still invest in these for other markets – remember the story in Latam where vehicles safety lack vs ours, due to lagging regulations. We’re actually leaders in these segments now and deregulation will slow it down progress going forward. Deregulation can on the other hand help accelerate progress on autonomous vehicles, if barriers are loosened.
    Not surprised with your feedback John on what you see socially, there are lots of inconsequential knuckleheads in the industry, who tend to be short sighted. I hope they are right this time around.

  18. Lisk Says:

    An interesting sideline to the Federal/CARB debate, if you order a Spark EV (2016) or Bolt, you still have to specify Federal or California emissions? Do their electric motors produce large quantities of ozone?

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 If very many people wanted the huge vehicles, GM and Ford would build them in Europe, Asia, and any other place a significant market existed.

  20. John McElroy Says:

    #3. The US does not limit the number of vehicles that can be imported into the country. During the Reagan Administration there was the Voluntary Restraint Agreement (VRA) that did limit the number of Japanese cars that could be imported. But the VRA expired a couple of decades ago.
    The US imposes a 2.5% tariff on imported cars and a 25% tariff on trucks (except for Canada and Mexico, which are part of NAFTA.) Other countries impose different levels of tariffs. The EU has a 10% import tax on cars, China has a 25% tariff on US imports.

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 There already are two standards, CARB and federal. Several states, in addition to California, use the CARB standards.

  22. John McElroy Says:

    #13. In the 1960′s California started implementing automotive emission standards before the federal government did. Because of that the Supreme Court ruled that California could continue to write its own emissions standards. So California could legally tell Trump to go pound sand. Of course, as President he could come up with other “persuasive” means to convince the state of his point of view.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #20 John, thanks for those details.

    Also, I suppose Trump, after he packs the courts, could get the rules changed to disallow CA from setting its own standards. If that happens, it might be time for CA to secede from the U.S. California NEEDS stricter emission regs in a number of areas, while Wyoming and North Dakota do not. It makes sense to have different emissions regulations in different places, though the car companies might rather have one set of regs.

    The thing I’d like to see, would be more commonality on all car regs, including emissions, safety, lighting, etc., between the U.S. and Western Europe. If that happened, we might have more choice of a type cars I like, smallish hatches and wagons.

  24. Ziggy Says:

    I think the real question is what does Mike Pence think of all this since Trump will most likely resign well before his four year term is completed. Trump is a RINO and his Democratic roots will start to show through soon after he takes office, at which point the Republican controlled Congress will turn against him and in frustration at getting nothing done Trump will resign and go back to making the Trump corporate organization “great again”. You heard it here first folks.

  25. Drew Says:

    Zingy, you took the words right out of my mouth – “What will Mike Pence do?”… not because the Donald will quit, but because the Donald is highly likely to do something impeachable in a nanosecond… errr… do many things impeachable.

  26. Rick W Says:

    @ Drew, could he, Trump do anything more impeachable than Bill Clinton actually got impeached for but refused to resign.
    If you remember he did it in the Oval Office and got caught but decided to ignore the will of the people.
    I think Trump has done s**t in his younger years as a civilian that are despicable but I think he will honor the office at 70 years old.
    I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Pence is best known as a culture warrior in Indiana, and nationally, costing the state millions in lost business and cancelled projects. If he becomes pres, it is a sure thing that he would appoint hard right social warriors as judges, but beyond that, it’s less sure.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 Bill C. was impeached for lying about consensual sex, while Trump lies about nearly everything, and had a genuinely fraudulent “university” which was criminal by any reasonable standard. Sorry, we need to keep politics off of this forum. I’ll try to refrain more.

    Yep, we will need to wait and see what Trump does as pres.

  29. Victor West Says:

    Kit has become the smartest “kid” on the forum.

  30. Len Simpson Says:

    Topper , the swamp tide is rising rapidly.

  31. Peter Egan Says:

    Agree with John. NAFTA has put “great” back into the “great American car industry”. Look what trade has done for Hollywood. Movies get made all over the world, but ‘Hollywood’ (thus America) gets a cut from all of them via its financing and ancillary activities.

    The current trade rules have made Detroit the leading auto capital in the world. Now you get to lead the world into automation where the jobs are in automating, and less in actual production. Continue to be THE leader and stay “great”.

  32. GMwolf Says:

    First- Lets talk of Trump.
    This is a business man. If you look at his past you will find he has always surrounded himself with people well trained in such areas. This has allowed him to bounce thoughts and ideas across said experts that will be able to explain the ups and downs of such ideas. I don’t see any reason that he wont do the same as president. That is in large what made him so successful in business and I believe what gives him the advantage now.

    Second- regulations
    EPA, CARB, Cali and the like. He could do many things but to remove all will not serve anyone’s interest. What would likely help most is simplification. We need to stream line all these agencies into one, that includes safety and fuel economy.
    One standard that means getting states involvement on setting standards in return they don’t set their own at state level. Eventually attempting to move outward to world standard that in with all countries debate to set levels. It help the auto makers in so many ways that they can save cost and time when hitting targets.

    Third- World trade or tariff
    Yes we need to improve in this area but also we need to be fair. Things like the chicken tax need to be addressed. Fair is even. We tax(tariff) all at same rate.
    I’ll just say this. I work in a industry that has brands that are US based and Foreign. When ordering parts we found the foreign based companies ship to Mexico then truck in the part’s because its cheaper then paying a tariff from the products home country.

    That’s my opinion. Take it for what it’s worth.

    Gmwolf

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I just hope Trump realizes that his model of business “success,” involving multiple bankruptcies, would not be such a good thing for the U.S. government. His proposals involve spending more money on the military, and even on infrastructure, along with huge taxs cut for the wealthy. That doesn’t sound like good business practice to me.

  34. BobD Says:

    One approach that I’ve heard Trump push are “Public-Private Partnerships” for financing infrastructure (road) projects. This appears to be sourced from his VP, Mike Pence, who has pushed this as a way to finance projects when you have no way of paying for them. This matches Trump OPM (Other People’s Money) approach of doing projects. Pence’s first PPP project is the construction of a 21-mile section I-69. It is now more than a year behind schedule and the private partner is near collapse, and Indiana will likely be stuck in paying off the bonds, and also having to pay to finish the project. Let’s hope this is not the way Trump hopes to “make America great again”.

  35. Topper Says:

    It’s already started and Trump did not have to lift a finger. Mexico and Canada wants to change. Mexico is willing to rework NAFTA very shortly after Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he is willing to renegotiate NAFTA. After Trump became President-Elect, Mexico’s Foreign Relations Minister Claudia Ruiz Massieu said her country was willing to “modernize” the North American Free Trade Agreement. Yet, GM just announced lay offs of 2000 workers from Lordstown and Lansing.