AD #3207 – GM Opens Factory Zero; Hyundai & Kia Reveal New BEV Concepts; Toyota Wants More Credit for EVs

November 18th, 2021 at 11:48am

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Runtime: 10:15

0:07 GM Opens New Factory Zero Plant
0:51 Toyota Doesn’t Think It Gets Enough EV Credit
2:00 Subaru Reveals AWD Range of Solterra BEV
4:16 Fisker Unveils Production Ocean
5:33 Kia EV9 Debuts
6:23 Hyundai Reveals SEVEN Concept
6:56 Kia Pulls Wraps Off Sportage Hybrid
8:00 Waymo & UPS Expand AV Tests
8:31 Audi Still Wants in on Formula 1
9:08 NACTOY Finalists Announced

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20 Comments to “AD #3207 – GM Opens Factory Zero; Hyundai & Kia Reveal New BEV Concepts; Toyota Wants More Credit for EVs”

  1. MJB Says:

    Sean, I’ll take the Hyundai Seven!

  2. Buzzerd Says:

    My guess would be Lucid, Rivian, and the Bronco.

  3. Scott-in-Cleveland Says:

    My NACTOY guess is Civic, Maverick, Bronco.

  4. EPA Says:

    Agree: Lucid, Rivian, and Bronco

  5. Buzzerd Says:

    I read today that Cadillac is going to ship some autos without heated seats and auto heated steering wheels to save chips. Pretty dumb if you ask me and since I’m still waiting for our XT4 I’ve told our dealer if it arrives without heated seats I’m not taking it. They totally agree and have no idea what GM is thinking.

  6. XA351GT Says:

    2 & 4 would be nice if they actually nominated vehicles for sale now and that the average schlub could afford.

  7. XA351GT Says:

    I need to add the only one on your lists that fit that is the Bronco before the 4-5K dealer mark ups.

  8. Drew Says:

    @5 – Do you think you’ll be happy with the rear seat comfort in the XT4? I like the overall size and style, but the “bite area” between the rear seat cushion and seat back protrudes, hitting my tail bone uncomfortably. Even though I don’t plan to sit back there, I’d hate to expose my occupants to such discomfort. No sale.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Why is the Bronco on the list? Hasn’t it been around for about a year?

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    John McElroy, maybe you can comment on why certain vehicles like CT5-V Blackwing and Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer didn’t even make the cut. I would have expected them to be potential winners, but they didn’t even make the final three in their categories. Are they not any good?

  11. Warwick Rex Dundas Says:

    Sean, I prefer the Hyundai 7, but I would hold final judgement till the Genesis version appears.

  12. Warwick Rex Dundas Says:

    Sean, the cars i think should win are Lucid Air, Rivian R1T and Hyundai Ioniq 5. However based on the hype, I would not be surprised to see the Maverick and Bronco make the winners list.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’m thinking there should be an upper price limit for NACTOY entries, like C and D has for their “10 Best.” The early Lucids sell for $169K. That seems a little too far removed from the real world for most of us.

  14. Sunrack Says:

    That Hyundai 7 looks better. That rear window up-kick though reminds me of what Ted Ornas did for the International Scout II to help hide the interior spare tire location. (First built in 1971 but designed prior to 1968)

  15. Fat Truck Superfan Says:

    There must be some mistake! The Fat Truck wasn’t even nominated in the truck category even though they just came out with a pickup version. The injustice of it all! I’m calling my Congressman (or is it Congressperson these days?) to complain about this major slight! Oh, the humanity!!

  16. Rey Says:

    The Lucid air will take Car of the year, it is efficiency and performance leading, in its own field , and Rivian will take truck of the year,you have to experience its capabilities as seen by many test drives have shown, the Ford Maverick might contest that Rivian tho, as it is very good in terms of a Hybrid and quite a small but versatile trucklet.
    Toyota is history, stalling the BEV movement and trying to throw cold water on it will turn off many to that brand, as many Toyota fans who loved the Hybrids now have gone to Tesla.

  17. Rey Says:

    #13 kit , the #170,000 Lucid Air sets a high bar, and achieves it, there is not a car that outperforms in all metrics for the money, Tesla Plaid aside, the Plaid is not as luxurious nor as efficient, the Mercedes EQS is nice but is Old World, is not even in the same ball park, buttons and multiple screens aside.
    I am amazed how GMs Mary Barra can come up with all kinds of announcements, like catching up to Teslas EV production numbers by 2025.,Maybe if GM makes a Corvette EV and sells it for $70,000-$80,000 ,she’ll pull a miracle.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 To me, these “cars of the year” should be picked from the lower 90th percentile or so in price. CR doesn’t test Bentleys, Ferraris, etc., because they are very much “niche for the rich” vehicles, as is this first Lucid. Should highly publicized car awards be “price no object”? I guess the philosophy of NACTOY is that it should be.

    As far as GM and EVs, we shall see, just as we shall see, regarding other major car companies saying they will sell only BEVs in 15-20 years.

    If and when there is an electric Corvette, it will cost more than $70-80K in today’s money, unless batteries are a lot cheaper by the time it arrives.

  19. Rey Says:

    #18 kit maybe I was thinking of another publications COTY , like Motor Trend , they picked the Lucid , I think, and the Tesla modS way a MT COTY sometime ago, when it debut and was over $100,000, yes, high dollar but it was ground breaking @ that time, and the prices has come down relative to what you can buy from Tesla, as all mod S now come with 100KW and over 340 miles of range and are dual motors compared to 85 Kw and single motor originally.

  20. Rey Says:

    GM totally absent in BEVs in the LA auto show proves they have no real BEV goals, claiming they will overtake Tesla in 2025 in BEVs when they dont even have one to show there LA Autoshow is pathetic, oh they had CHARGING FACILITY,a CellPhone wireless charging stand.LOL