AD #2907 – Toyota Launches Yaris Cross; NHTSA Delays Quiet Car Mandate; Global Car Sales Down 25%

August 31st, 2020 at 11:50am

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Runtime: 7:53

0:07 Global Car Sales Down by A Quarter
0:52 Analysts Predict Longer Product Cycles
1:43 Toyota Launches Yaris Cross
3:19 Honda & Toyota Partner on Mobile Power System
4:14 NHTSA Delays Quiet Car Mandate
5:10 Jeep Teases New Wagoneer
5:51 VW Offers Online Shopping for ID.4
6:37 Continental Faces Its Dark Past

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27 Comments to “AD #2907 – Toyota Launches Yaris Cross; NHTSA Delays Quiet Car Mandate; Global Car Sales Down 25%”

  1. Larry D. Says:

    Toyota is wise to sell its IDIOTIC Nth crossover the YARIS of all wimpy vehicles ONLY in Japan and Europe, and NOT in the US where it would have BOMBED just as its discontinued parent model, the pathetic Yaris, which was NEVER DESIGNED with the needs of the AMERICAN consumer in mind.

    but even in Japan and Europe, it was hardly worth the effort and expense, it will not sell well. Toyota has ALREADY better crosses whose sales the stupid Yaris will CANNIBalize.

    Automakers, do you hear??? You need MUCH FEWER, better models, NOT more pathetic models.

  2. Rey Says:

    Old Auto Co. S are shrinking, their stocks are SINKING , Tesla? It is growing at an astounding pace, almost at the pace of the TSLA Stock.

  3. Rey Says:

    Old Auto Co. S are shrinking, their stocks are SINKING , Tesla? It is growing at an astounding pace, almost at the pace of the TSLA Stock.

  4. Rey Says:

    Looks like some Wall Street Analysts were right about Tesla , it is positioned to weather the Covid pandemic the best.

  5. Rey Says:

    Aug 31,2020 TSLA @ $476

  6. Rey Says:

    $476×5=$2380 Tsla -Elons other Rocketships.

  7. Albemarle Says:

    One wonders what triggered Continental to finally, 80 years later, face up to its actions. If they didn’t want to uncover it for decades, the conclusion I reach is that they feel enough time has passed that the information won’t hurt the company’s business. Not noble, just business.

  8. Drew Says:

    Regarding the Quiet Car regulation, never underestimate NHTSA’s ability to deviate from standards in other parts of the world and make the requirements more convoluted. The number of speakers, pitch changes, etc. have complicated a seemingly simple requirement. Think about the speakers. They need to be packaged and weather-proof.

  9. Roger Says:

    On the quiet car mandate, what sounds will they produce? How about the tunes from a ice cream truck.

  10. Ziggy Says:

    Just noticed that the Continental ‘horse’ looks a lot like the prancing horse that Ferrari uses for it’s symbol, anyone know of any conflict between the two companies using the same horse symbol? Thanks.

  11. Larry D. Says:

    I welcome the new Wagoneer, there seems there a lot of idiots with bad taste who somehow have the $ to waste on ridiculously priced Escalades and Navigators. Maybe this segment needs some more COMPETITION to bring those lofty prices and profits DOWN.

  12. Larry D. Says:

    11 today’s tease of the wagoneer was 100% worthless, but who cares? The real deal will be unveiled just 3 days from now.


    Maybe the electric cars could just simply turn on the battery cooling or AC fans when the cars are below 19MPH. Fan roar is about the only noise at those speeds in my daily driver.

  14. JoeS Says:

    Quiet car mandate – Quite some time ago someone on this list suggested that EVs sound like the Jetsons flying car. Perfect!

  15. JR Says:

    @9 I have one of these noise generating systems on an Escape HEV. The sound seems to perfectly match the sound of gravel stuck between the brake rotor and shields (not a squeal, just a rubbing sound). It would not have been my first choice, as it sounds like something is wrong with the car. I would have thought a simulated electric motor sound (I’m thinking something like an electric golf cart noise) would have been better. Everyone always asks me what is wrong with my car, as it is quite loud, even from inside the cabin with the windows up. The forward speaker isn’t as bad, it’s mainly the reverse that is loud inside.

  16. kevin a Says:

    Larry, You already admitted you would never buy a new car. How could you possibly know what would sell to people who do buy new? As companies group their products around platform component sets, the cost of a new body style variant declines. Let Toyota experiment. They might develop something new and interesting.

  17. Bob Wilson Says:

    DIck Lee of Value Innovation (see John’s YouTube interview web link) has done something brilliant. Instead of looking in the usual forums and surveys, he scrapes opinions about cars from the Twitter fire-hose. There is still the tricky part of defining the search lexical terms but his example about the Polestar 2 key fob is brilliant.

    The interview is ~15 minutes but playing it back faster makes it worth watching. Well done John McElroy.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17. From what I could find, the Polestar 2 doesn’t have a key fob. It uses your phone. What is wrong with that, for most people, as long as it works reliably?

  19. Bob Wilson Says:

    18 – I was recounting what I saw in YouTube video and have no interest in the Polestar 2. However, my Tesla Model 3 has three options: (1) RFID card; (2) iPhone, and; (3) extra cost key fob.

    The RFID card is reliable but no optional functions. The iPhone works mostly and controls and reports status of the car but limited to Bluetooth range and cell data. Because the iPhone works ‘good enough,’ I’ve not bought the optional key fob. Speculation, the Dick Lee report may be smart phone communication and app issues that I’ve seen with my Model 3 and iPhone.

    What impressed me is using the Twitter stream to find information owners and users are sharing. It is not dependent on a user survey or interview. For example, recently J.D. Powers complained that Tesla would not give them access to owners in 15 states. Dick Lee’s approach would not require a survey and could give more timely feedback on the good and bad areas of Tesla ownership … at least for the Twitter users (I am not a Twitter fan.)

  20. Larry D. Says:

    19 Ten years from now, the vast majority of people will have no clue that Polestar ever existed. AS I said, the CHinese are not stupid, at some point the owners of Volvo will cut their losses, and the hell with their ego.

  21. Sean Wagner Says:

    @17 Thank you for the heads up re. Dick Lee! Very interesting interview.

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 Will your car work with an android phone, or only with an iPhone?

  23. Bob Wilson Says:

    My Model 3 works with both iPhone and Android.

  24. cwolf Says:

    If you dont have a key fob and only use your phone, how can others borrow your car if needed, like a relative or service department. You can’t give them your phone!

  25. Lambo2015 Says:

    8 I doubt finding a speaker that can be outside the car is much of a problem. Many marine and RV applications have exterior speakers and commercial trucks and busses have been using the annoying back-up beep speaker in horrible environments when placed on a commercial dump truck or garbage truck. I’m not sure what the hold up is but if they made it mandatory it would be available now. One of the selling points of an EV is how quiet they are and having to add sound even if it is only at low speed is counterproductive. I’m guessing they are trying to develop a sound that is heard from the outside but not necessarily from the inside.

  26. Lambo2015 Says:

    9 If I was able to pick the sound and I owned an EV I would go for something like the old Jetsons cartoon car. Or the burbling sound that came from chitty chitty bang bang.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    If I have a car with the noise, and it invades the cabin much, I’d be inclined to find some wires to clip.