AD #2553 – Tesla Introduces the Model Y, RNG Could Save The Piston Engine, New Lime Green Ford Mustang

March 15th, 2019 at 11:41am

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Runtime: 6:47

0:07 Tesla Introduces the Model Y
1:27 Toyota Invests More in The U.S.
1:56 BMW & Daimler Could Partner on EVs Too
2:40 VW Faces More Diesel Punishment
3:22 RNG Could Save The Piston Engine
4:31 Mahindra Wants to Sell Pass. Van in U.S.
5:12 Ford Vans Get More Sporty
5:44 New Lime Green Ford Mustang

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48 Comments to “AD #2553 – Tesla Introduces the Model Y, RNG Could Save The Piston Engine, New Lime Green Ford Mustang”

  1. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Cool color for the Mustang (New Lime Green); reminds me of the Camaro’s Synergy Green (the same sort of thing, only different). These variants (color) will perhaps be the collectables of the future but they will be beyond my days so I’ll just have to enjoy them in the present.

  2. Lex Says:

    Talking about colors, I wish Jeep would bring back the “True Blue” or offer the “Jazz Blue” on the Grand Cherokee with the saddle brown leather interior at the “Limited” trim level and up. This color combination looks “rich”, especially with the saddle brown leather interior. Black color interiors do not “Pop” and Beige / Parchment are too hard to keep clean and bright. Maybe this would be a good discussion on AAH about interior and exterior color combinations and who decided what is best.

  3. Lex Says:

    Natural Gas from Garbage, Who would have Thunk!
    This has been available for more than 50 years.
    Who woke up and smelled the garbage odor and figured out there must be some “Natural Gas” in that smell! It is a free by-product of the entire Waste Management Industry.

  4. MJB Says:

    Ford Transit’s with racing stripes? C’mon! They’re utilitarian, delivery trucks for crying out loud!

    I had to laugh when I saw the promotional image of them on a wet track racing for pole position through that hairpin corner. :)

    “Hey look ma, a toaster with racing stripes!” ;)

  5. Larry D. Says:

    My favorite Tesla is the Model S (and the Rare roadster), then the 3, then the X. The Y is an affordable X, essentially. I expect it to do even better (if this is possible) than the Model 3 in the Crossover-hungry US market especially.

    These cars are really impressive and quite reasonably priced for what they offer.

    In contrast, my hopes for VW coming up with a serious Tesla rival were dashed yesterday when they announced that its base model will have a lousy range of a mere 124 miles (in Favorable Weather, which means less than 100 in the winter!). They plan to sell this obsolete underperformer for $23k minimum (that sounds like 20,000 Euros). Maybe they will buy them in Europe, but over here their sales will be insignificant.

  6. Brett Cammack Says:

    Build a Tesla Y with a wagon back profile and I’ll think about buying one.

  7. ChuckGrenci Says:

    #3 Yeah, garbage to fuel has been around for a while though it does sound positive for automotive.
    #4 Transit Sport, yeah, why?

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sometimes fantasy becomes reality. There was car in 1985 that used a plutonium-fueled nuclear reactor and that was replaced with a Mr. Fusion generator that uses garbage as fuel.

    Although the Mr. Fusion unit provides the required power for the time machine, the DeLorean was still powered by an internal combustion engine for propulsion. So the ICE isn’t dying anytime soon.

  9. BobD Says:

    3 – I agree this is odd that this is just now becoming “news”. Lot’s of land fields have been recovering methane for years (typically sold to adjacent businesses), as have some animal waste treatment plants. While this is a good “green” technology, the amount of bio-fuel that can be recovered from these land fields is tiny. Perhaps recovery from manure is a larger number, but also more expensive as it takes a lot more processing. I think this has more to do with “government credits” than free-market justifications.

  10. Lambo2015 Says:

    #4 Yeah I saw that and chuckled. Why not though, it makes as much sense as Dodge offering an R/T journey. Is there an underground minivan race series I’m not aware of?

  11. Lambo2015 Says:

    Not saying the Model Y isn’t a good looking vehicle but it looks like the model 3. It would be good to see a picture of them side by side to see the dimensional differences.
    Also I wish they did a better job of integrating the touch screen into the dash. It looks like an aftermarket add on.

  12. Brett Cammack Says:

    4
    The other irony is that racing stripes came about to give drivers a reference to assess the cornering slip angles they were generating back in the days of bias ply tires. Nowadays, with radial tires, slip angles are negligible-to-imperceptible.

    Maybe NASCAR will latch onto this trend and we can have toaster racing. Lots of room for advertising signage.

    They could even adopt a variation of P.J. O’Rourke’s idea which was to elevate interest by having the back packed with either whatever the sponsor sold or all the driver’s most valuable possessions.

  13. Larry D. Says:

    11 the Y is 10% bigger. Most of it in height.

  14. Larry D. Says:

    Musk calls the Model X and now the Y a crossover, or even an SU, but the photos clearly show they are not. They are far more elegant than any SUV.

    More importantly, they do not have the ground clearance that SUVs typically have, so you really cannot take them off road as you can a Jeep, esp a Wrangler.

    The X and Y look like they have the same low clearance as the S and 3.

    They have their own shape. Not SUV, not Crossover, Not Sedan, not Hatch. Its closest relatives are the BMW “GT” 4 doors, essentially 5 series with much higher roof and interior room and a coupe back, and the X4, X6, and whatever other Xs BMW SUVs exist, and their Merc equivalents.

    The numbers are compelling, and the dash is a brilliant design, it does not look like an add-on. While I liked the Airplane cockpit like layout of older flagship sedans, with a ton of knobs and buttons, this is far smarter and cleaner, AND classier, because, unless you pay $250,000+ and get a ROlls or Bentley, the old fashioned dashes have tons of cheap plastic materials, many times painted silver, to resemble fake metals, and the overall effect is cheap and poor.

  15. L2LHWP Says:

    That Model y interior is plain with a tablet thrown in the middle. Futuristic maybe but elegant or brilliant laughable. That description sounds like it was copied from a Tesla sales brochure. Tesla paying people to comment on their behalf?

  16. Larry D. Says:

    Here is the key variable for the Y’s size, the interior room in cubic feet, with rear seats down of it and its competitor luxury and near-luxury crossovers and SUVs:

    BMW X4: 50 cu ft
    Lexus NX200: 55
    Lexus RX350: 56
    Mercedes GLC400: 57
    Acura RDX: 59
    BMW X6: 60

    And the winner is…

    Tesla Model Y, 66 cubic feet!

  17. Larry D. Says:

    15 should say cargo room, not interior room, with rear seats down for all rivals and for the Y.

    BTW the 6th and 7th seats are a $3k option. If you have lots of kids, or routinely take more than 5 passengers, it makes sense.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The Tesla Y is a tall hatch in the style of a Honda Crosstour, BMW X4 and X6, and a few MB kind of ugly tall hatches that have come and gone. The Model Y will work very well, though, with its low center of gravity, and roomy, tall body. The Y’s shape should also have low drag, for the amount of space inside.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It’s probably been known for 100 years that garbage gives off methane, but collecting it in large scale is not simple. I hope efforts to collect efficiently will succeed, both because of the reduction in greenhouse gas released, and because it is “free fuel,” except, of course, the cost of collecting it.

  20. w l simpson Says:

    Where is a midsize SUV EV ,w/ICE gen ?

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    20 There is a Mitsubishi Outlander plug-in hybrid, with 22 miles of electric range.

  22. ChuckGrenci Says:

    For those interested in F1, Australian Grand Prix qualifying is tonight 2am eastern on ESPN2. The race is Sunday morning 1:30am eastern on ESPN1. Going to see what everybody’s got.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 I’ll set my alarm. I probably will cancel it and go back to sleep, but the new season, even more than most recent ones, will be interesting. Assuming I don’t watch the qualifying, I will be checking the results the first time I am awake after it is over.

  24. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Merc’s on top again; sad for me (Ferrari fan).

  25. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb_Wn6K0uVs

    A very educational presentation.

    First you hear Musk Hypothesize that EVs are stupid, and establishing an EV company is stupidity squared.

    Then the names of the Teslas are explained.

    “S” stands for Sedan, but “MODEL S” also stands for Models. Musk’s own “S” had a plate “MODELS1″ and his second “MODELS2″ which raised the ire of those driving behind it.

    The Model S had incredible success in humiliating the flagship models from all luxury makers and dominating their segment, in addition to being invaluable preparation for the model 3.

    FORD killed “SEXY” by not allowing Musk to use “E” for the “Model E”, so he went with “Model 3″ instead.

    For the rest, you got to watch the video.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24. I didn’t see it, just the results, but was hoping Merc’s domination might be over with the rules changes. No such luck. Gasly won’t be with Red Bull very long, based on his performance.

  27. Larry D. Says:

    25 In the video, you also see the old Roadster, the unbelievable (performance wise, and with 620 miles range) new Roadster, and even a big red SEMI, the Tesla Semi drove itself from the Bay area to the LA area presentation (how many miles? it has a range of 500) nonstop. They thought of calling it the “SEMI SEXY” but it might feel slighted so they did not.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 He didn’t say it, but Elon used “S,” and wanted to use “E” because they are used for the large, and mid-size cars from a certain German car company. Using his explanation, the Model S should have been “H” for hatchback, and the Model 3 should have been “S” for sedan.

  29. Larry D. Says:

    28 Wrong, he most certainly said that the S in Model S stood for Sedan, and your ‘theory’ about the S class is just speculation. Tesla never aped the S class, LEXUS blatantly did so in 1989 with its L S 400 which copied not only the S part but also the 400 part, AND in addition the car grille looked a whole lot like the S. (Infiniti tried to be the poor man’s BMW instead)

    The Model S looks nothing like the S class, but looks much more like the Porsche Panamera.

    So I repeat what MUSK said: and it makes 100% logical sense, he named the sedan S, then the crossover “X=cross) X, and wanted, just for the fun of it, to call the model 3 E (Electric?) and the smaller crossover Y just so the four spell “SEXY” but Ford killed Sex, again as Musk himself said in the video.

    But I urge anybody who wants to learn a whole lot to listen to the entire Video, 30-35 mins, it has a TON of important info, if I had to transcribe it it would take an hour and ten pages. All red meat too, no fluff.

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    29. Yes, he said that Model S stood for sedan, but at an earlier time, he might have said something different, not that it matters. I plan to watch the video, though.

  31. Andy B Says:

    I guess they couldn’t call it “Grabber Green” since that was an AMC/FCA color for the AMX.

  32. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Here’s what Rupert Murdoch’s newspaper had to say about Elon Musk. No, I don’t agree with much of it, except maybe hyperloop.

    https://nypost.com/2018/07/21/elon-musk-is-a-total-fraud/

  33. Bob Wilson Says:

    #31 – That article is dated “July 21, 2018″ but that sentiment is easily found. The personal vitriol thrown at Musk doesn’t make a lick of sense. Regardless, the clock keeps ticking and Musk keeps Tesla coming out with profits and products.

    In two weeks we’ll get the Q1 2019 production numbers. Then in six weeks, the financials. This looks to be a good time to buy TSLA.

  34. Kit Gerhart Says:

    32 Yep, the article made no sense, even last July, but I thought it was, well, interesting that it was even published, which is why I linked it. It was completely off base regarding SpaceX, which has done very well, and with innovation, in a game that “upstarts” don’t normally get into.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It looks like F1 is going a little NASCAR gimicky with an extra point for fastest lap.

  36. joe Says:

    The Model Y will never become a reality because the company is headed for bankruptcy. Just another act to help boost it’s stock prices.

  37. Larry D. Says:

    35. That’s so true. It is up there with the Earth still being flat, and the US never landed on the Moon. Whacko…

  38. ChuckGrenci Says:

    34,
    Maybe just a little gimmicky; Bottas had to risk his (easy) win to gain back fastest lap. What Ferarri failed to do was bring in LeClerc with 5 laps left, put on fresh soft tires and more easily gain a fastest lap (and point) as he had the time to pit, not lose a position to Magnusson (he had plenty of interval) and Ferarri wasn’t going to let him challenge Vettel anyway.

  39. Larry D. Says:

    35 Now pay careful attention, Joe:

    Musk said that the Model Y will sell more than the Model 3 (which has HUGE Sales by itself, whether the Tesla haters admit it or not)AND the Model S combined.

    I can easily predict that the Model Y will do even better than that:

    I predict it will sell more than the Model S, the Model X, the Model 3 and the Tesla Roadster, ie ALL the other Tesla vehicles on sale, PUT TOGETHER.

    Put that in your uninformed, conspiracy-theory without any facts pipe, and smoke it.

  40. Larry D. Says:

    One segment of the show I did not comment on, with all the big news this week:

    “Mahindra Wants to Sell Pass. Van in U.S.”

    Ask me if I care. But I know a ton of dealers, who were BETRAYED by the same criminals of Mahindra, and spent $100,000 apiece for showrooms and other facilities for some pie in the sky 4th rate cheapo products Mahindra lied to them it would sell in the US market.

    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    Mahindra will never sell any vehicles in the US market, if there is ANY JUSTICE.

  41. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Maybe the Model Y will help make mildly tall hatchbacks fashionable in America. An article I saw estimates the it will be about 63 inches tall, about the same as an X1 or Bolt, and midway between a 58 inch tall Prius, and 68 inch tall Rav4. It should be a good compromise between packaging and drag, and the CG will be very low, the better for handling.

  42. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Maybe Mahindra tractor stores would want to try selling those vans, as long as they don’t need to build a showroom.

  43. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I’ve said it before, with so many vehicles already available in the market, before Mahindra brings anything else into the market it better be very good or offer some kind of uniqueness. Too much stuff already.

  44. Kit Gerhart Says:

    42 How about an actual small pickup truck? Wait, didn’t they mention that once?

  45. Larry D. Says:

    FCA has sued Mahindra for using its trademark grille (or an poor interpretation thereof) with the seven vertical openings. Don’t know if the suit was adjudicated.

  46. veh Says:

    John, do you think this RNG thing really has legs? I remember T Boone Pickens and his push for natural gas as an automotive fuel, which pretty much fizzled.

  47. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It would make more sense to use the gas for other things, like adding it to the gas supply for home use and power plants. For cars, you need to pressurize it to about 2500 psi to carry a useful amount.

  48. joe Says:

    Why doesn’t Trump attack Apple who gave American technology to the Chinese? Apple is a huge company who makes the iPhone in China and couldn’t give a hoot about creating American jobs.