AD #2202 – 2018 Accord First Impressions, Cummins & Achates Developing Military Engine, VW’s Plan to Win Back Trust

October 2nd, 2017 at 9:00am

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- Volkswagen’s Plan to Win Back Trust
- Cummins & Achates Developing Military Engine
- 2018 Honda Accord Impressions
- Customers Feedback on New VW Tiguan

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18 Comments to “AD #2202 – 2018 Accord First Impressions, Cummins & Achates Developing Military Engine, VW’s Plan to Win Back Trust”

  1. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I think it will be interesting to see how the new ACHATES & CUMMINS engine does; up until now it has been rhetoric that it was coming sometime in the future. Hope it does what it has been touted to do; save fuel/space and be top-notch reliable.

    I like the new Accord more than the new Camry, but alas, an American car company buyer, if I’d have to pick, it would be a Malibu (or maybe that new Buick Regal coming in ’18).

  2. Bradley Says:

    6 year warranty with maintenance included will help VW a lot. Before selling back our TDI, I asked what the 40k service interval typically costs. It was the better part of $700. I asked what was involved and the service manager simply hand waved.

    The new warranty will help, but with the 3 VW dealers I had my TDI serviced at, they all had the same “hand waving” mindset. They really didn’t know much or what to create a positive relationship.

  3. Bradley Says:

    “or what” should be “or want”

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I wish VW luck at going mainstream in the U.S. I’ve had VW’s fairly recently, but only because I like cars that are “different” from most Americans want. My VW’s were a 1998 GTi VR6 and a Jetta TDI wagon. If I wanted a mainstream crossover or sedan, it wouldn’t be a VW.

    It’s nice that Honda will still sell manual transmissions in the new Accord, but they need a hatchback or wagon. I am intrigued by BMW’s 4 series “Gran Coupe,” and might consider splurging on one to replace my 8 year old Mini, but there is one major issue, other than price. That BMW “ultimate driving machine” is not available with a manual in the U.S. That’s too bad, because the car proves that a car can be a utilitarian hatchback, and be attractive.

  5. Buzzerd Says:

    Chuck- would you consider a Fusion? Just curious.

  6. Drew Says:

    Sean, I have been keenly watching Honda for 40 years. While this generation Accord may be a space and ride quality improvement over prior Accords, I find other Accords to be much more tastefully styled on the outside. Like the over-wrought Civic, I completely dislike the side DLO. Like the over-wrought Civic, I also dislike the C-shaped taillamps (as I dislike them on the Buick LaCrosse). And the brow of the front grille borrows too much of its style from a beluga whale.

    So, there you have it. Not everyone can agree with a subjective attribute like styling. As such, I’d recommend staying away from superlative statements like “probably the most handsomely styled Accord ever”.

  7. GM Veteran Says:

    I just reviewed the press release from VW and it does not say that maintenance is included. That would make a big difference in cost of ownership, but it would cost so much that I was skeptical they would throw that in.

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    #7 My guess is they will do like GM and others have done with offering free maintenance for the first 2/years which on most modern engines is only 2 free oil changes. Not really a big expense @ $100 but sounds good to a buyer. Plus that helps to insure those 2 yr leases are maintained.

  9. Chuck Grenci Says:

    #5 Buzzard, alas, I am a GM monger; the Fusion is okay, and again being an American car buyer, would buy the Fusion before the others.

  10. Drew Says:

    Sorry Chuck. As nice as the new Bu’s ride and space are,,. I just can’t swallow the serendipity of the body side sculpting or the jack o’lantern daytime driving lamps.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Since VW plans to go more “mainstream,” do they plan to expand their sparse dealer U.S network?

  12. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Yeah, ’18 GS Regal; yeah baby: http://www.buick.com/regal-mid-size-luxury-hatchback-sedan/index.html#/index

    That’s why they make so many different looking vehicles (and the fronts seem to be the most different as the sides have all kind of become similar).

  13. Norm T Says:

    The Malibu 2.0T pretty has the Accord V6 beat in every metric including better braking, quieter, better handling and better fuel economy. This according to Motor Trend test data. The new 2.0T Accord faster in acceleration but has almost one mph faster trap speed in the 1/4 mile. Go to 6 minutes to see the turbo-4 pull on the V6 at any speed.

    https://youtu.be/spIczRuboEc

    The Regal Sportback at $29,999 is compelling as you can AWD and Buick has a better warranty.

  14. Lambo2015 Says:

    Kit Maybe VW can buy some of the 47 Chrysler dealerships that are planned to be closed in Ohio alone.

  15. Drew Says:

    @14 – OEMs generally are not in the business of buying dealerships. Rather, OEMs recruit and sign business agreements with independent businessmen to become representatives of the OEM’s brand. That businessman owns the dealership, operated within OEM-agreed practices.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 If VW really wants to go mainstream, they should look into some of those dealerships.

    The Regal Sportback looks interesting. I suppose it will be automatic only, though.

  17. BobD Says:

    VW claims to have the best bumper-to-bumper 6 year/72k warranty, but I’d still prefer the Hyundai/Kia 10 year/100k powertrain with a 5 year/50k bumper-to-bumper. GM had a longer warranty for a while and determined the marketing value was not worth the extra up-front costs. As others have said, if VW is to make a bigger impact in the US, they are going to have to expand their dealer network beyond their current niche dealers.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It is especially inportant to have a dealer nearby, if you are likely to use your warranty a lot, as seems the case with VW.