AD #2290 – BMW Reveals the New X4, Mercedes Updates the C-Class, Magna Develops New Kind of Radar

February 14th, 2018 at 11:41am

Runtime: 8:37

0:27 China Boosts EV Incentives
0:54 Tesla Struggles with Chinese Factory
1:34 BMW Reveals the New X4
2:29 Mercedes Updates the C-Class
3:36 New Sensor Monitors Brain Activity
4:41 Magna Develops New Kind of Radar
6:36 Benchmarking the Tesla Model 3

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22 Comments to “AD #2290 – BMW Reveals the New X4, Mercedes Updates the C-Class, Magna Develops New Kind of Radar”

  1. Terry Quinn Says:

    X4. Still butt ugly from the front. (Just my opinion).

  2. Kit Gerhart Says:

    So China has a Chicken Tax on Teslas, like the U.S. has on trucks. Maybe the two countries could work out a “repeal trade,” and Americans could get some cheap, small pickups. No, I’m not holding my breath on that happening.

  3. omegatalon Says:

    Elon Musk is ripping his hair out and probably wanting to rip the hair off Sandi Munro’s head; I can’t wait until Munro is finished and does a Autoline After Hours special on the Tesla Model 3.. as one has to wonder what Munro will find once he starts tearing the car apart.

  4. Len Simpson Says:

    model 3 has been in trouble from the beginning , Musk must have farmed it out to a Chinese factory , specially the batwings

  5. Lambo2015 Says:

    The import tax or chicken tax on vehicles going into China I dont have as much a problem as the forced partnership. Basically what China is saying is. “Hey come build cars here but also teach us how and share your technology and experience so in a few years we can build copies of your stuff at a price you cannot compete with”.. Sounds like a great plan for them and we Americans will continue to sell out for the quick buck now and in a few years when they have a good understanding how to build a good quality car they will undercut our market so bad and we will wonder how come the US manufacturers are going belly up. It will be because the knock off Chinese Tesla 3 will sell for 20k. IMO

  6. Lambo2015 Says:

    Great! so now cars are going to have sensors in the headrest to detect distraction? So when the female in the passenger seat asks, “are you listening to me”? and you respond with the typical, “of course I am”. The car is going to call you out.. No no no..

  7. Lisk Says:

    I’m not sure why Tesla should seem so surprised with the need need to find a local domestic partner to set up shop there. Since they are already selling cars there. they have to have a similar agreement with who distributes their cars now. This is a common practice in Asian countries. This could work out to Tesla’s advantage when they loose a billion or so dollars over there…the partner could share in the loss!

    This also is not a “chicken” tax, it’s more of a protectionist tax; if you don’t build here, it’s gonna cost you.

    I’ll pass on a car that can read my brain waves, thanks for the offer, but, nope.

  8. Bob Wilson Says:

    The Magna radar sounds a lot like a phase-array, radar antenna. These are able to rapidly scan their field of view and provide high resolution data much like the laser scanners. Only they don’t have moving parts mounted on the car roof. This is what CNET reports, “It receives the signals back on a silicon receptor disc that is divided by software into 192 virtual receivers.”

    I’m happy to see the Munro getting into the mechanical parts and driving dynamics. I’m curious if there might be a Web or PDF version of this study that hopefully includes acceleration and power graphs?

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 It reminded me of the “chicken tax” because it is the same 25%, and is, basically, a protectionist tax, like the U.S. tax on light trucks.

    5 A Chinese “knock off” of the Tesla 3 might well have better quality than the original, because the Chinese have paid attention to what the major car companies of the world have learned about manufacturing, over the last 100 years.

    Regarding Sandy Munro’s entry today, the one I would have expected from the start, was the comment about wind noise. That is exactly what I would expect in an “under developed” car. Still, if the Model 3 is reasonably reliable, the customers will probably be happy, when they get their cars. Most of the cars will be used for commuting, and not for hours at 80 mph on the interstate, and the wind noise shouldn’t be a major issue.

  10. Ctech Says:

    I don’t know if I want my car monitoring my brain. The are enough competing voices there.

  11. Chuck Grenci Says:

    China Boosts EV Incentives: coal fired power plants, equals, net zero (or maybe worse). Just because they rule (China’s leadership), doesn’t make them right; first things first, go natural (or at least less/non polluting) before pushing ‘electrics’. And the same should go for the rest of the world.

  12. Wim van Acker Says:

    @11 While I agree with you in principle, we have to face China’s reality: decades’ long 8% annual GDP growth (and over proportional electrical power demand growth), with 1.2 billion people living in a country of which 58% of the surface area is mountain and 28% is desert, they could not build enough solar and wind power to “go natural”, as you call it.

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    On bench-marking the Tesla some actual sound decibel levels would be nice to see how it compares to other BEVs. I’m sure its exceptionally lower than ICE cars. but maybe not at highway speeds.
    Although I agree with Kit that most will probably be used for local commuting that doesn’t exclude the highway (even if its short distances) and I would say most people can get very annoyed when their phone call connected thru the car is too loud to continue a conversation.
    Gotta go I’m getting on the highway..Bye!

  14. buzzerd Says:

    Sensors in the head rests! I knew it! The government is reading my thoughts, where’s my foil hat…

  15. MikeG Says:

    The guys on The Grand Tour said that Tesla sued them for their review of one of their cars. I wonder if Monroe & Associates is on their radar?

  16. Bob Wilson Says:

    A publication called “Automobile” gave the Model 3 their “2018 Design of the Year: Model 3″ award. They also said, “. . . the Model 3s on the road now have been cobbled up with a lot of handwork making up for deficient manufacturing experience and skills. . . .”

    As for suing Clarkson and company, it appears their full review of the Tesla Model X was significantly improved:

  17. RickW Says:

    @#8 Bob Wilson,
    I would assume the report that Monroe and Associates compile, in it’s completed form, will be for sale and the price is more than you or I would be willing to pay.
    Considering all the manhours and money spent to complete the report, it can’t be offered for free to us little people.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 The “cobbled up with a lot of handwork” confirms what Mr. Monro has found. If you want a car as an appliance, don’t buy a Tesla. If you want something different, and are willing to take some chance, a Model 3 might be your thing, if you have a place to plug it in.

  19. Earl Says:

    A Tesla that sells for $105,000 in the U S sells for close to that $132,000 in Canada. And believe it or not there’s a few Canadian’s shelling out big bucks to own a Tesla.

  20. Bob Wilson Says:

    As owner of a first model year car, three of them, I am adult enough to realize I am part of the last Integration and Test team. It is what I pay to get cutting-edge technology.

    Consumer Reports correctly points out that if you want a problem free car, buy the last model year. Having owned two last model year cars, I know it is true.

    Application of last model year build standards to first model year cars suggests willful ignoring the new technology.

  21. Lambo2015 Says:

    #20 Bob I would agree that many changes will occur on a new vehicle even after it is salable. As development time continues to get reduced it leaves less time to find all the issues. Thats great you accept the issues you’ll have with a first model car but you shouldn’t have to. I will say that the last model car may be the least trouble but it often times also gets cheapened up. If a vehicle is in production for a few years the best way to increase profit it to reduce cost and they start to look at where they can take out weight and cost and those are not always for a better quality car. Or in some cases like the last gen, Ford Thunderbird. They just couldn’t seem to build a quality vehicle even years into production.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I usually buy “middle” model year cars. I learned a lesson after buying a first year GM J car. It was an ’82 J2000, the only car I’ve had that was truly a “lemon.”