AD #2027 – CARB Fires a Warning Shot, European Sales Hit 9-Year High, Reconfiguring Interiors for Autonomy

January 19th, 2017 at 11:48am

Runtime: 7:21

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- CARB Could Fight Trump Administration
- VW Forms EV Joint Venture in China
- Ford Says Big Shift Toward Electrics Coming
- Dodge Demon to Drop 200 lbs. From Hellcat
- Coker Reproduces Classic Muscle Car Tires
- European Sales Hit 9-Year High
- Yanfeng Develops Reconfigurable Interior for Autonomy

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19 Comments to “AD #2027 – CARB Fires a Warning Shot, European Sales Hit 9-Year High, Reconfiguring Interiors for Autonomy”

  1. David Sprowl Says:

    I can hardly wait to drive a modified golf cart on the open road. better yet and autonomous golf cart on the course.

  2. XA351GT Says:

    What global increase in demand for EVS? They sit on lots even with huge incentives. Unless the infrastructure is set up on the scale as Gas for ICE it’s never going to happen IMO. You can continue to try and force people to buy them ,but unless there is a cap on the production of ICE vehicles I just don’t see EVs ever selling in the numbers he is talking about. Also unless major cost savings are found how long will they stay in business losing money on every one they sell? Because right now that is all I hear about is how they losing big bucks on every car built.

  3. John McElroy Says:

    XA, what Bill Ford is looking at is that sales of EVs and plug-ins are soaring in China. There were 300,000 of them sold last year, twice the 150,000 that were sold in the US. EVs and PHEVs were the fastest growing segment in the American market last year, up 30%. You’re right, no one is making money on these things right now. But in 5 to 10 years sales could be significant.

  4. GM Veteran Says:

    The re-configurable interior presented by Yanfeng looks like it works exactly the same way as the concept Chrysler introduced at CES. I guess there are only so many ways you can configure an interior and still comply with safety regulations.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    @John McElroy, is Bill Ford predicting that pure EV’s will outsell gas cars globally within 15 years, or does he mean pure EV’s plus plug-in hybrids, plus regular hybrids will outsell gas vehicles? If he is predicting pure EV’s, I would be very surprised.

    I’ve been considering a Prius Prime or Chevy Volt as an eventual replacement for my 2010 Prius. I may want to buy the new car sooner, rather than later, since the new regime is likely to take away the tax credit for plug-in hybrids.

  6. Lisk Says:

    Even if the range and recharging issues for EVs are solved in the near future, I still don’t like the idea of the battery degradation that they have. Pretty much, an ICE engined car will have the same range from the day one until it’s worn out. The EV will have been through a couple of $5-15,000 batteries by then. I just don’t see the economics in owning an EV.

  7. Roger Blose Says:

    Just like my three year old cell phone, the battery life continues to fall short every day. How many cycles can an EV go through before the battery needs to be replaced at great expense? The other day in a snow storm, I followed a Tesla who had a snow covered rear window. I finally realized that the owner was trying to make it home before he lost all power. I bet he must have had the lights, electric heater and front defrost, wipers, radio and more stuff killing his range. The rear electric defrost causes a huge drain of electricity. When you make it home, the car is useless for several hours while it recharges.

  8. Lex Says:

    CARB (California Air Resources Board) might want to work with the New Administration rather than living in a land of make believe like their friends in Hollywood. The last time I looked there were 49 other States and the District of Columbia in our imperfect Union. Where was CARB when those Saturn EV1s were being crushed? They could not beat General Motors now they want to take on the New President and the Federal Government? CARB needs to ask the Trump Administration which regulations it is looking to ease up on? If CARB was so powerful than why is Elon Musk / Tesla’s Giga Factory in Nevada?
    I agree with Bill Ford, EVs will one day be a vast majority of vehicles sold around the world.
    We need to all work together local, state and federal governments with industry and others to improve our failing infrastructure especially when it comes to power generation and transmission throughout the US power grid. Everyone wants cleaner air and water. All eyes will be on the New Administration to fulfill it “Making America Great Again” campaign theme!

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    California has reason to want stricter air quality standards than most other parts of the U.S. Between the topography, and the population density of many parts of CA, most of the U.S. cities with the worst air quality are there, even with their stricter rules. There are some other states that follow CARB’s lead, regarding auto emissions.

    We’ll see how things sort out, but Trump seems to want to divide the country as much as possible, with many of his appointees, like anti environment extremist Scott Pruitt to head the EPA.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 I found that just the cabin heater of a Tesla S uses 6 kW, probably enough power to run the car at 30 mph. Then you add other accessories, and EV’s lose huge amounts of range in cold weather.

    If you drive an EV where is is cold, it would be good to get one with twice the “normal conditions” range you need, if you want to stay warm when driving it in cold weather.

  11. G.A.Branigan Says:

    And then there is the folks that live out in the country.Just how fast do you think an electric charging infrastructure will be set up?

    I know that electric vehicles will eventually replace all ICE,but it won’t be in my lifetime.

  12. Roger T Says:

    #7 – google battery life stats for Chevy Volts, you´ll be surprised that there are Volts with 300k miles out there with zero battery degradation. Chevy claims they have seen no evidence of degradation on any of the over 100,000 Volts in the wild. Different story for Leaf, e-VWs and other air cooled batteries.
    It seems silly for the US to be debating CARB rules vs EPA, reversal of direction will unavoidably get the US behind everyone else on this, and I agree as charge points proliferate and long range electric vehicles become cheaper this is an irreversible change coming our way. Most of us who will be in the market for a new vehicle will be looking an electric car in 15 years is my prediction.

  13. Duke Says:

    #12 Yep, that is what I have heard too. I know a fella that bought one when they came out (Volt). He loves it and has not experienced any degradation whatsoever. He doesn’t have 300k miles on it but he has put a lot miles on it.

    There is very little doubt in my mind that the price of oil will be going up to profitable (for the oil companies) very soon and that will make availability of electrified vehicle important – and demand grow significantly. Now that with Europe’s love affair with diesels appears to be over, I suspect that their demand will also grow rapidly.

    And I think that your last sentence Roger is spot-on. Yeah, I know . . . change is a bitch, but some of us that may be getting on in years might just be thankful that autonomous vehicles are on the way.

  14. Kevin Anderson Says:

    Two things I’d like to get your comments on:
    1. I prefer small cars because they are easier to drive in the city. When autonomous cars are common, won’t everyone want F-250 sized cars to get all that room? 2. Gas taxes are a huge tax revenue generator, especially in Europe. When EVs are common, where is that tax revenue going to come from? Is Europe ready for $1000/year EV licensing?

  15. W L Simpson Says:

    every time the EV subject arises , I ask the same question—-Why not a minimal constant duty eng/generator , minimal batts. KISS !!

    my working lifetime was spent in the world of cars 1945-1995 . just E-bayed my last project–
    80 MGB ragtop.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    In Indiana, it now costs almost $600 to register a new car costing over $42,500.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 As I’ve said here many times before, a series hybrid as you describe would be a GAS HOG. That’s why no one makes cars that way.

  18. Roger T Says:

    #13 & #16 – This is exactly what the Chevy Volt does. The problem with this idea is that you first convert energy from Gasoline to mechanical, then you convert from mechanical (engine) to electrical, then you lose a little in the storage (both in and out) to finally transform that electricity into motion. In a gas engine connected directly to wheels, you skip all losses associated with the energy conversions. The Chevy Volt gets 35 – 40 MPG in gas extended range, where an equivalent size gas only vehicle would get 40 – 45 MPG. The way the Prius works is more efficient than Chevy Volt and a gas only car, except Volt drivers get most of their mileage in electric only mode (most efficient of all energy conversion methods)

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 The Volt has a direct connection from the ICE to the wheels at highway speeds, which helps mpg. Still, a Prius, regular or plug-in does better on gas. A Volt is best for people who will do a lot of their driving on plug-in power.