AD #2913 – Land Rover Defender Updated; Genesis Unveils New G70; GM Develops Nearly Wire Free Battery System

September 9th, 2020 at 11:57am

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Runtime: 7:20

0:07 GM Develops Nearly Wire Free Battery System
1:02 More Drivers Are Speeding
2:17 Land Rover Updates the Defender
3:26 Volkswagen Teases New Compact SUV
3:45 Skoda Expands Mobility Offerings
4:31 Genesis Unveils New G70
5:21 BASF Introduces More Environmentally Friendly Paint
6:10 Skoda Creates Biodegradable Wrapping

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35 Comments to “AD #2913 – Land Rover Defender Updated; Genesis Unveils New G70; GM Develops Nearly Wire Free Battery System”

  1. Larry D. Says:

    No story about 0.5% market share VOlvo today. I am SO disappointed. But there is light at the end of the tunnel, there IS a story about GENESIS, whose dismal sales record is even worse than VOlvos. WHat is it, 0.1% in the US??

  2. Don Sherman Says:

    “Wireless Free” is redundant. Take your pick between Wireless or Wire Free.

  3. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    2) I was thinking that also LOL. I had to read the headline a couple of times as my brain was trying to figure out the meaning to “wireless free”.

  4. Sean McElroy Says:

    #2 & #3 – Thanks for catching that. We must have been using our brainless free brain cells.

  5. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    4) The perfect response. Thanks for the moment of levity today.

  6. Drew Says:

    I recognize one motivation for speeding… to avoid a COVID-questionable hotel stay if the destination is a couple of hours further away than a normal day’s drive. I avoided the speeding temptation last March in my 1500 mile return home from Marco by leaving at 4:00 AM, stopping only for fuel, and enjoying jam-free Sunday traffic. We had only 15 minutes off the road for 2 fuel stops.

    I like the new Genesis design. The G70 is functionally and aesthetically motivating, although it’s rear seat space limits it’s market potential.

    Relative to the LR Defender, does anyone else see some Bronco similarities? Similar to the Ford Fusion aping Auston Martin, I think the Bronco designers may have found inspiration from the Defender.

  7. MJB Says:

    Really liking the new Genesis design language.

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    VW adding another SUV? big surprise. Okay not really but will the maybe offer a small pick-up on the same platform? That would be in a class all its own.

    Skoda seems to be on the right track offering all those options on the same app. Seems like that would make it much easier than having to maintain the 5 or 6 apps to utilize all the available transportation options. Only down side to that would be users can see much easier how much they spend in total using mobility services which may or may not justify a vehicle purchase.

    I know I said it when the Bronco was introduced but that Land Rover sure does look similar to the new Bronco.

  9. Lambo2015 Says:

    6 Saw we posted about the same time but yes I see it too. (about the Brono/Defender

  10. bradley cross Says:

    The G70 looks great. With some zero down leases here on the current model around $399 and maintenance included could be a cheap deal.

    But of course the GV70 is the vehicle that matters.

  11. Jon Says:

    Gm is on an ev roll. Kudos to GM .

    Genesis evolution of G70 sedan is extremely impressive.

    Well done Genesis.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    My friend with the Genesis G80 likes the looks of the new one, but even though he normally trades cars frequently, he plans to keep the old one for a while, because he likes the naturally aspirated V6.

    Chrysler was many years ahead of their time in the ’80s. When I got my 1989 Dodge Caravan, Chrysler used a lot of turbo 4s as an alternative to a 6 cylinder engine. Now everyone does that.

  13. Larry D. Says:

    11 Well done, p0.01% market share. Well done, Huyndai-Kia, with 15 FAILED attempts in selling a ‘luxury’ car in the DEMANDING US market.

    Get REal.

    PS I have seen the G80. The interior is poor, really ‘industrial’, like the one you find in the recent, lesser interiors of 3 Series.

    Anyway, don’t give up, tomorrow there will be a brand new VOlvo 0.5% market shsre story, and if yiu are lucky, another Jag-Land ROver story (together, with all their models, less than 1% market share), and, like today, NO 14% market share TOYOTA story.

  14. Ziggy Says:

    Did GM mention anything about how they are going to protect these wireless battery management systems from hacking?

  15. Wim van Acker Says:

    @1, 13: TESLA market share is below 2%, has been close to zero for many years. I am glad we have been watching news here about the company.

    Since you continue to post about how horrible the programming is, two posts today alone, how about stopping to watch it?

    Or at least refrain from posting poorly written baseless nonsense, irrelevant babbling about your t.v. show, your stock portfolio, the Toyota Corolla of your parents, your political “views”, the generations of the best students you have educated at the best universities. Who subsequently are described as terrible engineers when they graduate from wise Larry and join GM. Many others have suggested you to quit, you have indicated that you are close to done with the show and us dumb viewers, so I would say: tomorrow is a great day to stop watching. Thanks in advance on behalf of all of us. And have a great life. Hopefully others love to hang out with you, so you do not need us.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The Kia Stinger, Genesis G80, Tesla Model 3, Chevy Blazer, and Volvo XC40 are tied at the top rating in one CR category, owner satisfaction. That seems to indicate not everyone has the same tastes in vehicles.

  17. Drew Says:

    @15 – You forgot to mention that Professor-Smarter-Than-the-Rest-of-Us-with-a-Broken-Caps-Lock-Key doesn’t walk the talk. Does he buy what he professes? Nope. He buys used, dirty MBs I can only assume he has access to a cheap mechanic (son-in-Law or student).

  18. Wim van Acker Says:

    @17: You would expect somebody who hijacks a forum for enthusiasts for the automotive industry to drive an interesting car, in one way or the other. The Dow Jones Index is up 1.87% today, so he made $187,000 today. He could buy a good car of today’s profit. Maybe that would turn him from an old, angry, aggressive man into a happy, emotionally stable person.

  19. JoeS Says:

    18. He would still be an old, angry, aggressive man when he found that his bargain Rolls’ oil change costs $650. But he would love the wood in the interior

  20. ArtG Says:

    15. If he talks to everyone the way he does here, who would want to hang out with him? He seems like the usual Internet bully with a pathetic personal life, emboldened by the anonymity.

  21. Drew Says:

    @20 – You nailed it.

  22. cwolf Says:

    Hey all! Let’s be understanding. Larry is just in love with himself and wants to do you a favor by making you want to come around to his way of reasoning and logic. He has over 10 million bucks so he must be better than everyone!
    Forget about his profession is not that well paid, can’t afford a house and can’t afford new luxury cars with wood trim. He is a very wealthy genius but just prefers the simpler life and to be like us.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I understand his living in a condo; there are definitely positives to that. I can even understand his driving the old Benzes, but the nastiness, and ridicule of everything and anything that is not “his thing” is too much, and getting very old.

    I certainly present opinions here, but I don’t think this is a place to insult people because of what cars they drive, and it is certainly out to line to constantly insult the Autoline hosts, for the topics they discuss in the shows. Also, is it the place to brag about how much money you have? I don’t think so.

  24. Drew Says:

    Dollars do not correlate with intelligence… just look at the 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. resident (and this statement can be made about several of its past residents).

  25. Bob Wilson Says:

    Just watched the Lucid Air reveal. Very nice car that pretty well ticks all the major technical points.

  26. Larry D. Says:

    25 Any word about its PRICE, assuming all you said is right, it will NEVER make it if it is not priced competitively, like the Model 3 AND the Model S are, for what they offer.

    People will NOT buy lots of $40,000 bolts and $35,000 Leafs, and HAVE not. Because they do NOT offer you what a car at that price should.

    AND that is ALL that MATTERS, folks.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    80K-169K

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/9/21429319/lucid-motors-air-electric-sedan-price-specs-range-reveal

  28. Lambo2015 Says:

    27 Bottom line is EVs are just not competitive due to price and the only way to come even close is to go after the very profitable Truck or luxury car market. Its much easier to build a 1000 HP EV than a ICE so that’s an advantage worth exploiting. They are banking on the fact that these buyers will overlook all the other shortcomings of an EV to own a 1000HP luxury car. Which for the type of driving most of these vehicles will see they will probably work out just fine. Personally if I spent 80k+ on a luxury vehicle I would certainly expect to take it on trips. Which that alone would make me steer clear of Lucid or any other EV for now.

    So what does this all mean for the EV market? The vehicles that are being built now are for an even smaller demographic than the general public. Which is why I keep saying we are years away from seeing EVs take a decent percentage of US sales. China has the right idea with the little $5000-$6000 EV that has a top speed of 62mph. It takes advantage of what EVs are good at and that’s inner city commuting. Sadly if they sold that here in the states you would have some fool try and take it on the interstate proving its not a typical car. The super low price would make them ideal for the inner city dwellers or kids that just need transportation back and fourth to school or their part time job. They could make a very good second car and the price of a used 8 year old car I could see people consider them. That is probably the only way they will start to get volume of sales. The 80k luxury car or truck isn’t going to do it.

  29. Larry D. Says:

    27 So they will compete with the Taycan and the Taycan “Turbo” for their huge market? LOL.

  30. Larry D. Says:

    These people do not act as engineers. A REAL engineer does not only have to make a superior product at ANY cost, buy should be able to produce it AND sell it at a price the consumer is willing to pay for that product.

  31. Larry D. Says:

    30 and sustainably so, which means, they can lose some $ initially, BUT steady state they should be able to make a PROFIT, and NOT, like GM or Nissan, let the suckers who buy their trucks and SUVs pay for it (as LUTZ brazenly admitted on AAH)

  32. Larry D. Says:

    27 I looked at the link and the base version has no range or hp at $80k, but the next one at $95k has, and price and performance wise it can compete with the Model S, not the much much cheaper 3 and performance 3. Is it as large and roomy as the Model S? Even if it is, it is competing in a small segment, units-wise.

    COnclusion, no Lucid model, nor the “air” nor the “Osama” ( could not resist, being owned 67% by the Saudis) can compete with the base $37k Model 3, where most of the sales are.

  33. Larry D. Says:

    Looked at the link once more but they surprisingly do not reveal even the basic 3 dimensions of the Lucid. Does not look as big as the Model S in the drawings. If it is Model 3 sized at 3 times the price, they have a (yet another) problem.

  34. Larry D. Says:

    28 true for most BEVs Except for the only 3 Series Rival that succeeded, the Model 3, which starts at $37k and had killed the 3 Series and was the major contributor of the well over 1 million Tesla models sold so far. And according to the detailed analysis of the Munro outfit, it makes a profit.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The Lucid is about the same size as the Tesla S and Porsche Taycan. It looks like the Lucid is a sedan, rather than being a much more utilitarian hatchback like the other two.

    https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2021-lucid-air-tesla-model-s-porsche-taycan-comparison/