AD #3060 – More Apple Rumors; Hyundai Santa Cruz Fully Revealed; Mercedes EQS Details Coming In

April 16th, 2021 at 11:59am

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Runtime: 11:09

0:07 More Apple Rumors Swirling
0:46 Cruise Raises More Money
1:18 Hyundai Santa Cruz Fully Revealed
3:45 Mercedes EQS Details Coming In
5:13 Hong Guang MINI EV Gets Convertible Concept
5:48 NIO Opening 2nd-Gen Battery Swapping Station
7:18 VW Launching GTX Performance Line for ID Vehicles
7:47 Volkswagen Arteon R-Line Not Worth the Money
9:24 Renault Develops First Hybrid with Legos

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35 Comments to “AD #3060 – More Apple Rumors; Hyundai Santa Cruz Fully Revealed; Mercedes EQS Details Coming In”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    The Santa Cruz will probably do well and I wonder if Hyundai has a rear cap for it. That could really change the look similar to look more like the Santa Fe.

  2. Buzzerd Says:

    There must be a reason GM is the only one that has done the midgate, cost maybe? Patent on the design? It sure adds a lot of utility, with building a house I’ve used mine a ton in the last year.

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Hyundai feels Santa Cruz is filling a hole in the segment, but to me, the gaping hole waiting to be filled is an actual smaller, regular cab pickup truck. Those 20 year old S-10s and Rangers are starting to get hard to find, as they rust out and wear out. The Santa Cruz will join the Maverick as another “lifestyle” vehicle. I suppose both will sell reasonably well, though, depending on the price.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2 Maybe structural stiffness is a factor, with the Santa Cruz being unibody.

  5. Kevin A Says:

    Sean, A little late for April Fool’s but a couple of your new items would have made the grade.
    1. Santa Cruise – GM and Hyundai jointly offer an autonomous vehicle to be used for delivering Christmas presents. Available in pickup or van, but only one color, red with a white roof.

    PS The new MB EQS reminds me of a soap on a rope I once had. Does MB or Tesla offer car shaped bars of soap?

  6. wmb Says:

    I loved the original front end of the Santa Cruz concept, but I’m warming to its new face. The concept was based on the Tucson and even though the SC has its new face, I’m surprised to learn that it’s built from the Santa Fe’s bone. So, while it will definitely be smaller then the Ridgeline and the other midsize pick-ups, it should be larger the the Ford Maverick, which based on the Escape and is in a class smaller then the Santa Fe. The Santa Cruz is styled like it is a fun and funky little run about, with eye catching looks (IMHO)! While not being able to say for sure until it’s revel, the Maverick is looking like it may be more a baby brother to its work-a-day sibling F-150 and Ranger middle child. The question is, will there be a Raptor version,or even an Adrenaline trim like Ford did with the Explorer Sport Trac a few years ago?

    While the interior of the EQS is incredible, the exterior has lost a LOT of the sizzle of the EQS concept. If Mercedes could have built the EQS with the look of the original concept, IMHO, they would have had a vehicle that was tough to beat. That being said, I’m sure they will sell as many as they can build, regardless of the price. With the number of Model S’s on the road, which sell for S-Class money, only demonstrate the interest that buyers with that kind of resources are will spend it on. Now that their is a full size BEV with the Mercedes-Benz star on its hood, means that they can open their order books as customers sign their checks!

  7. JWH Says:

    I find the NIO automated battery swapping concept intriguing. Not sure the infrastructure required will happen in my lifetime, although I admit the under 5 minute swap time would change my opinion of BEV for long distance travel.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’m wondering if they plan to use the two tone paint scheme on all EQSs, or just as an option. While I like two tone on some cars with clear demarcation lines, like Mini, Ford Flex, and a few others, it doesn’t seem to go so well with the more bubble shape of the EQS.

    If the EQS sells for similar prices to the Model S, the Benz should do very well. The Tesla has two advantages, the superchargers, and its being a hatchback, but to many buyers, I suspect neither of those things matter much.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6 Motor Trend thinks the Santa Cruz and Maverick will be about the same length, ~195 inches, but the Hyundai slightly wider.


    8) Agreed. It would look better on the EQS if the black color didn’t do that weird front fender dip. Makes it look really busy in that area. I still wouldn’t like it, but it would look better.

    I am not sure what the hole in the market is for Hyundai to fill. Doesn’t the ridgeline already fill the Unibody based smaller truck market? Maybe they think people are looking for an even smaller truck that offers none of the truck like capability other than hauling 1 bicycle around. Basically a Modern version of a dodge rampage but with less cargo room. Maybe that is the hole they are trying to fill? It didn’t work out for the Rampage, and that was a time period where gas was very short in supply. Maybe it will work for Hyundai this time around while Gas is plentiful. Time will tell I guess.

  11. Scott-in-Cleveland Says:

    I read somewhere that the Santa Cruze had the new Tucson underpinnings.

  12. Victor West Says:

    Price hurts the Ridgeline. In So Cal gardeners use the small trucks.

  13. Victor West Says:

    Mini trucks don’t rust out in CA. The go on forever.

  14. XA351GT Says:

    I thought Hyundai said the Santa Cruz was based off the Tucson not the Santa Fe?

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 The Santa Cruz will be somewhat smaller, and should be quite a bit less pricey than the Ridgeline, which starts at about $37K.

    Rampage sold from ~10K to ~17K per year over the three model years it was sold, 1982-84. The VW Rabbit truck sold almost 34K its second year, 1981. The Rabbit trucks are kind of collectable now, especially with diesel engines.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 Yeah, most of CA would be much easier on them than IN and MI, where they dump megatons of salt on the roads every winter.

  17. Drew Says:

    Regarding the MB EQS, the exterior styling has very generic details (headlamps and taillamps). Only the tri-Star badge and droopy rear end say suggest it’s a Benz. And the door trim panels lack M-B ergonomic sensibility (the inside door release handle it too far aft). Nevertheless, the EV range is impressive.

  18. GM Veteran Says:

    I’m surprised no one has mentioned the Subaru Baja yet. Another entry in this very small market segment that was discontinued due to dismal sales. It too was supposed to be a lifestyle vehicle.

    Success for the Santa Cruz depends on how many sales it takes to be profitable. The ability to sell it in other markets will help, but most other markets want more utility in their pickups, not less. I think this will be a one-time model that will hang around for a few years and then be phased out.


    18) Ah yes. Forgot about the Baja and the Brat before it. Both of them very short lived vehicles due to poor sales. Both of them also have a cult following from the people who love Quirky cars that were flashes in the pan. Both are also still have a high value for their age. But that is about it. Not saying the Santa-Cruz will be the same, but history has shown this segment to be small and tough to be a success. You are basically competing with more capable used trucks.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18,19 Didn’t Baja or Brat, or both, have seats in the bed?

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    20 I found my answer. Brat, the earlier one did. They were rear facing.

  22. Merv Peters Says:

    another great week of autoline,thanks

  23. Merv Peters Says:

    another great week of autoline,thanks

  24. Scott-in-Cleveland Says:

    If the Santa Cruz is sucessful, maybe Ram will bring over the Ram 700 pickup, and Chevrolet the Montana/Tornado.

  25. ChuckGrenci Says:

    24, I’d be interested in the Chevy small truck. I don’t know that I’d buy but I’m reminiscing about my S-10 (which I really enjoyed).

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Montana/Tornado would be a great addition to the US market, but it will never happen, because it would take too many sales from vehicles they can charge a lot more for.

  27. XA351GT Says:

    26,would it though? If people can’t afford the bigger trucks they are losing that sale to someone else. Buyers are still going to get something , just not your brand if you don’t offer what they can actually afford .

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    27 I guess we will likely never know, since the Montana/Tornado and Ram 700 will probably never be sold in the US. If they were sold, I suppose they might take sales from small CUVs more than from other pickups. It seems that the people who buy big trucks with no need for them just like big, and wouldn’t be interested in the small, front drive Montana or Ram 700, even though they would work fine for driving to work and going to Walmart, all many buyers use their monster trucks for.

  29. Sean Wagner Says:

    28 I didn’t know anything about the diminutive RAM 700. It certainly looks spiffy, but seems a little on the small side for the US.

  30. ChuckGrenci Says:

    One nice thing about the Montana pickup is that being only a front seater it still retains a large bed; that could be a differentiator. But it may also present a limiter too but back in my Motocross racing days (early ’70′s) that’s all we needed and that’s what the original small pickups came in.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    29 The RAM 700 is called Fiat Strada in most markets, and is based on one of Fiat’s B segment hatchbacks. According to the Wikipedia article, the 2-door Strada has a surprisingly large payload of 720 kg, 1587 lb.

  32. Lambo2015 Says:

    The problem that plagues small pick-ups is the ability to stay small. I bet there is a large market for folks that would like and could use a pick-up but are just unwilling or unable to spend 45K on a truck. So they end up opting for a used one or look to the mid-size or smaller trucks simply price driven. The problem is many really could use the full size and try and use their small truck like a full size. They will overload them and treat them like a 1/2 ton. So what does the makers do? With each refresh they add size and capability and soon the small truck is a mid-size.
    The small trucks have their place and people that like to haul bikes or a dirtbike and dogs or go get mulch for their yard these little trucks are great. Fairly light small loads and all those messy items can be hauled quite well. Its the people that need the bigger truck but buy them cause of their affordability.
    That’s the reason I think the ridgeline is in a different class. Its not smaller and affordable its actually still pretty expensive so those buyers know what they are getting and it fits their needs. They aren’t buying it with the misconception its cheaper than a 1/2 ton and will work. It does what they need.

    This is a problem that has always plagued the small truck market and retaining buyers that don’t expect too much from the little trucks. To me that seem to be the replacement for the Elcamino and Rancharo’s which still had a load capacity of like 1200lbs in the HD version I think the light versions was like 800lbs.

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I saw a 1957 Ranchero on the road a couple days ago. You don’t see many of those.

  34. Ken Says:

    Raise your hand if you have ever heard of the Volkswagen Arteon.

    I don’t see too many raised hands, do you? VW probably puts all it’s advertising muscle behind its line of SUV’s.

  35. Scott-in-Cleveland Says:

    #34 *Hand raised!* But I only know of it from the last auto show I attended and I saw the last gen Arteon in a VW dealer showroom (an R Line, I beleive).