AD #3175 – GM Thinks Cruise Will Make $50 Billion/Year; Tesla Gains Share Despite New EVs; Maverick Better Than Expected

October 5th, 2021 at 11:50am

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Runtime: 10:33

0:07 Tesla Ramps Up Legal Battle with Rivian
0:54 Tesla Opens 1st Superchargers in Africa
1:28 GM Thinks Cruise Will Generate $50 Billion a Year
2:21 Tesla Gains Market Share Despite New EVs
3:46 U.S. Battery Shortage Could Last Until 2025
4:47 Mahle Develops Fast Charging Lithium-Carbon Battery
5:59 NASA Needs Help with New Astronaut Transportation Shuttle
7:19 New Ford Maverick Better Than Expected
9:07 India Could Ban Honking Horns for Musical Horns

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27 Comments to “AD #3175 – GM Thinks Cruise Will Make $50 Billion/Year; Tesla Gains Share Despite New EVs; Maverick Better Than Expected”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Haven’t companies always “stolen” employees from each other? I saw it happening, in both directions, when I worked for GM. I don’t really think Tesla has to worry much about Rivian anyway.

  2. GM Veteran Says:

    I agree Kit. Tesla and Apple stole quite a few employees from each other a few years back when Apple was serious about their Project Titan and Tesla was struggling to fix issues with the Model X and pushing hard on development of the Model 3.

    For me, perhaps the Bass Saxophone.

  3. GM Veteran Says:

    My enthusiasm was really building quickly as you listed off the positive attributes of the Mahle battery, and then came to a screeching halt as you mentioned the usage they envision.

    So, this won’t work for passenger vehicles, trucks and commercial vehicles? Is there a problem in scaling up the size and capacity of the battery? Also, cost was not mentioned, so maybe that precludes use in vehicles where longer range and higher power output is required?

  4. Rey Says:

    How would “la cucuracha ” sound with an Indian flute.
    Looks like Fords Maverick hit a homerun with the base Mav,lets hope the Dealers dont gouge, it is $26,000 base in Canada one vlogger was loaned one, for the same price as a Civic or a Corolla Ford has a winner, and if t
    Hey can keep the Lightning 150 price down they will have takers, atleast for Ford fans, lets see what GM offers..

  5. Rey Says:

    How would “la cucuracha ” sound with an Indian flute. With preprogramed and digital software any sound can be made, from V2 Harleys to screaming V12s , where allowed of course, so for BEV converts with addiction to Fossil sounds they can be satisfied, hopefully, and a massaging seat can complete the thumpa- thumpa feel of a lumpy V8.
    Looks like Fords Maverick hit a homerun with the base Mav,lets hope the Dealers dont gouge, it is $26,000 base in Canada one vlogger was loaned one, for the same price as a Civic or a Corolla Ford has a winner, and if t
    Hey can keep the Lightning 150 price down they will have takers, atleast for Ford fans, lets see what GM offers..

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I just took a look at the Maverick “build and price” tool, and it looks like to get cruise control, you need to get an XLT. While the base version has only one color, blue, other than black, white, and 4 shades of grey, the XLT has a little more color choice. There is red, blue, orange, and 5 shades of grey. The bottom line for the cheapest one with cruise control is $24,810. This is copied and pasted from the Ford site. It may be jumbled. I’m not sure what “acquisition fee” is. That sounds like a dealer add on, but this is from the Ford site. The $390 is red paint.

    BASE MSRPS1
    $22,280
    OPTIONSS4 & ACCESSORIESS8
    + $390
    DESTINATION CHARGESS17
    + $1,495
    ACQUISITION FEES18
    + $645
    TOTAL MSRPS16
    = $24,810
    ESTIMATED NET PRICES5
    = $24,810

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6 I meant the cheapest Maverick with cruise control and color is $24,810. It would be $390 less in black, white, or some of the shades of grey.

  8. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Base Maverick plus 7.5% (on base) destination charge; wow! Like John says; they really need to incorporate that delivery charge into the final price as there’s no getting around it.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 I, too, was wondering about the limited usefulness of the batteries. Maybe it’s because charging a car-size battery in 90 seconds would mean a charge rate of about 8000 amps at 500 volts, which might be practical.

  10. Stu Says:

    Here in the US, I don’t think we use our horns anywhere near as much as they do in India, but it is an interesting idea. I think I’d want the sad tuba sound from “The Price is Right” for mine.

  11. Bob Wilson Says:

    I want my horn to sound like a swarm of stinging and bitting insects … in stereo with left-right fade.

  12. Albemarle Says:

    Sean mentioned supercapacitor in the Mahle segment, hence the fast recharge and low capacity limit. I think it’s a good idea when prices come down to match batteries with supercapacitors. Allow the supercapacitor to absorb a charge quickly and less quickly recharge the battery. Might get you on your way sooner.

  13. Albemarle Says:

    I like the idea of rebuilding an original Airstream camper. Keep the history and nostalgia of earlier space times but update it with electric motor etc. I don’t think range is an issue with its job.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 Missing word in my post. Charging at 8000 amps, 500 volts might NOT be practical.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    12 I think they still have an Airstream or two. I remember seeing one at KSC not too long ago. Maybe it, or they need some work, though.

  16. John McElroy Says:

    #10. I want my horn to sound like screeching tires with full brake lock-up.

  17. Drew Says:

    Kit, I think the $645 acquisition fee is a back end charge to a lease… when you turn in your lease, but do lease another vehicle from that OEM.

    I’m a cash buyer, so that fee does not apply to me. It is completely insane that Ford lists that fee up-front as it makes their vehicles look more expensive than other OEMs.

  18. GM Veteran Says:

    There is a very small icon you can click on at the top of the Build It screen that details the various fees. This is what Ford says the acquisition fee is.

    Acquisition Fee is a charge paid by the lessee to Ford Credit to help cover the cost of acquiring and servicing the account.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17,18 Thanks for the info. I didn’t read the “fine print.” That’s strange, though, that they would show that in the “build and price” tool.

  20. Drew Says:

    17-19 – We paid cash for my wife’s Mustang last year (a consolation prize for our COVID-canceled Italy/Greece trip) and did not pat the $645 acquisition fee.

    Between goofy front end or back end lease fees AND dealer doc fees (we paid $200, but over $900 is common in Florida), it’s no wonder people hate the car purchase/lease experience.

  21. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    20) TESLA has proven that people just want a consistent price. It can be a very high price with zero discounts as all TESLAs are, but they want it to be consistent more than cost effective for their wallet. GM was starting to catch on to that with their Saturn division and no haggle pricing, but then they went typical GM and abandoned the elements that made Saturn special and what people liked most.

  22. Bobby T Says:

    My mother had a 1953 Studebaker that was originally sold overseas (Sweden I think). It had a horn and a bell. As I understood it, the bell was supposed to be used in the city. It also had Marchal headlights and a kph speedometer that went to 180kph which I used to convince my friends that it was a fast car. It was anything but, with that anemic Studebaker Champion six cylinder engine. It sure was a pretty car though.
    I would be worried that the cacophony of all of those tunes competing with each other would be worse than horns.

  23. Roger T Says:

    The Indian horn idea is silly, will do nothing to mitigate noise pollution. People there use horns to warn their neighboring vehicles of their position, the tone may change but the noise level won’t.

  24. ChuckGrenci Says:

    The Indian experiment might yield a cacophony of sound that might be interpreted as an avantgarde orchestra (probably more like an orchestra when it tuning-up); still thinking, it will be just as annoying.

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    20 Not only is a $900 doc fee common in Florida, but with Toyota, there is a ~$700 extra charge on the sticker in Florida and some other states “served” by the crooks of Southeast Toyota Distributors.

  26. Anthony Carl Mamut Says:

    My horn would play Lou Bega’s “Baby Keep Smiling”

  27. Ctech Says:

    The new Maverick sounds like a good buy, particularly compared to the mid-size trucks as a daily driver. I wonder if Ford considered calling it the F100?

    The horns I would like to order is the introduction to “Promises, Promises” by Dionne Warwick.