AD #2575 – Chevy Revives Old Names in China, More Info on Cadillac CT5, VW Gauging Reaction to Small Pickup

April 16th, 2019 at 11:37am

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Runtime: 7:24

0:23 Toyota Electrifies the C-HR
1:04 Honda X-NV is a Battery Powered HR-V
1:20 Chevy Revives Old Names in China
1:45 Buick Shows 1st EV, All-New Encore & High-End Van
2:27 Mercedes GLB Looks Like a Rugged Off Roader
3:07 Kia Updates China’s Version of the Forte
3:32 Aston Martin Shows Production EV
4:34 More Info on CT5, the CTS’ Replacement
5:49 VW Testing Small Pickup Waters in NY

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35 Comments to “AD #2575 – Chevy Revives Old Names in China, More Info on Cadillac CT5, VW Gauging Reaction to Small Pickup”

  1. Larry D. Says:

    That Rapid EV has good lines, but the fake grille up front looks terrible. Also I expect the rear seat to be quite cramped, a sacrifice to styling, and be able to fit only two little women, or three little kids, or Sean’s dog.

  2. David Sprowl Says:

    VW Tarok pickup – S I G N M E U P! look the beauty of the Avalanche was the mid gate. It is another genius way to a convertible SUV/Pick up truck.

  3. ChuckGrenci Says:

    So the CTS is now the CT5 (still looks like an “S”), doesn’t it. And the “C”adillac,”U”ser, “E”xperience isn’t CUE anymore, well; it sure looks like it still is.

    And I’m a Caddy fan (they sure are trying my patience though). :)

  4. Buzzerd Says:

    I don’t understand why VW doesn’t bring there trucks here, pretty much anything truckish sells in N.A. As a owner of an Avalanche I wish someone would come out with a similar design. The midgate adds so much usability to the vehicle, I would skip the removable window feature though, I think I’ve used it once in the 2 Avalanches I’ve owned.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Maybe VW should try selling that pickup here, if it wouldn’t cost too much to federalize. I doubt if it would sell well, though, because it isn’t macho trucky enough for Americans who buy pickups. The Ridgeline is better than the competition, for what most people actually use pickup trucks for, but it doesn’t sell well.

  6. Brett Cammack Says:

    2

    Ya beat me to it, David. Agree completely. If I can’t have a RAM 700, sign me up for one of the Taroks!

  7. Brett Cammack Says:

    5

    I think the Tarok has a little more visual impact than the current Ridgeline.

    I always thought the original Ridgeline was a sort of goofy homage to the Avalanche, but at least it made some kind of visual statement. I miss them, just a bit.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 It kind of makes sense for Cadillac to try to quell the use lf the “CUE” moniker, because it generally has a bad reputation for user friendliness, but if they want do that, it would make sense to come up with a different name, with different initials.

    As far as a name for the new car, how about Seville? That is a good name, that shouldn’t have too much “baggage.”

  9. Larry D. Says:

    Yeah, the Tarok looks like a fun little toy. Or maybe it is a big obese toy but still looks like a fun little something all right.

    Of course, a lot depends on what it offers for the (?) price.

  10. Larry D. Says:

    8 PS I doubt I would be attracted to buy one for $30k, or even $20k.

    You may say, but $20k? You can get nothing for $20k, a Nissan Versa or a Yaris at best! (if you add taxes and fees)

    Right. But I can choose among a ton of fantastic, mint condition, supercars for less than $20k!

    Look at that stylish 2011 Big Touring Coupe, the CL (S-class based coupe). It is 8″ shorter than the vast S-class, but still very heavy at 4,650 lbs. It has 430 HP from an about 5 lt v8. The one I posted here had only 75k miles! And the asking price was below $18k, so I expect I could easily get it for $17k.

    Seriously? Instead of this, I’d buy a… Tarok?

    When hell freezes over.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    8, The Tarok concept is smaller than I expected, 193.5 long and 72 inches wide. That makes it almost two feet shorter than the Ridgeline or “crew cab” Colorado, and narrower than both. The wheelbase is bout 118 inches, 7 shorter than the Ridgeline.

  12. Buzzerd Says:

    7, yea a ridgeline isn’t the best looking vehicle out there, kind of weird and that no doubt hurts it’s sales. If Nissan can sell a ton of outdated Frontiers surely VW could sell enough Taroks to make it worth their time.

  13. Larry D. Says:

    8, 9 and as I expect the Tarok to be at least $30k actual transaction price, I’ll pull out my $30k, buy the CL masterpiece for $17k, spend another $8k to get a ton of flying lessons and a pilot’s license, and still have $5k left for some fun.

    Decisions, decisions. I’d make up my mind faster than the speed of light.

  14. Bryan Williams Says:

    Love the pup, Sean!

    The CT5 is DOA for me. I know they are different platforms but I just see too much Buick Regal in the profile.

    And why NMs? Is this more conformity to the Chinese market?

  15. Larry D. Says:

    10 Most of the diff is the shorter cab. But using your numbers, the Tarok has a huge wheelbase relatively to its length, compared to the Ridge. Which is always a good thing in my book (which book focuses on cars and not trucks, though)

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    So no one at Buick is paying attention to the current market and realizing that Chryslers attempt to take the best selling minivan and upscale it by replacing it with the Pacifica has utterly failed. So they think there is a market for a high end minivan?

    Another huge waste of money has to be Astons attempt to offer and EV. With only building 155 units they either plan to lose money on each one or they are going to be crazy expensive.

    The Tarok seems like a very versatile truck and if provided the proper powertrain could outsell the Ridgeline. So where did they place their spare tire? Hopefully not accessed thru the bed.

  17. JWH Says:

    #13 – While I won’t accuse Cadillac of marketing speak, could they be using NM’s so they can publish a larger number than Lb-ft?

  18. Phred Says:

    Poor Cadillac! Still “lost” in the alphabet soup naming game…and the newton -Meter (nm) stat for torque?? Is anyone at GM working to sell their cars or are they looking for the next “press release splash? Cadillac in the past represented an ownership that made a statement for the owner/driver. Now…who even understands their model musical chairs!

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 Yes, on the larger numbers, at least I read that somewhere, maybe TTAC.

    9 Speaking of pickup trucks and Benzes, some people buy pickup trucks mainly, or only because they are rated to tow. For some reason, though Benz cars have a tow rating of zero in the US., but in the rest of the world, they have substantial tow ratings. An ’09 E320d, in the UK, has a tow rating of 1800 kg, and almost any S-Class has a tow rating of 2100 kg or higher. Why the difference between the US and the rest of the world? I see the same thing with other cars, like VW Golf and Jetta.

  20. Larry D. Says:

    18 GM plans to add a rounded (upwards, of course, and in Ntm instead of Lbft) torque number on the model’s name. So my 320 Bluetec with its 400 or so lbft would be the Bluetec 550.

    As for towing, in Europe even the tiniest, small engined, anemic torqued econoboxes have tow ratings. There are small plastic boats that don’t weigh much you see them towing all the time.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq9IvgfLFgk

    I just finished watching this. While a new S class starts at $92k, the 600 Maybach version is $200k. More than twice, but it has a huge and impressive array of luxuries, and tech gadgets, the interior compares well with a Rolls or a Bentley.

    The only problem is, you buy this if you want to be driven and live in the rear seat. So maybe when we turn 85 or older.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 You also see small hatches in Europe towing small, light weight caravans (camping trailers), but usually not going very fast.

    With its ~4000 pound tow rating in Europe, your E320 bluetec. would be able to tow a majority of boats I see being towed, but for whatever reason, MBUSA says to tow nothing.

  23. Larry D. Says:

    21 Yes, I have a cousin who used to take their annual vacation with her ex-husband and son in their small caravan. He had an interesting collection of cars incl a boxy small Alfa Giulia Super from the 60s, and a Norton Commando bike.

    Technically the cars are not much different here and there but it may be a legal thing.

  24. XA351GT Says:

    Other than the emblems there isn’t much on that CT5 design that says Cadillac. From the side it looks like every other mid size GM sedan.

  25. XA351GT Says:

    I like the looks of the Rapide I know the grille serves no function on a EV ,but without it it’s not a Aston

  26. XA351GT Says:

    The Tarok is a step in the right direction ,but I still long for a mini pick up with a reg. cab and 6 1/2 foot bed option. get them back to the size of the 70s mini trucks and they’d have my attention.

  27. Bob White Says:

    It’s pretty obvious that Beijing is building for the future while NY is looking back to cater to a clientèle which hasn’t yet evolved to this century.

    The Chinese electrics are going to absolutely steamroll the world market beginning in 2020.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 You can barely get a regular cab pickup of any kind. Big Chevy and Ford are the only ones available at all. Ram no longer sells them, at least the new version, and none of the “mid-size” trucks offer a regular cab.

    As everyone here knows, I’m not a “truck guy,” but I kind of like the looks of a regular cab pickup, especially short bed. Maybe it’s because they are so rare, with those 20 foot long “crew cab” things now making up about 90% of the pickup market.

  29. cwolf Says:

    Why would anyone in their right mind care about China auto sales? After all… everything they know they pilfer.

    The Tarok is something that should be made for the U.S. It’s perfect for women truckers and serves most everyone’s needs. I bet it could haul 50 bags of mulch, a riding mower or a bunch of camp gear. My old Ford Ranger was a swell small truck. Now its labeled mid-sized Hell..it’s as big as the trucks from the 50-60″s ! The next gen. F150 will prolly be so big it will need a wide load sign to drive it on the road!

  30. Kit Gerhart Says:

    People in the industry care about Chinese auto sales, because China is the biggest auto market in the world, by a substantial margin.

  31. Larry D. Says:

    28 US sales are barely 17 mill a year. China sales were recently over 30 mill a year. And they are no cheap econoboxes either. Don’t care about them at your own risk.

  32. Sunrack Says:

    Trailblazer was originally a Chrysler Trademark (Plymouth Trailblazer / Dodge Ramcharger)

  33. Larry D. Says:

    Was going thru the latest issue of Pop Mechanics, they had some car awards, the EV they liked was the Kia Niro EV. For $30k, its quite affordable and looks much better than the tall and short and bloated Bolt, or even the weird Leaf. It is a small wagon, looks normal from the back, did not have a pic of the grille. I doubt if it is half as satisfying to drive as the only $5k more expensive, much bigger, much more powerful Model 3. Also its cargo capacity may not be huge due to its stylishly low roofline.

  34. Lambo2015 Says:

    27 The problem with buying a regular cab is it would be even more difficult to sell 2nd hand than a 2WD truck. Similarly buying a 4 or 6 cyl Mustang or Camaro might fit your needs better but unloading it 3 or 4 years later can be difficult. Even if you can find a buyer the value wont be there, so bigger loss on what seems like a good deal when new.

  35. Rick Wakefield Says:

    LarryD,

    Curious where you live.? I’ve looked for a MB 2011 CL Coupe for less than $20K and haven’t been able to find one.
    The last one I did find had 180K mi and they wanted $22K.

    I won’t pay that much for that year with that many miles. Maybe I can look in your neighborhood for a car with under 100K miles for $17 -18k Dollars.

    Please Email me with info. I’m in the market.
    Thanks, Rick

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