AD #2906 – GM Moves Corvette Engineers to EV Programs; Tesla Targeted in Cyber Attack; Bollinger Reveals Commercial Van
August 28th, 2020 at 11:55am
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Runtime: 10:11
0:07 Tesla Targeted in Cyber Attack
0:42 Tesla Stock Reaches New High
1:03 Another UAW President Charged with Embezzlement
1:52 NHTSA Rolls Out New Recall App
3:15 Clarios Makes Lead Acid Batteries More Efficient
4:23 GM Moves Top Corvette Engineers to EV Programs
5:35 Ibeo To Supply Great Wall with Solid State Lidar
6:20 Bollinger Reveals New Commercial Electric Van
7:04 Mustang Mach-E Sounds Remixed into Music
7:40 Viewer Responses to Autonomous Parking
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TESLA TARGETED IN CYBER ATTACK
Back in June, Honda had to suspend production at a number of its plants around the globe because of a cyber-attack. And now Elon Musk says Tesla’s gigafactory in Nevada was the target of a “serious” cyber-attack. The Justice Department arrested a Russian national and charged him with conspiracy to intentionally cause damage to a computer with malware. The Russian national tried to recruit a Tesla employee with a $1 million bribe to install the malware. However, the employee alerted the FBI which led to the arrest and thwarted the attack.
TESLA STOCK REACHES NEW HIGH
But this should make Elon feel much better. Tesla’s stock price hit another record high yesterday, closing at $2,240 a share. Its stock has risen more than 420% this year and it’s now the most valuable car company in the world with a market cap of over $400 billion.
ANOTHER UAW PRESIDENT CHARGED WITH EMBEZZLEMENT
Things are going from bad to worse for the UAW. Another union president was charged in the federal government’s investigation into racketeering and bribery at the union and Fiat Chrysler. Former President Dennis Williams was charged with embezzling union funds and faces five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. So far, the probe has led to 14 convictions, including the prior president Gary Jones, who pled guilty to racketeering and embezzlement. We’re likely to see more charges. U.S. attorneys say they’re not done and the years-long investigation is still ongoing, including at the Ford Motor Company. Unless the union comes up with dramatic reforms by the end of the year, it’s possible the feds will take over the UAW.
NHTSA ROLLS OUT NEW RECALL APP
If you’d like to be kept up to date on vehicle recalls, there’s now an app for that. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is rolling out a new app called SaferCar, which alerts you to vehicle recalls as well as recalls for tires, car seats or trailers. Once you download the app, just scan or enter your VIN and add in any other equipment you want to track and then opt in for notifications. When the app discovers a recall, it will automatically send you an alert. The app is free and it’s available for both Apple and Android phones.
CLARIOS MAKES LEAD ACID BATTERIES MORE EFFICIENT
In the era of electric cars with lithium batteries, you don’t hear much about lead acid batteries. But Clarios, the battery company that used to be part of Johnson Controls, hasn’t forgotten about them. It developed a new generation lead acid battery that uses what they call AGM, or absorbent glass mat. That allows the electrolyte to be immobilized within a mat so it will not leak out even if the battery is damaged. Automakers are keenly interested because it cuts the weight of a lead acid battery by 2 kilos or almost four and a half pounds. It’s also smaller. And it will accept 3 to 5 times the charge of a regular battery without degrading over time. Did you know that even though BEVs are jam packed with lithium batteries, they still use lead acid batteries? Those batteries run the accessories and even the electric power steering, because when a BEV gets in an accident, the traction batteries are automatically disconnected for safety reasons. But you may still need power in the car, and that’s why BEVs use lead acid batteries.
GM MOVES TOP CORVETTE ENGINEERS TO EV PROGRAMS
There’s a fascinating story in today’s Detroit News about General Motors moving the top engineers from the Corvette program over to its electric vehicle programs. Those engineers will be working on GM’s electric SUVs and it sure sounds like there could be a Corvette SUV in the future. For those of you who still love the rumble of a V8, don’t worry; the V8 won’t go away. In fact, the C8 is going to get an overhead cam 5.5-liter flat plane crank V8 added as an option. It was derived from the C8.R–the racing version of the Corvette. And there’s talk of a hybrid version, called the Zora, that will have an electric motor powering the front wheels for a combined 1,000 horsepower. It’s named after the legendary Zora Arkus Duntov, who is considered the father of the Corvette. General Motors split its product development operations into two camps. One, called Global Product programs, keeps developing all internal combustion vehicles. The other, called Autonomous and Electric Vehicle Programs, does exactly what the name says, and that’s where part of the Corvette team is headed.
IBEO TO SUPPLY GREAT WALL WITH SOLID STATE LIDAR
Level 3 autonomy just took one step closer to reality. Ibeo developed a solid-state Lidar that it will start shipping to OEM customers in October, and the first one to get it will be Great Wall, the largest manufacturer of SUVs in China. ZF, which owns 40% of Ibeo, is making the Lidar units. They will first go on Great Wall’s premium SUV brand called Wey in 2022.
BOLLINGER REVEALS NEW COMMERCIAL ELECTRIC VAN
EV startup Bollinger Motors is expanding into new areas of the market. It introduced an all-electric, FWD van for the commercial segment. Called the Deliver-E, it will be available in a number of wheelbases, which puts it in vehicle Classes 2B through 5. Five battery sizes are available, ranging from 70-kWh to 210-kWh as is DC fast charging of up to 100-kW. One interesting aspect we noticed is that the rear track is much wider than the front. We think it’s probably to get the most cargo space possible, but we also wonder if it helps improve turning radius? What do you think?
MUSTANG MACH-E SOUNDS REMIXED INTO MUSIC
You might hear someone say the sound of a roaring engine is like music to their ears, but what about an electric car? Can it evoke that same kind of emotion? Well, it did for Detroit-based electronic musician Matthew Dear. He remixed a new song, called New Breed, using the sounds generated by the Mustang Mach-E. Dear says the digital propulsion sounds made by the Mach-E are cinematic and sci-fi and thinks the song takes passengers on a voyage. If you’d like to hear more, click the link in the transcript or description box and help support Matthew.
VIEWER RESPONSES TO AUTONOMOUS PARKING
We got some good feedback about Ford, Bosch and Bedrock’s self-parking solution. Dlwatib says, “Dunno why Ford is so convinced that autonomy can only come by modifying the environment. That’s never gonna work, guys… waaaaaaaay too expensive. We want our autonomous cars to drive anywhere we can go manually, no help from transponders or V2V crutches, no special highway lanes, no special garages. There is zero interest in braindead autonomy.” It’s a good point, but here’s how the companies explained it to us, they know that most cars will not be autonomous for years to come and so they developed tech that could be applied to many vehicles quickly. Bedrock says that parking 20% more cars in its structures would pay for the tech, as well as attract more customers who would want to use the convenience. However, Ian Reid thought of one scenario that would be less than ideal. He says, “Can you imagine the Nightmare and wait times if everyone is leaving an event at the same time? This is going to prove out to be ridiculous in the real world.” Ian, I can imagine it and it’s stressing me out just thinking about it. And lastly, Mike Mc Allister has the perfect application for self-parking technology, “What we need are self-parking full size pickups, or at least ones with four-wheel steer.” Mike it’s funny you bring this up, John and I were literally just talking about this exact same thing the other day and we could not agree with you more. Keep the comments coming, we’re always reading through them to see what you all think. And I know for me there’s been plenty of times where someone out there thought of something or had a perspective I hadn’t and it has helped me form an opinion on a subject. So, thank you.
But that’s a wrap for this week. I hope you have a kick butt weekend and we’ll see you right back here again on Monday.
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August 28th, 2020 at 12:15 pm
What do we think about the Bollinger Van? What can we think if no info at all about the most important variable, ITS PRICE, is given????? Any comments will be worthless speculation.
August 28th, 2020 at 12:16 pm
It’s striking that the Bollinger van is so smooth and apparently sleek (except for the front wheels sticking out of the sides with blunt fenders over them), while the Bollinger pickup looks like a Hummer in a box. They must think that delivery people want efficiency while truck people care only about the tough image.
What’s up with the AGM battery story? AGM batteries have been around for years. What is the new breakthrough?
August 28th, 2020 at 12:16 pm
Just checked the link, still no info at all about pricing. They say, though, ‘contact us for more info”. I strongly suggest you do.
August 28th, 2020 at 12:18 pm
AGM batteries are nothing new. My 2003 scooter came with one, which was great, lasting 12 or 13 years.
I’d think the wide rear track of the Bolinger van would be mainly to allow a wider area of low, flat floor between the wheel wells.
August 28th, 2020 at 12:22 pm
No doubt Martin Tripp (self described whistle blower) who is in Hungary is grinding his teeth. Of course the Russians were just trying to find what Elon called “Tesla pixie dust” that cause the stock price increase.
BTW, I took some TSLA profits and am using it to diversify my investments. I’ve also got a cache of cash to pickup some bargains.
August 28th, 2020 at 12:27 pm
AGM batteries are not new though some of the beneficial claims seem to be; lighter weight and charging characteristics look better than the AGM’s of today.
August 28th, 2020 at 12:33 pm
Regarding the reassignment of some Corvette team members, it makes sense if they are the electrical architecture engineers. As you may recall, one of the C8’s launch delays was ascribed to the development challenge of the new “connected” architecture. So, it makes sense to me to capture that expertise for the AV/EV work.
August 28th, 2020 at 1:06 pm
@Larry D.: since your comment shown below was posted late yesterday, people may have missed it.
“PS did you hear Musk is now worth 96 BILL $ US and still going higher? FInd how many arab NAtions (the entire nations) have a GDP which is higher than that. Juat for the fun of it in case Joe, Cwolf and Ziggy sees it.”
You compare net worth with Gross Domestic Product. I thought it was very funny when somebody who lectures us each day how dumb and uneducated we are makes an outright nonsensical and stupid comparison like that. I would not know how to calculate the net worth of a country. Just for fun I calculated the value of the Saudi oil reserve: 267 billion barrels at let’s assume an average price over the coming two decades of $50/barrel: $15 Trillion. You may want to read up on Macro Economics 101. Try to pay attention, read it multiple times if it is difficult for you, learn what GDP is, etc. We are all looking forward to your future posts once you actually understand what you write.
You do understand when you post in great detail about your parents’ Toyota Corolla in 1991, including their financing, but I may have to disappoint you: I could not care less. Others may be very interested to learn an old timer’s thirty years old stories about a Corolla, though.
Have a great weekend!
August 28th, 2020 at 1:32 pm
August 28th, 2020 at 1:45 pm
Zoe’s was more the “Godfather” of the Corvette. He wasn’t there for the birth but he made sure it got a soul.
August 28th, 2020 at 2:11 pm
Sorry but I don’t find the sound of any electric vehicle cinematic. They sound like a giant slot car. Maybe if the made giant baseball cards and had spoke wheels they’d sound better or like anything at all.
August 28th, 2020 at 2:23 pm
10, Tony, agree; I’ve always called Zora the ‘savior of the Corvette’. As far as the father of the Corvette, I give that accolade to Bill Mitchell.
August 28th, 2020 at 2:28 pm
the Bollinger van is a concept. Not even close to a production-ready vehicle. They still have to build the pickup…let’s see how that goes before we get all bunched up about the Deliver-E.
August 28th, 2020 at 2:37 pm
I went to the link for Ford’s Mustang E sound remix, and other than some Ford stuff for lyrics, I’m hearing the Steve Miller Band “Fly like an Eagle” (at least the intro). It goes down hill from there.
Hah! Maybe Ford got some Press for the Mustang E but not much else.
August 28th, 2020 at 2:46 pm
helped my neighbor with his dead battery in his pickup. the battery was so big it came with a built in handle,but was still a grunt to lift out and replace. Any weight savings I’m sure would be appreciated by many.
August 28th, 2020 at 2:53 pm
13 Exactly. What are we, 12 year olds to be teased with these cute concepts with little or no substance underneath and then asked what we think? What can we seriously think?
August 28th, 2020 at 2:55 pm
8 worthless nitpicking and ankle biting. How narrow is your head? You miss the forest for the trees. Go play with Joe (who believes that in the 21st century NASA ‘gave Musk the BLUEPRINTS” actual blueprints, blue paper and all, as if it was Graf Zeppelin and the Hindenburg Drawings… LOL.
August 28th, 2020 at 2:58 pm
8 PS silly person, how does YOUR net worth compare with the GDP of even the poorest Arab Nation? DO you see my frigging point now? ANd are you really THAT dumb, or are you acting?
August 28th, 2020 at 3:05 pm
@17: deflection
August 28th, 2020 at 3:06 pm
@18, continues to compare net worth with GDP, so still an ignorant.
August 28th, 2020 at 3:09 pm
15 They could cut battery weight to half or less with with lithium batteries, but maybe they would still cost more than lead acid. Lead acid car batteries last a lot longer than they used to. The one in my 2010 Mini lasted almost 10 years. In the 1960s, three years was about it. A lot of the increase in battery life might be that today’s cars start quickly, so the battery is always near full charge, which is what lead acid batteries like.
August 28th, 2020 at 3:17 pm
@18, let me help you understand it: a Chevrolet Cruze has 140 HP, a Cadillac Escalade has a 14 MPG fuel consumption. So the Chevrolet Cruze is ten times better than an Escalade, right?
August 28th, 2020 at 3:28 pm
Wim, I always assessed my financial security by my net worth. Income is only a partial barometer as it does not account for debt. Ultimately, I declared success when my net worth exceeded my vision for spending it in my lifetime. My kids will be very thankful benefactors in the distant future.
As to the finances of nations, GDP is an annual metric of output (not an assessment of amassed worth). The closest personal finance metric may be AGI. Even that is a stretch. So, I completely agree with your argument about not comparing net worth with GDP.
August 28th, 2020 at 3:37 pm
@23: thank you Drew, we are aligned. Following
Larry’s “logic” TESLA with its $412 BB market cap would be more or less equal to Royal Dutch Shell with its $350BB/yr revenues.
In reality Royal Dutch Shell has a $115 BB market cap, a quarter of TESLA’s. Ah well, Larry will probably continue to ignore the facts and come back with a question about my net worth compared to the GDP of Kuwait. I have said it before: a mentally unstable airhead.
August 28th, 2020 at 3:52 pm
Market cap is flimsy metric as it is based on “Wall Street” stock values. BTW, I struggled not to vomit when writing that… as stock values are only partially based on the performance of the company. One of the factors has nothing to company performance… psychology of the masses. For Elon, the bulls have been running. I think Bob was wise to lock-in some his profits from the run-up.
IMHO, I think Wall Street underestimates brick & mortar, IP, and other boring attributes of corporate finances. Why? Brokers make money when we buy and sell. So, brokers love volatility and overlook the long term stabilized factors. They privately love hysteria.
August 28th, 2020 at 3:57 pm
25. Market cap is based mainly on gambling, some by “professionals,” some not.
August 28th, 2020 at 4:17 pm
Enron had a market cap as high as ~70B.
August 28th, 2020 at 8:00 pm
I too wish reviews would lead off with ‘Demo’ for press car reviews or ‘Production’ for those with a Monroney sticker. The press cars are like the old Beta software releases to trick buyers to wait.
August 28th, 2020 at 11:09 pm
Front drive vans should be the ultimate “easy to do” EVs. If you’d remove the exhaust system and gas tank from my 1989 short WB Dodge Caravan, there would probably be room for 100 kWh of batteries underneath, without intruding into the floor at all. It would need stiffer springs, though.
August 29th, 2020 at 10:23 am
While I was doing some work, I had the TV on and they had their weekly auto and bike show on the “PBS” equivalent channel here. While some of the models were interesting, the overall show was utterly RIDICULOUS in the sense that they always praised everything about all the models, never pointing out a weakness, and calling mid- or low-priced models like Subarus “Luxury Cars”. they kept it up calling the Renault Clio’s interior (the fat hatch looks like a clone of the Versa or the Leaf in non-EV form)as having ‘the best materials’ while these were ugly, hard plastics. It was worse than >MOTORWEEK” on our PBS, and that says a LOT.
Models shown: A Polo “R” with 150 HP looked good in sharp bright silver exterior but was a sea of black plastics and fabrics inside. It looked like a GOlf and was sure bigger and heavier than the GOlf II I drove all around German for 6,000 km back in summer 88 (two separate three day weekend rentals)
The Clio, has been around 30 years and put on a ton of weight and size. Best with a diesel and a 6 sp manual and an MPG of 5 lt per 100 km, if you can stand the interior.
There was a bigger, SUVish, ungainly Citroen CUV which they also praised to high heaven, while the efffing thing was plain UGLY. (the French school of auto design).
They had a Honda 650 Motorcycle, did not look good to me but I guess performed well, plus another I forget.
That tiny Polo R, thanks to a 24% VAT tax, sold for 21600 Euros, which is far more than $25k with options. For that money, I bought TWO excellent, beautiful inside and out E class diesels, for $10,500 and $11,000 respectively, immaculate, with 3 and 6 months free warranty respectively. That left me with $3,500 for a couple dinners accompanied by some serious $1,500 wines each.
August 29th, 2020 at 12:02 pm
“Motorweek” does a real nice job in their reviews. What is required is to listen very closely for something they don’t particularly care for (admittedly, their criticisms are subtle). I like their news segment, and used to like the Pat Goss segment, (but I think Pat has run out of interesting topics as they’re not very good lately).
August 29th, 2020 at 12:30 pm
26 NONSENSE!!!!!! Market cap is, as I have stated 10,000 TIMES, and as EVERY FRIGGING TOP RANKED BUSINESS SCHOOL Will tell you (but fall on deaf ears) is NOT a measure of ANYTHING CURRENT in a company, BUT of INVESTOR EXPECTATIONS of the company’s Future profitability. There is NO STUPID GAMBLING involved. This is like saying all MDs are EFFING QUACKS. Just because you don’t agree with the market cap of a company does NOT mean it does not reflect the company’s future.
AGAIN do not just talk about TESLA and the UTTERLY different case of ENRON (a deliberate insult to the bright engineers who advanced the state of the art at TESLA to compare them with 100% high risk speculators at ENRON. TESLA is the exavt opposite, Musk has been ranting and raving against the shorters when his company was still struggling.)
AGAIN, COMPARE TESLA’s cap with APPLE’s GOOGLE’s FACEBOOKS, TWITTER, AMAZON, MICROSOFT. ALL, in your book, are hugely overvalued. Some of them make frivolous, silly products, but the STUPID Apple Phone, like apple computers, where you can buy an almost identical competitor for much less, make much less sense than TESLA, for whose excellent products the rivals are FAR inferior.
the lack of learning in this forum makes it less and less enjoyable to waste my time repeating that 1+1=2 10,000 times.
August 29th, 2020 at 12:45 pm
32. Yes, you’ve stated that 10,000 times, but the fact remains that market cap is highly related to what is, basically, gambling. In September of 2000, Enron had a market cap of about $90B, about $135B in today’s. money. 15 months later, it was zero. That is a case where the gamblers lost. No, I don’t expect Tesla to do that, but whatever you say, buying the stock at today’s prices is highly speculative.
Amazon is clearly benefitting from covid, as more people than ever are ordering stuff, rather than going to stores. I am among those people. As far as Facebook and Twitter, it’s anyone’s guess where they will be a few years from now.
August 29th, 2020 at 1:42 pm
Larry D
I hate to tell you this, because I don’t want to hurt your feelings. What GM did with the C8 Corvette, GM will do with the Cadillac Lyriq. (I know you’ll say the C8 stinks, but you can not ignore the awards and praises it’s getting). Now that GM is serious designing EV’s, the top engineer at GM will work on them. GM could have done this years ago, but they wanted a superior battery which they now have.
It’s too bad your Almighty Tesla will now have some true competition. Tesla having nothing but EV’s to fall back on during bad times, they could easily find themselves in a bind. GM on the other hand will still have many products with ICE and not Tesla.
August 29th, 2020 at 2:36 pm
31 Sorry, but Autoweek is an AWFUL show. The only reason I endure watching it is that I really am interested in the subject matter. Goss is not the worst of the staff, maybe the best of a really weak and lame bunch, but the guy is really ANAL. If you did everything he warns you to do maintaining your car, you would be DESTITUTE. (plus you would have lost tons of time doing it). I have friends who take far better care of their cars than I do, but even they find him RIDICULOUS.
ANd it gets worse. Apparently there are restrictions imposed on the show to hire all kinds of auto-illiterate town criers just because PBS dictates they have that many women or this or that group. The women on the show give off the impression that they do not know a damned thing about cars.
But the worst of all is this idiot who does the show, and has this headache- causing voice (not to me, I never had headaches in my entire life), saying little nothings and NEVER taking ANY maker to task for the crap they produce.
AN AWFUL show.
August 29th, 2020 at 2:39 pm
34 HAHAHAHAHA!!! You utter fool, you keep addressing me, and keep making a total fool of yourself. Go out and play, ignoramus. Waste of my time.
You utter fool, EVEN if Lyriq is not a total failure, IT IS NOT A MASS MARKET MODEL, they will only sell a few, competing with other LOSERS like AUDI and JAG. Musk should not lose ONE SECOND of sleep with those idiots. I do NOT expect you to understand ONE IOTA of what I am saying, AND I am NOT a special needs teacher to have the patience, EVEN if you paid me handsomely, to explain anything to you. Go eat some … ‘blueprints’.
August 29th, 2020 at 4:21 pm
I keep wishing the infamous Mr D would stop SCREAMING in his posts, & go start his own website blog so he can preach his bs to the three or so followers that sign up for his site.
Hopefully leaving the polite people to follow John & Sean at Autoline Daily.
Have a good weekend to all.
August 29th, 2020 at 6:01 pm
36
Your must memory must be bad because you are the one who keeps using my name when I’m not even on the forum. Some commentators even have told you to cool it along with other negatives addressed at you. You are nothing but a sophomania and need help.
I bet because of you many commentators are not coming here out of fear of being put down by a sophomania.
August 30th, 2020 at 6:33 am
Just like autopilot in planes, pilots let the autopilot work on the boring parts of the flight and take over when more nuanced control is required. So autonomous driving will be the norm on highways where high speed, smaller distances between cars is preferable, longer trips also benefit. Lets be honest, we’re not good at parking even with sensor-cam assist. Much better to get out at the door of your destination and let the car go off and park and pick you up. It can then fit in tighter spacing, parked correctly and is not distracted.
August 30th, 2020 at 3:43 pm
Piles Peak was this weekend. I hope you’all can put together a program or story about it.
August 30th, 2020 at 3:43 pm
Pilkes Peak
August 30th, 2020 at 6:05 pm
Pike’s Peak interview of the fastest Tesla up the mountain (see web link.)
Bob Wilson
August 30th, 2020 at 7:46 pm
42. That is pretty wild. That road, where you could drop off a couple thousand feet, would be a little scary at 30 mph, never mind driving it for time near the limit of traction on the curves.
He’d get some charge back in the batteries driving back down. It would be interesting to know what percentage of the charge used for the climb would be recovered.
August 30th, 2020 at 10:55 pm
TFL group did that test and I remember 80% but they drive up tourist style. On the way down at the brake checkpoint, they were cool.
August 31st, 2020 at 5:47 am
The web link is to the TFL Cars, 18 min, YouTube. I recommend playing it at 1.5 times speed. A ‘stretch’, it was an attempt to compare and contrast a hydrogen fuel cell vs Tesla Model 3 on Pike’s Peak. Good production but the story line remains predictable.
August 31st, 2020 at 7:44 am
39) I am amazed by the amount of people that can’t park with all the assist features in their cars. Walking through any Kroger parking lot makes me concerned about who I am sharing the road with LOL.
I was watching a youtube video of a trans am car show. There was a guy backing his trans am into a spot and was using a spotter like he was backing in a 5th wheel trailer. I was perplexed that this person couldn’t back up a 1978 trans am without assist but there it was. I figure he is a driver of one of the crookedly parked vehicles I see at Kroger LOL
August 31st, 2020 at 8:26 am
32 If the lack of learning on this forum makes it unenjoyable for you I do have the perfect solution for you.. You could simply leave the forum. Beside the fact that most of the people on here are quite smart and could actually teach you a few things if you’d let your ego take a break. Just a suggestion.
34 I agree that that Cadillac very well may finally taking EVs serious. Well I guess I wouldn’t say they weren’t serious they just didn’t have the right combination to grab sales. This Lyriq should make Tesla nervous as it will be a direct shot at the Model S which is where Tesla started. So much like Tesla I expect GM will be able to turn what they learn from Lyriq into a mass market car and go after the Model 3. No the Lyriq isn’t going after the Model 3 but don’t be surprised if the next EV from GM doesn’t.
August 31st, 2020 at 8:34 am
45. Maybe I missed something, but did they say where the guy gassed up the fuel cell car? Did they truck the car in from California with a full tank of gas?
44. If the Tesla recovers 80%, even in “tourist” driving, that’s impressive. Probably the energy usage going up the mountain would be about 5 times as much in “racing” mode, as the battery conversion efficiency, the motors, and the electronics are probably less efficient under those conditions. Also, there would be the aero drag at high speed, but there’d be a lot less than normal, at the high elevation.