AD #3155 – Natural Gas Trucks Worse Than Diesel; Microlino is a Modern Day Isetta; Mercedes Reveals a Slew of EQ Electrics

September 7th, 2021 at 11:58am

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Runtime: 11:08

0:07 Toyota Spending Billions on Batteries
0:39 Natural Gas Trucks Worse Than Diesel
1:31 EPA Reveals Range for Rivian Truck & SUV
3:07 Microlino is a Modern Day Isetta
3:58 Mercedes Ready to Go Electric Off-Roading
4:20 Mercedes EQB is a 7-Seat Electric
4:39 Mercedes EQE Has EQS DNA
5:17 Mercedes-Maybach EQS Crossover
5:49 VW Shows First FWD MEB-Based EV
6:33 BMW Has Its Eye on Sustainability
8:27 Hyundai Reveals Its Hydrogen Vision
9:27 Baojun Unveils KiWi Electric Vehicle

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26 Comments to “AD #3155 – Natural Gas Trucks Worse Than Diesel; Microlino is a Modern Day Isetta; Mercedes Reveals a Slew of EQ Electrics”

  1. Norm T Says:

    Toyota: can’t beat them with hydrogen or hybrids, join them!

  2. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    How does the driver and passengers get out of the “Microlino” when involved in a front end collision, assuming they survive and are mobile? That is the most popular type of collision all over the world. How does this pass European safety standards? Maybe it is classified as a motorcycle and thusly zero safety standards apparently apply? Just looks very dangerous to me…just as the original Isetta was dangerous for the exact same reason. Cool concept though for someone else to drive.

  3. cwolf Says:

    I read this different take on Over-The- Air- Updates. It made me wonder who has access to perform them and are more laws needed to protect the consumer in these areas?

    https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2021/08/opinion-over-the-air-updates-bad-owning-the-car-good/

  4. Rey Says:

    FCV makers will never get it, its not the Fuel Cell that’s the problem, it is the “Fuel”, until someone comes up with a process to make it cheaply and out of renewables and at scale and cheaper than Gas or Diesel it is DOA, like in dead.It will be forever the ” fuel of the future”, nothing simpler than making Electrons out of Wind or Sunshine or Geothermal or Hydro and putting it directly in a battery.
    Toyota? Maybe they will finally wake up, in another ten years?

  5. John Says:

    A question to pose to the International Council of Clean Transportation. In their study, did they do an analysis on RNG (for example, the NG that is routinely flared at landfills)? Our local waste disposal company generates their own RNG for use in their garbage trucks. Sourcing isn’t an issue and it seems like a great solution for their application. Emissions also appear less than regular NG.

  6. Tony Gray Says:

    Let’s hope BMW rids itself of that grille abomination! I’ve owned 4 and won’t have that look foul my garage!

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    1,4 Toyota’s hybrids are a great near-term solution, but yeah, they will need EVs at some point.

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    I believe that in order to get the general public more acceptant with EVs they need to be provided range in terms that people are familiar with. For so many years people were given the efficiency of a car or (miles per gallon) So you basically knew how it compared to everything else. 40mpg is pretty good 30mpg seems about average and anything less well it better be a truck or SUV. Rarely is the tank size promoted giving you your range.
    However with range anxiety of EVs everything is given in range or kWh battery size.

    For many people who may be considering an EV they probably want to know how to compare apples to apples and if their old gas car got 30 mpg and they lived that far from work they knew it took two gallons for a round trip and at the current rate of gas thats about $6.00 So what is it going to cost to make that same trip with a Tesla model 3 vs the Rivian truck?

    I just think most consumers will want the ability to get an idea of how much their EV will cost to drive and that efficiency is just as important as MPG. I’m sure people will get a lot more familiar with what they pay for electricity too. Most have no idea.

  9. Phred Says:

    For the EV propaganda crowd…the natural gas “study” loaded the data with well head generalizations, drilling extrapolations, and rounded up numbers.Ten just consider the latest torm damage data in the northeast…where do you plug that EV in now! And lastly in California the electrical supply cutbacks and broen outs now lead to request to “not charge your EV during “peak demand times”!

  10. Glenn Says:

    The Microlino is interesting in looks and concept. But not suited for use on public roads. Since there is just a few inches between the front of the vehicle and the occupants, anyone involved in a front end collision would likely lose their legs.

  11. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    8) Really there is no range anxiety if 2 things were true. First: charger availability. Second: if you could get going in 5 minutes from dead flat. Those 2 things are the root of range anxiety. Otherwise nobody would care. Think about the Pontiac Fiero. This was supposed to be a sporty commuter car. Nobody had range anxiety with a Fiero even though it only had a 200 mile range. Why, because refueling could be done in 2 minutes(10 gallon tank if completely empty), and gas stations are plentiful.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    For those who use an EV as an only car, and take highway trips with it, range and charge time matters. For those who use an EV as a commuter vehicle, being able to charge at home matters. With a 50 mile/day commute with, say, a Tesla Model 3, you plug it in overnight every 5 or 6 days. Doing the same commute with a Camry hybrid, you go to a gas station every 10 days. I don’t see a big difference in the “convenience” aspect. Yeah, if you have an extended power outage, the EV would be a problem.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 Yeah, the likelihood that most people would charge EVs at other than during peak demand times, is why generating capacity would not be a big factor if we added a lot of EVs to the fleet. Rates set by time of day would strongly encourage people to charge at off-peak hours.

  14. Merv Peters Says:

    11 live on the west coast of Canada,yesterday I saw a tesla with Ohio plates. Not sure how much planning that took to get here? I was hoping to talk to the owner,but that never happened.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 In July, a friend drove a Model S from the Seattle area to central Indiana. He mostly used the route shown by the Tesla trip planner. It didn’t take any special planning, but would have added about 10-15% to the drive time.

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    9-13 Yea its not just charging stations and refill times exactly. I believe for most people home charging is key to owning an EV. that takes away the concern of long recharging times.

    So not only do you need a home charger but likely a 240V outlet to provide fast charging.
    When you take the entire population of car buyers and remove ones that cannot charge at home. Then remove the ones that do not adequate power to add a charger. Then you start to see the true market for these EVs. Charging stations will help but if it takes 2-5 hours to charge my car I’m not willing to hang out somewhere for that long every couple days to recharge my car. It has to be done at home for anything more than a few minutes. So adding charging stations will do little to help sell cars. It will just make using them more convenient. So even if a charging station was on every corner. Are you going to leave your car down the street and walk home. Then walk back 3 hours later to move it back home? I’m guessing no.

  17. GM-10 Says:

    A Maybach? Seriously that thing is a Maybach?

    If so, the Maybach brand stands for nothing.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 For some people, home charging with a 120v outlet would work. With a Model 3, you get about 4 miles per hour of charge, so a lot of people would be able to get 50 miles/day with a 120v. You’d need to plug it in every day, though.

  19. cwolf Says:

    There are so many safety devices added to vehicles on a regular basis. Does anyone know only those mandated by law? Are there any vehicles on the market with only the bare minimum?
    My perfect EV is one with only cruise and a backup camera. I want knobs to tune the radio and levers to regulate the temp. A range of 200 miles is a must and an ideal recharge time of around 4 hours. I may have missed a couple other small luxuries, yet I could live without them.

  20. wmb Says:

    @12.) A power outage would hit a BEV in a bad way, especially with charging at home. Yet, how much different is that then the oil crisis of the late ’70s and early ’80s? Yes, power outages are more frequent in some areas, but gas prices seem to go up and down almost from week to week. With storms and other natural disasters, the price driver’s pay at the pump can come with sticker shock! My point is, the experience that customers have had with gasoline has not always been as pretty as we remember. There is going to be growing pains with EVs, but there was a time when vehicles with ICEs were not the efficient, easily fueled, marvel’s of design that they are today.

    IMHO, this Maybach concwpt is very beautiful and what the model should have looked like from the start! Just like the Bentayga and the Cullinan, it’s look will attract some and repel others. Yet, it doesn’t look like the GLS with lots and lots of gaudy chrome. Finally, Maybach has something to at very least compete with Bentley.

    The EQE, while not as good looking as the EQS concept, seems to have better proportions and is more appealing to my eye. One way or another, they will sell everyone they build, for the Mercedes faithful now has a true Tesla fighter with a three pointed star!

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 According to this, the only mandatory safety items in the US are seat belts, LATCH for child seats, stability control, and front air bags.

    https://thenewswheel.com/which-safety-features-are-legally-required-on-us-cars/

    That doesn’t sound right, but maybe it is. I thought backup camera or sensors, tire pressure monitor, and maybe other things I’ve forpotten were required.

  22. Lambo2015 Says:

    The Maybach just reaffirms that this move to SUVs really takes away much of the styling freedom of the designs. It puts much more emphasis on the interior because much like everything out there it looks very similar on the outside. They can add fancy wheels and grills but the overall shape is nothing unique. It also proves that the traditional sedan isn’t just going away it has evolved into these higher seated SUVs. History repeats itself. as we are back to the sedans of the 1930s.

  23. Lambo2015 Says:

    20 ABS is also required but maybe they include that with stability control. That one I didn’t know.

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 Yeah, ABS is definitely part of stability control, being controlled by sensors in addition to wheel speed sensing.

  25. Lambo2015 Says:

    18 I’m with you I would be perfectly content with an EV that was even three wheeled and very basic for my go to work vehicle. I’d keep my truck for trips and towing the boat or trailer. But my everyday driver Id be fine with a radio that has an aux port. Power windows and A/C is about the only options I’d want, but are almost standard on everything now. I don’t care about a touch screen and driving assist features. I do like remote start but with an EV I’m not sure that’s even necessary.

    Funny thing is I have a 2012 Cadillac and my 2020 Ram has more features cameras and sensors. And its a bighorn addition so not a fully loaded edition. Most of the added features on the truck I like but some have been shut off and I don’t care if I ever have them on my next vehicle.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 About any 2020 vehicle would have more features than even “premium” 2012 vehicles. Then, some vehicles are “tech showcases,” like a 2004 Prius having “keyless go” standard, while it would have been an expensive option on a Benz or Cadillac at the time.

    I miss crank windows, which work regardless of the position of the key, start/stop button, etc.

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