AD #3159 – Subaru Reveals New WRX; China Wants to Consolidate EV Companies; Ford Axes EcoSport From U.S. Lineup

September 13th, 2021 at 11:52am

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Runtime: 11:22

0:08 China Wants to Consolidate EV Companies
1:05 VW Takes Majority Ownership in JAC
2:02 Mercedes & BMW Will Keep Prices High
2:37 Democrats Unveil New EV Incentive Package
4:29 GM Slashes Deliveries Due to Chip Shortage
5:12 Z51’s Popularity Dents Corvette’s EPA Numbers
6:15 Subaru Reveals New WRX
8:07 Volkswagen Rolls Out OTA Update for ID Vehicles
8:36 VW Opens Battery Cell Lab
9:04 Ford Axes EcoSport From U.S. Lineup
9:51 Wolverine Introduces Ram Truck Inspired Boots

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33 Comments to “AD #3159 – Subaru Reveals New WRX; China Wants to Consolidate EV Companies; Ford Axes EcoSport From U.S. Lineup”

  1. George Ricci Says:

    Wolverine needs to stop smelling their boots.

  2. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’m glad the Corvette I ordered doesn’t have the gas hog Z51 package. Now, if they would get around to building it.

  3. Jim Haines Says:

    Why should taxpayers subsidize car costs for anybody that is such bullshit

  4. motorman Says:

    hard working taxpayers that can not afford a new EV that is your hard earned income tax dollars being spent so people who can afford an EV get a break. the only money the govt.has to give away is yours as all their money comes from taxpayers. what do you think of that ??

  5. motorman Says:

    jim haines that is called buying votes and look for more before the 2022 elections

  6. JWH Says:

    #2 – I’ve got Z51 on our 2016 Corvette, & would order it on a new one if a C8 was part of the plan. Many times we all like different things. Trust you’ll enjoy your C8 once if magically appears. & enjoy your current toy – the Cayman.

  7. JWH Says:

    #2 – I’ve got Z51 on our 2016 Corvette, & would order it on a new one if a C8 was part of the plan. Many times we all like different things. Trust you’ll enjoy your C8 once if magically appears. & enjoy your current toy – the Cayman.

  8. JWH Says:

    Apologize for posting twice. I hit submit & it did not appear to go anywhere. Impatience got the better of me. Have to give the system a little more time when it appears to stall.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6,7 I understand a majority of Corvette buyers getting Z51. For $6345, it’s a good value for a little more performance, if you will use it. I may, or may not ever drive it on a track, and I’d rather have the taller gearing, not only for a little better highway mpg, but for the quieter highway cruising. Also, the standard tires should probably last longer, and be quieter.

    It will be interesting to see my thoughts on the Corvette vs the Cayman. They are both mid-engine sports cars, but with very different approaches to things.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    To the extent that any of the proposed EV incentives pass, I hope the income eligibility threshold is downwardly adjusted, a lot. Individuals with $400K, and joint filers with $800K annual income don’t need incentives to buy anything.

  11. ChuckGrenci Says:

    2,3,4,5,6,9 I’m on-board with all these comments (even #1; boots shouldn’t cost so much). The C8′s value with or without Z-51 should be unquestioned, but it’s probably not needed for non-track cars; on a positive note, the sans Z-51 does have a higher top speed (keep it sane Kit :) ).

  12. Lambo2015 Says:

    2 LOL I wouldn’t consider a 400+ HP vehicle with 24mpg a gas hog. Not even in the thirsty category. Most consumers that can afford a Corvette put fuel efficiency near the bottom of their lists. Its like buying a bulldozer and expecting a smooth ride. As mentioned I doubt it will matter to most buyers.

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    Yep we are free market society until the government wants to push a product. I’m afraid these rebate incentives will just give manufacturers more money. They maybe had a target price of 45k but knowing the public is going to get a $7500 to $12,500 rebate. They can price it at 50K and let the rebates bring it down below 40. Literally rolling half or more of the rebate into their pricing.
    Id really rather see the government waste out money on offering tax credits to upgrade your homes electric system and adding a home charger.
    Then if the EVs make sense they’ll sell and people will buy and be willing to spend the money to charge at home which also lightens the load for the public chargers.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    12 Time will tell how my C8 does on gas mileage, buy my C7 got 29-30 on extended highway trips, pretty impressive. My manual Cayman does about the same on the highway, but the Cayman does much better than the C7, and presumably the C8, in low speed/short trip/stop and go driving.

    Yeah, you don’t buy Corvettes for gas mileage, but they do pretty well, for what they are.

  15. Lambo2015 Says:

    10 I was thinking at a max, half that amount. Anyone making 200K a year doesn’t need the working class to help support their auto buying needs.

  16. Barry Rector Says:

    It’s almost like a tale of two cities, GM vs. the GM dealerships! How are dealerships expected to stay afloat with having only a handful of new vehicles to sell while Corporate is making big profits?

  17. WineGeek Says:

    Good luck with MB and BMW keeping prices up once there is ample production capacity. :)

    The EV incentives are designed to push consumers of all incomes into an EV when possible. We need to mitigate carbon emissions before the only thing we will buy are pontoon boats because we are getting flooded all the time. High income people don’t need incentives for anything they have the income and the tax breaks. Let’s keep the inceptives for working people who really need them. No one buying a Tesla Model S for $130K or anything else at that price point needs an incentive.

  18. rick Says:

    mercedes & bmw will keep prices high????? only if people are stupid enough to keep buying mercedes & bmw.

  19. rick Says:

    cant believe anyone’s buying mercedes or bmw now as cartoonish as they look now.

  20. rick Says:

    democrats unveil new ev incentive package, toyota and honda blasted the proposal, you mean the same way they blast or exploit the weak labor laws of our country. toyota and honda are both unionized in japan. cant take the heat get out of the kitchen, cry babies.

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    BMW keeps taking away all of the reasons I have ever considered a BMW, and it’s not just the ugly nose. No manual transmissions. No naturally aspirated in-line 6. Mandatory 4wd to get an engine other than a turbo 4 in the 2 series coupe. The “ultimate driving machine” from BMW is long gone, except maybe some of the very pricey “M” cars.

    With Mercedes, some of the cars and CUVs look decent, but they are pricey, for what you get. For a “daily driver,” I’d rather pay barely over half as much, and use half as much gas with a Camry hybrid than an E-Class that has about the same amount of room. There isn’t even much different in acceleration between the Camry hybrid and base E-Class.

  22. Lambo2015 Says:

    17 Autos are the easy pickings. There are plenty of other places that emissions could be reduced that would have a tremendous impact.
    Also before you buy into the whole flooding thing from global warming.
    Go fill a glass with ice then water and let the ice melt. Does the water rise as the ice melts? No so don’t go buy your pontoon just yet.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 Polar ice caps melting raise sea level.

    Globally, transportation creates only 14% of greenhouse gas emissions, but in the US, it’s 29%

    https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    and:

    https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Mechanisms of sea level rise:

    https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level

  26. cwolf Says:

    22). FYI: Warming water currents flow from the golf towards Greenland, cool off, then flow back down the east coast. This recycling current is melting, not only ice flows but Greenland itself. So higher water levels have been occurring for quit some time. And this is just one small example that is happening world wide. This also alters rain patterns. Just look at the droughts all over the world.
    I’m not ready for an EV, just like some dislike eating vegetables, but discover they grow on you.

  27. fstfwrd Says:

    #3. ++++

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 Who, exactly, do you mean by “anybody that is such bullshit”?

  29. fstfwrd Says:

    Kit /#28. I think he is just missing a comma after “anybody”, or it should be a separate sentence.

  30. fstfwrd Says:

    Notice that there is no period either.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    30 …or question mark, even though the post started as “why should.” Yeah, an edit option here would be nice.

  32. Lambo2015 Says:

    Yeah some key points from the site you linked. Global gasses come from 25% production of electricity and heat. 24% agriculture and forestry and 21% industry. So 70% from those things while transportation is at 14%. Seems some focus should be placed in those categories too.
    Just doesn’t make much sense to help reduce the 14% contributor of emissions to increase electric production which accounts for 25%.

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    32 Transportation is 29% in the US, so it is far more significant locally than globally. Of course, the reason it is so high is lousy public transport, huge vehicles used to transport one person, etc.

    Yeah, it all needs to be addressed, and in the case of electricity, it is being addressed with more renewables. We need those fusion reactors too.

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