AD #2606 – Cadillac Reveals CT4-V & CT5-V, Merrill Lynch Slashes EV Forecast, Tesla Announces Model 3 Pricing in China

May 31st, 2019 at 11:52am

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Runtime: 8:24

0:59 Merrill Lynch Slashes EV Forecast
1:54 CR Says EV Tax Credit Shouldn’t Go to Luxury Buyers
2:25 Tesla Announces Model 3 Pricing in China
2:51 MINI EV Pulls Boeing Airplane
3:44 Volvo Tests Mixed Reality in Product Development
4:31 Cadillac Reveals CT4-V & CT5-V
5:42 Waymo To Test Self-Driving Semis
6:16 Penske Bullish on Future of Auto Industry

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28 Comments to “AD #2606 – Cadillac Reveals CT4-V & CT5-V, Merrill Lynch Slashes EV Forecast, Tesla Announces Model 3 Pricing in China”

  1. MJB Says:

    The reveal of those two V series Cadillacs (plus my recent viewing of a Hoovies Garage review of the ’66 Imperial) got me to thinking…

    I wonder how many of today’s drivers would consider a (modern day) sedan that rides like the land-yachts of old. Even though I’m only 48, I really love the feel of floating down the road in one of those old-school palaces on wheels. I know that in order to compete and stay relevant Cadillac, Lincoln, Buick (and Lexus) had to cram performance and agility into their product offerings. But those qualities ALWAYS stiffen the ride quality, thus lessen that ‘lap of luxury’ feel.

    Sean/John (or anybody), which sedan’s ride would you say comes closest to the land-yachts of the 60′s 70′s and even some 80′s?

  2. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Quite a few of us here at Autoline Daily commenters have aped the Merrill Lynch EV forecast and CR’s tax credits rhetoric; maybe they were watching our comments and finally came around to a more realistic point of view.

    CT4/5 “V” should have retained the proper moniker of V-Sport; these are not “V” series contenders; any assuage to the true “V” series is a drain on the superior “V” series legacy.

  3. Lex Says:

    GM needs to offer that 320hp 2.7 Turbo engine in the 2020 Chevy Equinox and GMC Terrain. Eliminate the 1.5 Turbo currently offered in those vehicles.

    Also add height adjustable seatbelts merging from the “B” pillar. The lack of adjustability puts a strain on both the drivers and front passenger’s necks.

  4. Lex Says:

    I highly recommend watching this week’s ATW #2314 with Roger Penske. John does an excellent job interviewing Roger Penske. Roger is amazing and full of insight and foresight into the automotive industry. Roger Penske is a true GIANT in the automotive industry.

  5. Lambo2015 Says:

    Not really surprised by the EV forecasts being cut in half. They should probably do the same for AV. I still don’t believe that even in 2030 which sounds far out but essentially is just 10 years away that EVs will make up 15% of US sales. I believe it will cap out at 10% unless there is a major breakthrough in battery technology.

  6. Lambo2015 Says:

    On the V-series cadddys. The HP numbers are not as much a concern to me than actual performance. The car could have 200hp but if can turn in a 13 sec 1/4 mile then its enough HP.

  7. Lambo2015 Says:

    #1 I think the last Cadillac to give you that truly soft boat like ride was as recent as 2011/12. The 2 ton Cadillac DTS was still kind of a boat with a soft ride and pretty large trunk. What they are truly missing is a convertible. The last Cadillac convertible was the 1976 Eldorado. Well unless you count the Corvette sibling XLR which certainly didn’t have a soft ride.

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    Are there very many potential Mini buyers that also need to tow a 150 ton plane, or anything for that matter?
    Really dumb advertisement Mini. Does this portray that the Mini EV is Quick, has a long range, fun to drive? Oh its capable of doing something no one will ever use it for. Id be more impressed with them powering a whole house during a power outage.

  9. Sean McElroy Says:

    @MJB – The only sedans I can think of that ride like old land yachts at the moment are really expensive luxury cars. But I’m going to keep thinking about this.

  10. MJB Says:

    Sean, I was thinking the exact same thing. i.e., Rolls and Bentley.

    Pretty much anything with air-ride suspension is going to be as close as we can get in mimicking the ride dynamics of the heavy-gauge steel body-on-frame behemoths of old. With half a city block of wheelbase to help offset the effect of bumps and potholes, it’s easy to see how an otherwise average gas shock setup could seem so smooth. Not to mention that suspension bushings back then were a heck of a lot closer to rubber than the high content polyurethane ones we’ve got in most cars today.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Do these 20 foot long “crew cab” pickup trucks, with the softest available suspension ride like an old Buick? Maybe that’s why people buy them.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 If they don’t ride like that, there might be a market for aftermarket soft springs, especially for the Ram which has coils on all four corners.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 It’s really surprising how those “heavy-gauge steel body-on-frame behemoths” don’t weight nearly as much as one might expect. For example, a ’55 Buick weighs only 3900 pounds. I guess all of the steel in those cars is visible, while newer cars have a lot of steel hidden in the structure, to make them crashworthy.

  14. Len simpson Says:

    CTS 4 -5 etc wow! what exciting titles ! I miss the Eldorado , Seville & CoupedeVille.
    The “Standard of the World” is no more

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 For unknown reasons, cheaper cars like Chevys, Fords, and Toyotas have names, while more expensive ones like Cadillacs, Benzes, BMWs, and Lincolns do not have names. Yeah, it doesn’t make a lot of sense.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Well, Lincoln is adding a couple names, to make the brand more like Ford?

  17. Rick Wakefield Says:

    @10 Kit,
    I have been a luxery car kind of guy since I was in my early 30′s. (many years ago) Didn’t consider buying anything but Caddilac’s and other comfortable cars. Some domestic, some not.
    But I just bought a used Chevy Silverado extended cab fully loaded with the X71 4×4 package.
    This thing is as comfortable as most of the luxury cars I’ve owned in the past. I bought it used just to have around to do the things you need to do with a pick up. Towing, Home Depot, etc.
    I still miss the last year of the Buick Riviera with the 3800 supercharged engine.
    Bought that fully loaded as well with leather, but I think that’s the only way the dealers were ordering them.
    Took real good care of that car and loved driving it after some modifications. Unfortunately New England salted roads and rot got the best of it last year finally had to part with it. Difficult decision.
    But this truck, I’m starting to enjoy driving this. Will still get a new luxury car within the next 6 months but until then I’m happy.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 In Indiana, as where you are, many, or most cars die of road salt damage, rather than wearing out or being crashed. I guess the car companies like that.

  19. ChuckGrenci Says:

    The two leading stories, from today, are EV sales predicted to lag earlier forecasts and Tax Credits are going to the wrong buyers; both of these revelations have been aped from some of us posters for months (maybe they’ve been reading our comments). :D

    CT4/5 “V” series is kind of a slap in the face to the true “V” series and an assuage to the legacy of the original “V’s”. Even with more ‘potent’ “V” series coming, these early releases should have retained the moniker of V-Sport, not V-Series (big difference).

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    For anyone who’s interested, you can find information about where cars are assembled, and some other related information here:

    https://www.nhtsa.gov/part-583-american-automobile-labeling-act-reports

  21. ChuckGrenci Says:

    The information is out there, you just have to find it; nice link, Kit.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 A link I’d used for a long time quit working a year or so ago, and I just re-found it. The information is provided by the manufacturers, so the accuracy may vary. Also, there is a lot of missing data, especially 2019 data for Hyundai and Kia.

  23. Larry D. Says:

    Both you and even CR MISS THE BLOODY POINT. IT should NEVER have been a TAX CREDIT, because the poorer buyers will have NO BENEFIT from it!!!! It should be a simple REBATE. Limited to people with BELOW average income, or income not to exceed 10% of average income. NOT a bloody tax credit. whether the EV is cheap or not is IRRELEVANT.

  24. Larry D. Says:

    14 Wrong. Both Rolls and Bentley, which sell for 5 and 10 times what mercedeses sell, even 20 times with options, have NO bloody alphanumeric names, but ALL of them have REAL names.

  25. Larry D. Says:

    4 Not that I believe the EV vorecasts made by the irrelevants on Wall Street, but they are just for the US market. China is twice as big an EV market than the US, and has huge incentives for EVS AND huge dicincentives for dirty cars. Europe has huge potential and is moving away from the diesels and into Encouraging EVs.

  26. Kit gerhart Says:

    22. Well excuuuse me. I should have said that “brands in the middle” tend to use alphanumeric names, while mainstream brands and those so expensive that their market shares are in hundredths of a percent tend to use real names.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Some numbers got shifted. #26 refers to #24.

  28. Eric Brunner Says:

    Coming from a region where seat belts are mandatory, not sure if the fellow winning the contest should be disqualified for not wearing his as I could not see a shoulder belt in use.