AD #3003 – MINI Cooper Updates; Kia Drops K900 & Cadenza; Elon Musk Looking at Big Payday

January 27th, 2021 at 12:08pm

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Runtime: 11:16

0:08 EV Startup Stock Prices Jump After Biden Announcement
1:10 VW Partners to Build Yacht Based on MEB Platform
2:05 Elon Musk Looking at Big Payday
2:41 JLR Appoints Designer to Board of Management
4:24 Kia Drops K900 & Cadenza from U.S. Lineup
4:53 GMC Hummer EV Joins Extreme E Racing Series
5:31 MINI Updates Cooper Hardtop & Convertible
8:16 EU Creates Second Battery Cell Alliance
8:49 Sneak Peek into Lucid’s Assembly Plant
9:36 GM Production Not Hurt by Chip Shortage
10:16 Ominous Sign for Opel?

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28 Comments to “AD #3003 – MINI Cooper Updates; Kia Drops K900 & Cadenza; Elon Musk Looking at Big Payday”

  1. Buzzerd Says:

    I’m surprised GM still makes the Savana. That chassis has been around the block a few times.

  2. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I still see what look like fairly new airport and rental car agency shuttle buses made from Savana/Express chassis.

    Interestingly, considering the sales numbers, I know two people with Kia Cadenzas. Both were bought used, 2-3 years old at very good prices. They are actually pretty nice cars, with V6 engines, direct competitors with Toyota Avalon.

  3. Kevin A Says:

    It’s probably just a stereotype, but aren’t most of the government vehicle purchases black Chevy Suburbans? Is a BEV Suburban planned or should we expect Chevy to loose a lot of business there. I would imagine Ford could easily make BEV Ford Expeditions to fill the gap.

  4. Lex Says:

    Why can VW partner with a yacht builder that incorporates solar panels it’s yachts, but why can’t VW incorporate solar panels on it’s vehicles?

    Which brands will be under the Stellantis umbrella?

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 The government vehicles I see most often are at Kennedy Space Center and Cape Canaveral Air Force Base. There are sedans, pickups, vans, and some SUVs, most of them “Detroit 3″ brands. The predominant color seems to be white. When the sedans are replaced, they won’t have much to choose from, if they want to stay with “Detroit” brands. Maybe there will be Tesla Model 3s, with the EV push.

  6. Kevin A Says:

    Sean, just out of curiosity, with Tesla stock so high, if Tesla were to buy Lucid with new shares in an all share deal, what percent dilution would Tesla see? I’m just wondering if this could be a relatively cheap and easy way for Tesla to eliminate a competitor, while gaining a new model (the Model L) and a new factory. Just asking.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 Solar panels on vehicles are mostly for show. They produce about 20 watts per square foot in bright sunlight. That doesn’t go very far at powering a car, though would help a little with charging the batteries.

    It will be interesting to see what brands survive the Stellantis thing. For now, it’s Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, Ram, Peugeot, Citroen, DS, Vauxhall, Opel(maybe), Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Maserati, Lancia, and maybe a European truck brand or two.

  8. GM Veteran Says:

    6 Since Lucid is not a public company (yet), it would be difficult for Tesla to take them over unless Lucid approved it. And since the founder is a former head of engineering at Tesla, I think he has something to prove. I don’t see that happening, but its interesting to think about.

  9. GM Veteran Says:

    Can’t see them eliminating Opel. Its their 2nd or 3rd biggest seller. And since Vauxhall models are just rebadged versions of Opels, it appears that this is just a mistake on the part of their web staff.

    I would have to say that Lancia is at the top of the “Stellantis brands that could disappear” list. I think they only sell one model now, and only in a couple of countries. Its old, and I have not heard of any new models or updates slated for this brand.

  10. GM Veteran Says:

    On the topic of the high prices of EVs, I think its very interesting that the price of the EV version of the Mini Cooper falls below the midpoint of all Mini Cooper models. Its nice to see that the EV version is not the most expensive version of the car. More of this and people may start to realize that EVs are getting more affordable. Or, that ICE models have had an awful lot of price increases!

  11. Roger Says:

    Under the category of >No big surprise, Kia drops the K900. From day one you had to ask yourself who in their right mind would shell out $60K+ for a ‘Kia’ sedan when you can get into a BMW / Mercedes / Lincoln or the likes for that kind of money?

  12. Scott-in-Cleveland Says:

    I’d rather have a Genesis G90 than a Kia K900 any day.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 The Mini EV has a small battery, and range of only 108 EPA miles, thus its low price. It would be a fun city car for those who can charge it at home, but limited in usefulness overall.

    9 As new Opels and Vauxhalls appear, most will be, basically, badge engineered Peugeots. Still, is seems that more brands result in more sales. That’s why GM keeps GMC. In many, or most years, Silverado + Sierra sales exceed F-Series sales. If GM thought Chevy would get all the GMC sales if they dropped the brand, they would do that in a heartbeat, both to avoid tooling a second set of grilles, and to have bragging rights as the best selling vehicle in America.


    3) I have been watching GSA auctions for 15 years. Mostly it is white/silver pick up trucks and SUVs these days. Not as many cars as there used to be many years ago. A few here and there but they are rare and seem to be left overs from years gone by.

    If the rules will be USA made BEVs made by union labor the choice is limited. Basically the current choice is the Workhorse truck, Chevrolet bolt, and Ford Mach-E. If the time frame for replacement spans several years then it might expand to a BEV F150 or Silverado in the future. At least from the future plans that have been publicly stated by the OEMs.

    I think it would be dumb for any Democrat to thumb their nose at the UAW and pick any TESLA model. TESLA is a well known anti-union company in UAW circles. Especially after the last round of votes at the TESLA plant which were cast under dubious circumstances, at least from the view of the UAW.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 The K900 is much better equipped than an E-Class or 5 series at the same price, but still, $60K for a Kia sedan? That’s what everyone thought.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 What union represents the Mach-E plant in Mexico? Is there a branch of the UAW?

  17. TERRY Says:

    Doesn’t E-Racing result in short races, or swapping out a second vehicle when the battery runs out?

    Doesn’t that reinforce the problem of BEV vehicles’ short range in general?


    16) You’re right. So that leaves the Bolt and the Workhorse. Pretty slim pickings for US and union made BEVs.

    I suspect that there is some wordsmithing here and it is not “electric” but “electrified”. Electrified would open the market of potential vehicles significantly such as an F150/Ram Hybrid which are “electrified”.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 Formula E increased battery size and no longer does car swapping. Still, the races aren’t very long, ~50-60 miles.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 “Electrified” could also include the Pacifica plug-in hybrid, and some Ford hybrid crossovers.


    20) Sounds like we need to invest in Ford.

  22. Wayne Says:

    #20 The Pacifica is assembled in Windsor, Ontario so not sure it will qualify under “Buy American”. Also, the employees are unionized with the union Unifor in Canada not the UAW.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 I don’t know what will happen now, but in the past, NASA seemed to care mainly about “American” brands. There are Canadian Caravans, Mexican Fusions, and probably other non-US GM, Ford, and Chrysler/FCA products at the space center. I think there may also be Canadian Chargers.

  24. Wayne Says:

    23 I think under the old NAFTA, Canadian and Mexican built vehicles were “acceptable” for U.S. government purchases. Not sure what changes the USMCA may have made to this. The Biden administration may make further changes as well. Also, most vehicles assembled in North America contain parts sourced worldwide so it may come down to content %ages???

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 Yeah, all true. Also, there are Toyotas and Hondas that are a lot more “American” than many Fords and Chevies.

  26. 2doorit Says:

    Hey Mini, you can’t call it a fog lamp when it is mounted so high up on the front of the car.

    Stellantis, ask you doctor if it is right for you.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    26 That was my thought when I first heard/saw Stellantis. Maybe it’s different in France.


    27) Stellantis is completely made up. However, according to this article, it is based in the latin word Stello which means: To brighten with stars. I doubt anyone in the world would recognize, without being told, that Stellantis was a reference to the latin word Stello.