AD #2727 – McLaren’s Profits Down, Lincoln To Use Rivian Skateboard, Cadillac Blackwing V8 May Disappear

November 27th, 2019 at 11:53am

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Runtime: 8:56

0:07 Millennials Expected to Buy More New Cars
0:43 Global Car Sales Fall Again
1:26 Automakers Cut Jobs to Invest in EVs & AVs
2:41 McLaren Revenue Up but Profits Down
3:27 Cadillac CT5 Sedan Pricing Announced
4:06 Cadillac Blackwing V8 May Disappear
5:07 Lincoln To Use Rivian Skateboard in Electric SUV
5:45 EV Startup Shows Pickup in China
6:37 Magna Develops 5-Cell Bumper Beam
7:23 ZF Creates Electric Motor for Yachts

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38 Comments to “AD #2727 – McLaren’s Profits Down, Lincoln To Use Rivian Skateboard, Cadillac Blackwing V8 May Disappear”

  1. Brett Cammack Says:

    Best wishes to all from Rancho Cammack in Daytona Beach, FL for this Thanksgiving holiday.

    Wish you all could be here for the annual Turkey Run. Untold hundreds of vehicles and acres of swap meet. All automotive stuff!

  2. Kit Gerhart Says:

    1 What’s the turkey run? Is it at the speedway?

  3. Kevin A Says:

    I like that electric pickup startup. Maybe FCA should invest in that company. They could call the new truck the Power Wagon!

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    That Neuron EV truck is very cool and takes advantage of the space where an engine normally would be. I like the seating flexibility but not so sure about the center driving position.
    These skateboard platforms sure seem to drive in the direction of having a multitude of vehicles on a similar if not same platform. Reminds me a toy I had as a child.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_kPMKvFKx0

  5. Thirsten Says:

    Neuron was founded by Edward Lee, CEO and President and Scott Zheng, co-founder. The Chinese want access to silicon valley tech. They also fund research in US and Canadian universities which lead to Chinese patents which are 90% funded by taxpayers. This even includes tech to be used by the Chinese military. In Canada they do it for wireless as we are leaders in that technology for the time being.

    And why do you think they rolled-up the red carpet for Tesla in China? They made the only exception by not obligating Tesla to get a Chinese partner and made Musk an honorary Chinese national. When the Chinese are kissing your ass, you can soon expect that the big Chinese dick isn’t far behind. You can also bet that the plant will be staffed with PLA workers and filled with every spyware imaginable. They are still finding all types of spying devices in the old Nortel building in Ottawa which is now owned by national defence. It’s well known that Huawei hacked Nortel to death.

  6. Jim Haines Says:

    I know that some boats use electric motors just like diesel locomotives do so this is only new with a battery

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6 Defunct Windjammer Barefoot Cruises’ last ship, the Legacy, started life as a motor vessel, built in the late 1950s, using diesel-electric power. As I remember, it had three diesesl, two used at a time, and two electric motors turning the props.

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    Yea the electrical sailboat seems like a logical step forward. I would still be a bit hesitant to grab a 240V charging plug standing on a wet aluminum dock. Also the slightest current on an outdrive will increase corrosion a couple times over.

  9. Bob Wilson Says:

    Happy holidays and drive safe. There are many others out who don’t. Drive defensive and don’t let a schedule lead to grief.

  10. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Azipods have been around for a while and have been used in ocean liners/tugs, etc. There are variable ways to use the propulsion but it looks as ZF has brought this technology to the sportsman sized sailboat (in the case presented) and is using battery to propel and energize the motors. Pivoting pods allow for greatest maneuverability which helps with docking and close quarter navigating.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 Yeah, nearly all of the new cruise ships have used azipods for probably the last 25 years. The pods wouldn’t be very efficient, but they are great for parking a 900 foot ship in a 903 foot long space. Apparent one, huge diesel, running about 50 rpm is the most efficient way to move a ship. At least that is what they use for the big cargo ships.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The video of the ZF boat motor didn’t say if you can charge the battery, using the prop as a “windmill” and the motor as a generator. That could be useful, if the drag wouldn’t slow the boat down too much.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    @ChuckGrenci,
    I watched the video you linked yesterday about electric bikes, and it was interesting. The Zero in the video was a lot more expensive than the one I rode last spring, but was probably quicker, and, I think, had twice the battery, for more range. The guy really wanted you to know that the Harley was heavy, and felt heavy. I don’t know the weight of the Zero I rode, but it felt pretty light, and performed well. I hadn’t heard of the Italian one, but it looked impressive.

  14. ChuckGrenci Says:

    13, I think the Zero that he was reviewing was a different model than what they first introduced that you probably rode. In the video I saw a smaller Zero but that wasn’t the one he reviewed. At nearly 20 G’s it sure wasn’t very cheap but sure made the Harley looks way too high of a price. He said he still liked the Harley even with the high center of gravity mentioned. These electric’s would work for the weekend warriors for the most part; troubling for the touring enthusiast biker though. Charging, even the quick charge, seemed limiting for extended miles.

  15. Larry D. Says:

    My visit is soon coming to an end, I will take THanksgiving off by giving my savages their 3 hour final exam today, and my willing assistant will have to grade it before or after I leave.

    Speaking of driving carefully, yesterday I had a 3 PM appointment with the dean of our joint institute with CHina’s second best (out of .. 100,000?) universities, and if I used mass transit it would take 5 hours on the road. In the US I would not do this, but here I asked my Host for a University car and driver, they asked me when I need it, I was afraid they’d tell me none is available at that time, but they did not.

    Unfortunately the splendid black Maybach S 450 was not available, and the gorgeous black E class 300 Ls must have been booked, for I got a white Toyota sedan plus driver. It was either Corolla (but it did not say so) or a Yaris sized sedan, felt much more substantial on the road than the god-awful Scion XA which felt like a feather in the wind. The interior was solid but not luxurious, and even when it looked upscale (it even had fake stitching on its plastics), on touch it did not.

    The driver was a piece of work, he was driving fast and despite all the obstacles, he did the 90 min drive in 60 mins under heavy rain and poor visibility. At the same time he made full use of his mobile as Nav, making calls, etc. But he delivered me safely home. His GPS was apparently not up to date since it blurted (in english) that my building (no 62B) did not exist. So the last half mile I was the Navigator.

    That visit revealed stunning facts. Regular students at that U pay 5,000 Yuan a year tuition, BUT those in our joint institute pay 15 TIMES (not %!) that, Y 75,000 a year! Plus the Joint Institute had a ton of donors, both Chinese Companies and Education funds, and US based wildly successful Chinese Americans (one couple donated a cool 10 mill US$)

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 Was the Toyota manual, or automatic? When I was there, all the VW taxis were manual, and the drivers drive impressively smoothly, and efficiently, while making good time in the city, going for open spaces, never mind the lane marking, all with no crashes, and few close calls.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 I was surprised that the Harley would be top heavy, with the motor and powertrain down low like it appears to be.

    The range of those bikes would work for all of the riding I do with one of my bikes up north, a KLR650. I don’t take long trips, but If I did, I’d use my other bike, a Silver Wing big scooter, because of the good wind and weather protection. It only has about 150 mile range, but it doesn’t take long to pump 3 gallons of gas.

  18. Larry D. Says:

    16 it was a manual. I thought it was too narrow to be a Corolla, the way these cars have grown over 30 years, plus it did not have the name on the trunk. It was a recent model, judging from the grille.

    The driver initially opened the glove box and offered me a Marlboro from a pack, but when I declined he did not smoke himself. I offered him a gum to reciprocate but he refused.

  19. Larry D. Says:

    I saw a small truck carrying Tesla Model 3s. not sure if they were imports or made in the local factory here.

    This time I saw several Peugeots and Citroens (even more of those) both here and on the road and out of town, they use them as taxis as well.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 That’s interesting that the driver offered you a cigarette. A taxi driver or two offered me cigerattes 25 years ago, but I figured that would be a thing of the past. Then, at least one driver smoked after I declined, but it was warm, and the windows were open. I don’t know if those taxis had a/c or not.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    20 Lots of Chinese still smoke (not students, from what I’ve seen), but the fines are heavy (Y 1,000 for the smoker) and much heavier for the building owner (Y 10,000 or 15,000 or 50,000). In my case I assume the driver wanted to smoke, and hoped that if I accepted his Marlboro I would allow him to. Our car had A/C and I think he did not understand that it also works with hot air, because it was quite chilly and the day was cold.

  22. Ctech Says:

    @ #2 Kit check this link for the Daytona Turkey Run: https://www.daytonabeach.com/event/daytona-turkey-run/39146

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 Thanks. I’m surprised I’m not familiar with it. Is the traffic a mess, or is it not to bad getting there? Can spectators park in the infield, or you you need to park somewhere else? I might go, probably Saturday.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22,23 Never mind on the spectator parking. I found out. I’m tempted to go; I’m only about an hour and a half away from Daytona, but it sounds like the traffic might be a mess.

  25. Larry D. Says:

    https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/psa-changan-ready-sale-ds-factory-china?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20191129&utm_content=article4-headline

    I thought I saw too many Citroens here, this is because they actually make them here, but sales have slowed. Competition is tough… so PSA is calling it quits.

  26. Larry D. Says:

    https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/bmw-great-wall-open-160000-capacity-china-plant?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20191129&utm_content=article2-headline

    One quits, another one enters China (BMW-Great Wall to make 160,000, Minis etc)

  27. Larry D. Says:

    I am supposed to fly back to the US at 11:40 AM here, and be there at 12:18 PM, same day, Sat Nov 30.

    It has been a very rewarding trip so far. The dean who invited me sees China as still a “developing” country, and wants to take advantage of its still very low labor costs to build all kinds of infrastructure and buildings, before wages grow too high.

    In my train trips I saw plenty of cranes build not one or two but forests of 50 story apartment hi-rises, both in the Shanghai area and 1,000 miles inland at Xi’an, the ancient capital.

    Shanghai still has old neighborhoods with single-story houses and stores, and of course the rest of China is full of them too. I guess all these will be eventually torn down and the residents relocated to these forests of high rises.

    The area I was staying in is brand new, they started development in 2000 and expected it to grow to a 500,000 city, but so far only 100,000 have come, including major companies from overseas (DHL etc), large university hospitals from here etc.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    26 How long will BMW keep building Mini in the UK? With the Brexit mess, they might move all production to China, though they now build Countryman in the Netherlands using a contract company.

  29. Kit Gerhart Says:

    27 Yeah, China is a developing country, and developing very quickly, with infrastucture projects that the US, and most of the world could only dream of. I saw the start of it 25 years ago, and it has been full speed ahead since then.

  30. Larry D. Says:

    ATW’s topis is “Rebuilding Acura as a performance (SIC) brand”.

    Seriously? Acura is a cadaver. They have no chance in hell being anything, much less a new “performance brand”.

    WHat a waste.

    And I still am a big fan of Honda (not Acura, though, for decades now, it has lost its way big time)

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    30 Acura has one performance car, NSX, but it’s not selling very well, at about $160K

  32. Kit Gerhart Says:

    …and unlike the original NSX, the new one doesn’t have a cassette player, even at that lofty price.

  33. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Arguably, the Acura TLX is a sports sedan, but it doesn’t sell too well either.

  34. Kit Gerhart Says:

    33 I just read a little about the TLX, and CR and C and D mostly agree. The main advantage the TLX has over the competition from Audi, BMW,and M-B is price. The TLX drives ok, but the interior isn’t as nice, and the infotainment system controls are generally bad. It seems that, other than the NSX which doesn’t really count, the MDX is the only Acura product that has much appeal in its market segment. Even the MDX is not very high in CR’s ratings.

  35. joe Says:

    “Lincoln to use Rivian skateboard” is not completely accurate. Should it have said, it’s using GM’s skateboard?

    https://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/24/forgotten-concept-2002-gm-autonomy/

  36. Larry D. Says:

    32 Does it at least have an 8-track tape player?

    33 No it is not, the ILX is a CIvic clone and the TSX is an Accord (smaller than the US accord, Euro-spec) clone, and Neither is a ‘sports car’

    First of all real cars are RWD. Esp sports cars. Acuras lose from the get-go.

    Can we be serious about this?

  37. Kit Gerhart Says:

    36 Nope, no 8-track either.

  38. Kit Gerhart Says:

    33,36. Arguably is the operative word, here. Honda/Acura argue that it is a sport sedan, even though it isn’t.