AD #3149 – GMC Reveals Canyon Off-Road Concept; Ford Electric Crate Motor Specs; Hyundai Santa Cruz Impressions

August 27th, 2021 at 11:48am

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Runtime: 12:05

0:08 GM to Require Salaried Employees Report Vaccine Status
1:00 Geneva Organizers & Qatar Partner for Spin-Off Auto Show
1:32 U.S. August Car Sales Expected to Drop
2:13 Ford Shares Specs for New Electric Crate Motor
3:41 GMC Reveals Canyon AT4 OVERLANDX Concept
4:28 Jeep Introduces Pink Paint Color for All Wranglers
5:03 Kia Develops Sportage Variant Specifically for Europe
5:53 Hyundai Santa Cruz Impressions
8:29 GM Warns LG Chem It Could Turn to Other Battery Suppliers
9:14 New Tech Protects Occupants & 1st Responders in EV Accidents

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39 Comments to “AD #3149 – GMC Reveals Canyon Off-Road Concept; Ford Electric Crate Motor Specs; Hyundai Santa Cruz Impressions”

  1. Rey Says:

    Regarding the GM threat to LG ,will it be an Ultium? Or Ultimatum

  2. Sean Wagner Says:

    Yesterday’s Autoline After Hours was interesting. Good job Bengt, Gary, and John, as well as Jason from Joyson Safety Systems.

    Yesterday, Mary Barra gave an interview to Bloomberg that’s available online. It’s important for her to be seen and heard at this crucial junction, but her only rejoinder concerning alternate battery cell sourcing was the reference to their investment in a company researching solid-state batteries.

    I find the idea that gm might conjure up replacement cells for their coming new vehicles very far-fetched. Meanwhile, here in Europe, numerous new EVs are selling quite well (among them the Mach-E, Ford of Europe’s first successful upscale car in an generation). Just a pity that most Teslas are now sourced out of China.

    Does anyone else have hallucinations about dropping that crate motor into a three-wheeler? Paging Sandy Munro.

  3. Lambo2015 Says:

    So I’m wondering if Jeep has another reason for using the Tuscadero name for its pink Jeep.
    I immediately was thrown back to the 70′s watching Happy Days and Fonzie’s love interest Pinky Tuscadero played by Roz Kelly.

  4. ChuckGrenci Says:

    3, yeah I caught that too; Pinky Tuscadero. I’d call the Porsche pink fuchsia and the Jeep’s magenta (but pinkish none the less).

    We had Covid on its knees, then the cases eased and July 4th happened. Along with the delta variant, reluctance to get vaccinated, and we’re almost right where we were (not a good place).

  5. Drew Says:

    Regarding the Joyson device that cuts “all” power when a BEV is in an accident, I hope it doesn’t cut “all” power, all residual power is needed for systems like OnStar to call for help. Also, some accidents are concatenation events wherein the safety systems need to be powered for a secondary (and often more severe) collision.

  6. Sean Wagner Says:

    5 Drew – That’s what the separate 12V battery is for.

  7. Barry Rector Says:

    I think the correct pronunciation for the Arab country Qatar is “Cutter”. I’ve heard it from news sources.

  8. Rey Says:

    Covid19 is here to stay, no vaccine will cut it down to its knees, it is a virus, just like your common cold and flu,it will mutate and probably get a little weaker with time, but will be here nonetheless, but then again it might become easier to spread and transmit,, a clue can be found by reading about the Spanish flu of 1918-19 but even that is nothing like COVID19 , and with jet travel Covid19 will be one-step ahead of us humans.

  9. Rey Says:

    GM making threats to LG seems like they have other battery options,IMHO they really don’t have,nothing but empty threats they have , sourcing batteries is not like switching on a light bulb,Who they gonna partner with,SKInnovation , who still have to build a factory for Ford? Mary Barra is dreaming , or totally clueless,or both.

  10. David Sprowl Says:

    To vaccinate or not? Tough question to be sure. I wonder though why? Currently vaccination has done seemingly little to slow the spread. Deadly for some, not so much for the masses. 10% of the US population was diagnosed with Covid. Yet as a percentage appox .5% has succumbed. It is #3 on the CDCs cause of death. I certainly glad there is a vaccine, but at an 80% efficacy rate, with what may now require 6 month booster shot. Is this worth the attention it is getting?

  11. JoeS Says:

    Anyone old enough to remember VCRs should remember Goldstar as a second rate discount brand. Goldstar changed their name to LG. Maybe GM shouldn’t be surprised about the defect.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    What, exactly, does Ford think people will do with their electric motor, without power electronics? It’s not like you just turn it on and off with a light switch.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11 I have two Goldstar 5500 btu window air conditioners, about 23 years old, and they still work perfectly.

  14. Wim van Acker Says:

    @11: the company name used to be Lucky-Goldstar, hence the “LG”. I remember this because I worked in the chemical industry 35 years ago and Lucky-Goldstar from South Korea was one of our up-and-coming competitors.

  15. Wim van Acker Says:

    @GM Canyon Off-Road: could anyone explain to me what the two lines from the hood to the roof are for?

  16. Merv Peters Says:

    that santa cruz looks like a modern day brat with 4 doors,instead of 2.

  17. Lew Says:

    Mary Kay could be a buyer of the pink Jeeps.

  18. ARHPG Says:

    Sean, another excellent presentation of Autoline Daily! One tiny criticism in the “for-what-it’s-worth category,” Hyundai is pronounced “Hunday,” (rhymes with “Sunday”) not “Honday.” Back in the formative marketing days at Hyundai on entering the US market, it is thought that factory representatives told dealership sales personnel to pronounce Hyundai as “Honday,” to sound a bit like the established automotive icon from Japan, but over time it has returned to the proper “Hunday.” Hyundai is now completely established and needs to emulate no one in the industry.

  19. Sean McElroy Says:

    @Wim – Apparently those are called Guy cables and are meant to keep low hanging branches from hitting the windshield.

  20. Wim van Acker Says:

    @19: I see, thanks for explaining that, Sean.

    That Canyon Off-Road looks great to me, by the way.

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 I still hear people calling it high-un-die. I remember US marketeers pronouncing Renault as “renn-alt,” I guess trying to hide that they were French, though probably everyone knew.

  22. Bobby T Says:

    21, back in the 1950s, most people said Ren- alt. I think that as we’ve become more accustomed to the correct pronunciation of foreign words we’ve changed. Yet hardly anyone says Folks-vagen. Then there’s Peugeot.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 Here is an ad like I remember for the Dauphine. They don’t hide that it is French, but say renn-alt.

    Peugeot left the US market about 30 years ago, so a lot of Americans never would have even heard of the brand.

  24. Bobby T Says:

    23, fun to see those old ads. I’ve heard people pronounce Peugeot Pew-got or Poo-go. Kit, where did you find that Dauphine ad?

  25. Sean Wagner Says:

    23 Kit – Great find. The Dauphine had a city horn and a country horn! Also, if you knew how to pronounce Claire Chennault, Renault shouldn’t be a problem.

  26. ChuckGrenci Says:

    French 1 and French 2 in high school (only took 3 years :) ), so for me: ren-know. Nice catch on the add Kit.

    The GMC AT4 looks like it means business now, and while most won’t use the vehicle off road, there is a large off-road contingency that will have another serious choice when traversing the ‘hills and dales’.

  27. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I just saw in my local newspaper that BMW is working on a new larger SUV that will be built in S.C. Probably being called the X8 and trying to get into the increasingly crowded Escalade, Lincoln, Grand Wagoneer market; the behemoths keep coming.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 I searched “renault dauphine ad” on youtube. I think that was the first one that came up.

  29. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I didn’t realize that the only Dauphine body style was 4 door sedan/saloon, I think in all markets, but the wikipedia article says that was the case.

  30. Sean Wagner Says:

    The seminal Renault 4 wasn’t long in coming. It was introduced two years after the Mini and produced from 1961-’94 (!), while the rear-engined Dauphine rolled off the lines from ’56-’67. Interesting.

  31. Sean Wagner Says:

    And I’ll hazard a guess that the new BYD Dolphin could follow in the Renault’s treadmarks. A compelling EV (as in market-compelling) made by one of the goliaths of cell manufacturing, and unchallenged world champion of electric buses.

    27 Chuck – I didn’t know the Escalade was available with gm’s nice inline six turbodiesel. Color me something non-pink.

    Given the US produces roughly 150 million gallons of biofuels a month, I can see powerful series hybrids becoming a ‘local’ BEV alternative.

  32. ChuckGrenci Says:

    31, Sean; and I believe the 3.0 liter Escalade diesel is a no cost option. I think the diesel makes the most sense for these large vehicles.

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    That diesel would be nice in a car, if there are any cars it would fit in. According to MT, it gets 8.5 seconds 0-60 in the huge trucks, and returns 21/27 EPA gas mileage in an Escalade. In a 4000 pound car, or better yet, car-height wagon, it should do about 6 seconds 0-60, and get 40 mpg on the highway.


    I am vaccinated and encourage everyone to get them. However I am adamantly against forced vaccinations for anyone. If it is OK to force medical decisions on people, then I have a list of things that GM should be forcing people to do medically.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I was required to be vaccinated for various things when in the navy, was required to get a yellow fever shot to go on a cruise in Brazil, and kids need to be vaccinated to enroll in school. It’s a public health and safety thing that should be “forced,” for the good of all of us. Yeah, people disagree, especially with all of the misinformation and disinformation being spewed about.


    35) Is it GMs role or the governments role when talking about “the good for all”? Should we be using the GM board room when it is politically inconvenient to actually legislate? Is that the role of GM? Imagine what Trump would have done if he could have used executive board rooms across the country to legislate from.

  37. cwolf Says:

    36) For as much as some think it is not right for businesses to require vacinations, they also complain when it mandated by the government.
    Unfortunately, it is out of sheer stupidity and selfishness for these people who do not take the responsibility of getting vacinated upon themselve. If there is someone to complain to, often they can be found in the mirror.

  38. Joe G Says:

    If this was SAFE and EFFECTIVE then more would certainly take it. Higher death rate than all vaccines combined, side effects and now waining or no effectiveness to variants. (Look at Isreal). Manufacturers have zero liability? People are waking up. Maybe GM will pay damages to employees for adverse reactions. Stop watching CNN!

  39. Lambo2015 Says:

    34 I respect your stance on this as I think people forget the “Live Free or Die” America. Joe G is right and this is NOT a vaccine. This is an experimental drug where if you open the info packet that comes with any other drug it provides the contents of the drug. Information that lets Pharmacists the ability to let you know if you may suffer drug interactions.
    The Government has allowed emergency use of a substance without accepting any legal liability for damages. The drug companies cannot be sued and if that doesn’t concern you your a fool.

    Those that don’t believe there is adverse affects not being reported are also okay with being lied to. Just like how the Media is saying Florida is a problem yet when you check it is not even according to the CDC website where they rank 27th among cases per 1000.

    Everyone seems to be very opinionated about this subject and nothing irritates me more than the people who think the unvacc people are selfish or stupid when I’m told hey go get the jab. Its safe but if not too bad you cant hold anyone responsible. Oh and if you get it you can still get CV and you can still transmit CV and you still need to wear a mask and all it really does is lower your chances of CV being fatal to YOU. Doesn’t affect anyone else so F your selfishness comment.

    The reason I feel as I do is I have three brothers and two did get vaccinated and two of us did not. Within the last 6 weeks two of my brothers had strokes. Take a guess which ones? So both are in physical therapy and one will probably recover somewhat enough to go back to work. My other brother loss function of his whole right side. Too young to retire but also will not be able to go to work. On disability he will likely lose his house and may require a wheelchair from now on.. Mind you our family has no history of heart disease or strokes and all my brothers are between 48-55.

    If you were in a bar and the bartender said hey drink this.. Whats in it? Don’t worry about it its fine. I have 4 people on my parole that will tell you its safe. You’d be cautious yet for some reason for the Jab people throw common sense out the window and are lining up to be part of an experiment. For me when someone trusts it enough to take on the legal liability of it then I’ll consider it.