AD #2162 – Ford Police Interceptor Exhaust Issues, How Tesla’s Stock Defies Gravity, Roush’s Involvement in Waymo’s Car

August 4th, 2017 at 11:46am

Runtime: 7:18

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- Ford Police Interceptor Exhaust Issues
- Toyota and Mazda To Build New Plant in U.S.
- Hyundai Prices the Elantra GT
- Elon Changes His Mind on Model Y
- How Tesla’s Stock Defies Gravity
- Asia-Pacific’s Favorite Truck Is the Ford Ranger
- Roush’s Involvement in Waymo’s Car 

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15 Comments to “AD #2162 – Ford Police Interceptor Exhaust Issues, How Tesla’s Stock Defies Gravity, Roush’s Involvement in Waymo’s Car”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    That Elantra GT looks pretty nice, an actual wagon, or hatchback, with no lift kit and tall roof to compromise efficiency and handling. I hope it sells well.

  2. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Kudos to Ford for stepping up on its Police Interceptor even if not their fault; the P.R. is worth whatever it takes to make a fix.

    Airplanes defy gravity too (but only temporarily); color me not yet convinced. I think the Model 3 will be the telling tale; it needs to deliver (big time).

    The Asian-Pacific Ford Ranger is quite a nice looking truck (and I’m a well known GM/Chevy guy); bring it over (I know its coming back to America soon) and let the Colorado/Ranger wars resume.

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Tesla has a cult-like following, including the stock.

    Elon expects to be producing 5000 Model 3′s a week by the end of the year. I wish him luck. Even a company like Toyota would have a very hard time ramping a new product from 0 to 250K annual rate in 6 months.

  4. Gene E Says:

    It seems strange to me that the Police Interceptor is the only vehicle with equipment added after production to have this exhaust problem.

    I suspect that the cracking manifolds will be quietly replaced as soon as a suitable remedy is manufactured.

  5. Buzzerd Says:

    It seems like you can sell anything at all truckish in NA so I don’t understand why Ford doesn’t bring in the Ranger, Volkswagen their truck thing and Mercedes their new truck.

  6. Ziggy Says:

    I think it is a bit presumptuous to make the statement “And know (sic) doubt it was President Trump’s threats that convinced them to build it in the United States, instead of in Mexico.” Let’s stick to the facts and not give credit where it might not be warranted, the great orange leader already does that enough himself.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    5 I suspect Ford has been a little slow in selling the Ranger, because it might take sales from the more profitable F series. As far as VW, Merc, and others, why not sell them? They wouldn’t be competing with themselves.

    Wasn’t KIA talking about selling a pickup in the US years ago? Does anyone know what happened with that?

  8. John Faulkner Says:

    Guessing you have not been paying attention to how World leaders are not respecting President Trump’s threats, or how even Ford fired Mark Fields, partially over his capitulation to Trump. Your statement that the Mazda/Toyota joint venture manufacturing plant, being located in the United States, is due to Trump’s threats is not only wrong, but unless you have some secret and confidential information, is pure conjecture and opinion. If you want to comment on Trump do so with facts, not partisan politics.

  9. G.A.Branigan Says:

    @ #8: Exactly…

  10. Anthony Parisio Says:

    Your report on Tesla’s top line is the first time I heard Autoline report insightfully on Tesla. It took a long time for Autoline to realize what investors have known all along. Losses are not real losses if they add to expansion of top line and gross profit growth. This is how all start ups big or small become a viable business. Bottom line profit will grow as top line grows and expansion shrinks. This happen in the maturing if a well run company. Tesla is well run.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    We should know a lot more about Tesla in six months, when we know how Model 3 ramp up is going. If they make the 5000/week goal, I will be impressed.

    https://electrek.co/2017/07/03/tesla-model-3-production-ramp-up/

  12. joe Says:

    The only explanation I can come up with is to compare Tesla as cult-like. Elon Musk being the cult leader and his followers being the consumers. When Elon spills his BS, all his followers say, “yes master”. I think that’s a fair comparison. Tesla stocks being over 300 a share is insane. This can not last forever and I expect the stock will come crashing like stocks did in the Great Depression era.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Off topic….

    I don’t know how long it has been on the web site, but the definitive “car as an appliance” data is now on the CR web site for the Hyundai Ioniq hybrid, to compare with the Prius. In gas mileage and acceleration, the Ioniq and Prius are nearly identical. Both delivered 52 mpg “overall” gas mileage, but the Hyundai was marginally quicker, 9.9 seconds 0-60, vs 10.3 for the Prius. The Prius stopped significantly better, and handled a little better.

    The bottom line is this. As I’d thought all along, Hyundai is using complexity for complexity’s sake, with their 6-speed DCT, while the Prius uses a power splitter setup with no gear changing, and no friction elements in the powertrain. Also, not surprisingly, CR found that the Ioniq had a little delay on launch, and behaved less than ideally at parking lot speeds. I guess people who just want a little jerkiness in their drivetrain would prefer the Hyundai, but I still like the mechanically simple, smooth setup that Toyota and Ford use for their hybrids.

  14. Bob Wilson Says:

    Hey John,

    Recycling of LiON batteries needs some failed batteries, the feedstock, but the dang things are not breaking fast enough. But if you’ll point me to the LiON battery dump, the cobalt and copper would be excellent scrap.

    Based on the Prius NiMH experience, it is more likely we’ll see rebuilding before scrapping whole packs. Of course NiMH recycling is well established for the nickel and rare earths. We may see ‘power wall’ applications before the scrap metal dealers get enough LiON batteries to mine the metals.

    #13 – The Ioniq was not for sale or even test drives when I bought our Prius Prime. But no one is comparing the standard and options with both the Prius, Ioniq and Volt.. For example, dynamic cruise control and collision avoidance is standard on all Prius (i.e., TSS-P) including the Prime but the optional equivalent in the Ioniq and Volt costs an extra $1,000 for specific trims, expensive trims.

    BTW, I really appreciated the radar based, dynamic cruise control when driving at Tennessee Interstate speeds through 100 miles of fog. It was in effect, instrument driving at high speeds through the fog.

    In May, I test drove an Ioniq Blue and it was a good first effort like the 2001-03 Prius was compared the 2017 Prius and Prius Prime. Hyundai still has a lot of tweaking to do before it becomes a Prius quality hybrid. Still, folks who like the feels of a stepped transmission might be happier.

    Bob Wilson, Huntsville AL

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #14 – Thanks for the report. I plan to drive an Ioniq to see what it is like. I doubt if it will change my mind, though. I like the Prius powertrain, and would probably like something similar in my Corvette, scaled up about 2.5x.

    Still, H/K have something different, a decent hybrid with a stepped transmission, for those who want that.