AD # 2886 – Alfa Romeo Stelvio Review; Ford & FCA Earnings Better Than Expected; Cadillac Lyriq Debuts Next Week

July 31st, 2020 at 12:11pm

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Runtime: 12:11

0:07 Ford & FCA Q2 Earnings Better Than Expected
1:41 Greg Kelly To Stand Trial in September
2:06 Honda Asks Office Workers to Help Build Cars
3:26 Cadillac Lyriq Debuts Next Week
3:58 Mahle Develops New A/C Condenser for EVs
4:34 Acura Taking New TLX To Pikes Peak
5:32 GM Producing New Versions of Old Engines
6:11 Jeep Offering Lift Kit for Diesel Wrangler & Gladiator
6:52 VW Considers Small Pickup
8:50 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio Impressions

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29 Comments to “AD # 2886 – Alfa Romeo Stelvio Review; Ford & FCA Earnings Better Than Expected; Cadillac Lyriq Debuts Next Week”

  1. Jim Haines Says:

    Alfa dealers will fail unless the owners just keep funneling money to a pit, they will never make it those days are gone

  2. Lambo2015 Says:

    VW could easily enter the US truck market with something none of them are offering which is the small pick-up. Not the overgrown midsize but something along the lines between a Subaru Brat and Chevy S10. IMO.

    Sean it would be really nice if when you show these vehicles like the Alpha Romeo that you park it next to something well known. The dimensions and size of the vehicle is hard to tell. To me it looked like the size of the Dodge Caliber but they call it a SUV so I assume its larger.
    Alpha will struggle with sales as I still don’t think people are willing to drop 100K on a small SUV that although it has decent performance and power is still small and not a sportscar. This mishmash of CUV sportscar still seems to be a tough sell.

  3. WineGeek Says:

    Alfa is a maintenance nightmare it looks good but runs awful!

  4. JR Says:

    It’s cool the GM is manufacturing new small block engines. This will ensure a good supply for years to come for those building custom vehicles. Unfortunately, Ford is unlikely to do the same with the 302/251 small blocks. The “Modular Mafia” made sure the tooling was scrapped so we would be stuck with the 4.6L/5.4 since *everyone* knows you can’t meet emissions with pushrods.

  5. David Sprowl Says:

    no workers? prior to covid many OEMs and some of their suppliers would use contingent or temp workers to fill gaps…for upto 2 years some even 3. No benefits less pay, limited options for time away. few make it the full time without walking away. now they are finding worker shortage against a virus?

  6. JR Says:

    @4 Sorry—typo. Make that 302/351 small blocks.

  7. Don Wagner1239 Says:

    Not the subject of today, but many, many people praise Ford for not taking the Government loans that saved GM and Chrysler. Well, not so fast Yogi Bear, check this one out: https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2020/07/29/ford-government-loan-department-energy-debt/5526413002/
    And they are still paying it off! Chrysler paid off early.

    Why the political ad from Larry D. yesterday? Should result in a forum ban. It’s being shown many times on local Detroit TV, so rather redundant to put into an auto forum. Don’t these posts get checked before allowing them? Sean, John?

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    6 I would bet many folks would like to see the old 289 being made too. Had one in a 68 Mustang. What a great engine. I believe that’s also what they used in the Sunbean Tigers.

  9. Kate McLeod Says:

    How long has VW considered a small pickup? When was it they showed a prototype? 2006 maybe? When will they build? Probably never. It is a tough market with enviable loyalty.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2. The Stelvio is about the same size as a BMW X3 and Honda CRV. It’s within 3 inches of those in length, within two inches in width, and within an inch in height.

    As others have said, if VW wants to get into the pickup business, make a small one. They’d have zero competition. I’d think even a front driver, a modern version of the Rabbit/A1 Golf pickup would sell, but something more like an old Ranger or S-10 might do even better.

  11. merv Says:

    I’m surprised alfa sold 10,000 of those. Would love vw to do a small pickup of some sort.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6,8. Yep, Ford should make 289/351 Windsor crate engines. Ford street rods would be a lot more “in character” with those, than with the Chevy engines most of them have now.

    4. I’d heard that the tooling was also scrapped for the Mopar “B Block” 361, 383, 413, 426, 440, etc. engines, but they sell B block crate engines, so that may not be true.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11. Most Stelvios are a lot less expensive than the one Sean drove, and have a 2.0 liter turbo four. The base price is ~$42K. Also, according to a couple articles I’ve seen, and CR’s survey results, the reliability of Stelvio may not be as terrible as rumored, at least for the more basic versions.

  14. JR Says:

    @7 The Ford loan was no secret. Most consider the loans for more efficient vehicles distinct from the bailout that GM and Chrysler took. I believe Ford used a big chunk of that loan to convert the Michigan Truck Plant (Expedition/Navigator) into the Michigan Assembly Plant (making Focus and C-Max vehicles). And now that plant has been converted back to Ranger and Bronco production, so apparently that investment by our government didn’t work out too well in the long run.

  15. cwolf Says:

    I, too, wish VW would make a small P/U the size of the S-10 or old Ranger. But Honda has a really nice one and probably more practical for most users, yet sales numbers are small. Ford had a 4 dr., small bed truck called the Sporttrack that seemed fitting for me, as well.
    The 289 was a good engine and would be perfect for a lot of smaller cars. I have fond memories of the Comit with a 289 and a reverberatory. The Four Tops sounded great! That was the stereo back then.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15. The Ridgeline is a good truck, for what most people actually use pickups for, but doesn’t appeal to typical pickup buyers. Also, it is kind of pricey, ~$34K for the cheapest version. I know someone who had a Sportrack. It was based on the then-current Explorer. It had a very short bed, but was probably comfortable for rear seat passengers, for a “smaller” pickup

    The people I know who constantly have their eyes open looking for a nice S-10 or Ranger, including a “handyman” who did some plumbing for me a few years ago, want a basic, small, regular cab, or at most, extended cab truck. Maybe they wouldn’t buy new, even if someone sold a basic, small truck like that, but I’d think there’d be a market for them new, at small car prices, as S-10s and Rangers sold for in the mid ’90s.

  17. joe Says:

    7

    Thanks for clearing the air, because many people have been mislead about this subject. I always thought it was hypocritical for Ford to act like they never got a loan bailout.
    At least, GM has settled their loan and Ford hasn’t, after all those years.

  18. Larry D. Says:

    A white Tesla S was driving the other way in my compound, took a b rief look, did not like the beak in its grille and the color was not the best suited for it. Not sure if it was a resident or a visitor.

    Saw a recent MW episode, they had a boxster spyder for almost $100k, 6 sp manual, the steering wheel had nothing on, not onebutton, minimalist design. Exterior very smooth design, interior not very luxurious.

    They also had a Lincoln Explorer Clone with a motor, total almost 500 HP and 630 Lbft. What a waste of good power and torque on a breadvan.

  19. cwolf Says:

    As far as I know, the largest motor in the Lincoln is a 3.5L, twin turbo,450 hp. It’s not too big for the size and weight, especially the Navigator. My in-law has one in his Explorer and it is zippy!

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 There’s a plug-in hybrid verson of Aviator, with 494 hp. Cars.com gave it a so-so review, though. For about $10K extra, you get only 21 miles of electric range, 3 mpg better mileage on gas, and a less refined powertrain compared to the standard 3.0 turbo powertrain.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    20 That was the version, starting at $78k. The base engine model started in the 50s. Not that I would care about either. The interior shown had some orange leather or substitute, no wood veneer visible, and a huge number of knobs, most chromed or fake-chromed. That 21 mile EV range is really pathetic, a decade after the prius Plug-in had such a short EV range, why did they even bother offering it.

  22. Larry D. Says:

    NASA-SPACE X had a couple programs on C-span today about some Spacex mission, but it really sounded like it was aimed at children (both the morning and the afternoon one) and was way too boring to watch.

    Still, if you are swimming around 11-noon tomorrow near Pensacola, don’t worry about sharks too much, worry more that some spacecraft falling from above will hit your head instead of splashing next to you. (the chance will be higher than the shark)

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    21. Some plug-in hybrids with limited plug-in range are, at least, effective hybrids, getting much better city mpg than the regular version. The Rav4 Prime both has 42 miles of plug-in range, but gets 10 mpg better combined mileage than the standard 4wd version.

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=41488&id=42377&id=42185&id=42793

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22. That little storm messed up the original plan to land it in the Atlantic off the coast of Cape Canaveral, so they are landing in the Gulf. In the ’70s, they weren’t precise enough to try anything like that. There would have been about a 50-50 chance that they’d hit terra firm, rather than water.

    I heard that this will be the first time since 1975 that a space ship with people will have splashed down. All of the Russian ones land on land.

  25. Larry D. Says:

    24 But all US spacecraft used to splash (with parachutes of course) even as eaarly as in the 60s.

    The cost savings Musk was able to achieve in SpaceX are even more impressive than the accuracy and ability to land the rockets back intact. It saved NASA tens of billions. In some cases he lowered the costs by 90% (!!)

    Back to the Ford-Lincoln Explorer, despite its 494 hp and 630 lbft, they said it did not want to drive fast, like the high HP Dodge cars, but reminded them more of a Bentley, which always has the ability to go faster. of course that breadvan was far less luxurious than any Bentley, and had far less passenger useful space than any Bentley Sedan.

  26. Larry D. Says:

    23 42 MPG is double the 21 of the Lincoln and if I liked the Rav4 I would never have to buy any gas, except for long trips, all my daily and even weekend shopping in MI would be 100% on electric. If I had it in the summer home, 42 miles would not be enough to make the 50ish mile round trip to downtown and back, but I would probably make it 80% on electric.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25. Exactly. All US space craft have always splashed down, except the shuttle, and some “near spacecraft” like the rocket powered “X” airplanes.

    In addition to the RAV4 Prime having useful range on plug-in power, and getting good mpg on gas for a lifted 4wd wagon, it is quick. C and D got a very good 5.4 second 0-60, and 14 second quarter mile time. Now, if they make a Camry wagon with that powertrain, they’d have the ultimate “do everything” car, quick, utilitarian, and efficient.

  28. stephen Says:

    Prefer to see GM offer an electric retrofit option for the old trucks vs an old ICE engine. Any reason they could not design a more fuel efficient small block or turboV4 that fits the same engine bay and is tuned to cope with the rest of the truck to maximise fuel use and reliability/torque.
    Trucks seem to have a perfect place for batteries-ie under the truck bed without compromising utility.

  29. stephen Says:

    The alfa is aimed at a two adults and 2 small kids setup and where the driver is having to give up on the performance car (M3/Porsche etc). Carbon brakes are amazing but remain eye-watering high in cost. Better to swap over in the summer and winter to top quality tyres. Porsche is trialing new discs that are not CF and are cheaper but offer better stopping power than regular discs. Hopefully 3-rd party parts makers will copy the design if the testing succeeds. If anyone knows about brakes its Porsche. If the Alfa sells well, then the new FCA/PSA merge could offer FCA a platform to offer a bigger X5 sized SUV. PSA are also at least doing some work in electrification. Nobody doing a performance plugin SUV at present…

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