AD #3226 – Kia Unveils All-New Carens; Dan Ammann Abruptly Leaves Cruise; Arrival Reveals First Prototype for Uber

December 17th, 2021 at 11:46am

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Runtime: 8:25

0:08 Dan Ammann Abruptly Let Go as CEO Of Cruise
0:58 Hyundai’s Head Of R&D Retires
1:42 China Pressures Continental to Stop Using Parts Made in Lithuania
2:47 Unvaccinated GM Canada Workers Could Be Fired
3:36 Car Sales Expected to Rise Next Year
4:13 Audi Testing AI to Do Quality Control Checks of Spot Welds
5:29 Kia Unveils All-New Carens
6:23 Rivian To Build Second Plant in Georgia
6:58 Arrival Reveals First Prototype for Uber

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34 Comments to “AD #3226 – Kia Unveils All-New Carens; Dan Ammann Abruptly Leaves Cruise; Arrival Reveals First Prototype for Uber”

  1. Rey Says:

    LOL, Dan Ammann jumping ship ? Or was he denied the CEO captaincy of Union boastful of misfits? Maybe Captain Mary Barra wants to keep that charade of ” GM is the leader in BEVs “, heaped on her by US President Joe Biden, maybe Dan Ammann, couldn’t stand the lies anymore.LOL- LOL-LOL
    Let the darts fly, all you Detroit fans and Dinosaurs

  2. Rey Says:

    Rivian wants to build in Georgia? Maybe to make sure they get away from any Union troubles in the future?

  3. bradley cross Says:

    Cruise needs someone younger and hip to be their public face to generate buzz and later IPO money.

  4. MJB Says:

    Saw my first Rivian on the road just yesterday. Good looking truck. The headlight signature is unmistakable, that’s for sure.

    With reference to the new Carens, could it be that KIA is simply unaware of the negative connotation a very similar word has here in the U.S. – Karen?

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-12/rivian-is-now-biggest-u-s-company-with-no-sales-amid-ev-fever

    4 I suspect if the new KIA is sold in the US, it will get a different name.

  6. Drew Says:

    @4 – Similarly, I saw my first on-road Rivian recently, then another. I agree the lighting makes it instantly identifiable.

    Separately and with great speculation, Ammann’s departure has all the making of a behavior-related dismissal.

  7. XA351GT Says:

    I just don’t get this over reach with jab mandates. Considering it doesn’t prevent either contraction or spread. So it lessens symptoms they say. Okay well if someone who is vaccinated will only mildly get sick while the unvaccinated may get worse results , but are willing to take their chances then I say let them. Looking at the fact the the Washington redskins have 21 of 53 players on covid protocol and are vaccinated it would lean one to believe that it is not very effective. To tell someone get the jab or you’re fired is a small step away from telling them to get in the train car.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4,6 Where are you seeing these Rivians? Is it Normal, IL where they are building the prototypes, and the few dozen they may have sold?

  9. Drew Says:

    @8 – Plymouth, MI. I believe Rivian has their main R&D facility nearby.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 Thanks for info. I may not see one here in Florida for a while.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9,10 Well, I may see them here if NASA buys some, which is possible.

  12. cwolf Says:

    I read the first batch of Rivians went to employees

  13. cwolf Says:

    I don’t think many here understand vaccinations nor there importance and consequences of the unvaccinated have upon others. The more shots one has lessens the chances of getting Covid, thus are less prone to transmit the virus for each shot received. But for those unvaxed, they can spread the virus to ALL others at an increased rate.
    The end result is that the mandates saves companies money by reducing down time, health cost expenditures, lost manpower and the need to hire temps or to pay O/T to cover for those who are ill.
    But I think there is a moral side that is even more important. Why should the vaccinated majority who want to do everything they can to protect themselves, their family and friends from possible illness or death just because there are a very few so self centered, they could care less of what happens to anyone but themselves.

  14. Victor West Says:

    13 AMEN!

  15. MJB Says:

    #8. West Bloomfield, Michigan

  16. MJB Says:

    13. I beg to differ my friend. Those who have natural antibodies (aka, have had covid already – and frankly, at nearly two years into this thing, who hasn’t had it, really?) are 25 to 27 times less likely to both catch or spread covid than those who’ve not had covid, but are fully vaccinated. I could post a link to the findings, but I’m on my mobile device right now.

    Suffice it to say, the real facts are just as XA351GT pointed out. Not what the media wants everyone to believe. Covid is nothing more than an engineered flu (China) – with a fatality rate no higher than the flu.

    Also, keep in mind that Florida (no Vax or mask mandates) has the lowest covid numbers, while my state (Michigan) has the highest. Evidence like this is all the proof I need. Naturally antibodies always trump vaccines.

  17. Drew Says:

    16 – Your misinformation is a major part of the problem. Antibodies wane over time, no matter if your antibodies came from herd exposure or a vaccine. The virus is more quickly spread indoors than outdoors, hence a contributing factor in the data you cite between Florida and Michigan.

    60 years ago, there was not this resistance to the polio vaccine, despite the initial polio vaccine having some tragic stories. Yet everyone abided and polio was wiped out.

    The sooner the Flat Earth people get vaccinated, the quicker this virus dies and our economy/lives can fully return to normalcy. Perhaps the IRS should impose a tax surcharge to the non-vaccinated to reflect the cost to the economy for their stubbornness. And I wouldn’t blame hospitals if they prioritized vaccinated patients over non-vaccinated. When hospitals are stressed over capacity, perhaps the non-vaccinated should be treated in the parking lot.

    Why my strong reaction against the non-vaccinated? First and foremost, this is the 2nd Christmas without Mom (you’d think people would learn from the deaths in the pre-vaccine months). Second, assembly plants can’t build quality products when the line can’t be fully staffed in a predictable manner. Third, I’d love to buy a car, but not in this short supply/high price market (yes, I know the chip shortage and other material shortages are the cause, but those shortages exist because of COVID).

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 Exactlty

  19. XA351GT Says:

    Funny thing is there over 10 people in the shop I work at unvaxxed and have been illness free not even a col in 2 years yet, currently we have 6 people out or just back from Covid that have been fully vaxxed and a few that even had the booster. Maybe some are more trusting of governments and bid pharma , but when they require immunity from litigation from their products if or when they fail or cause more harm than good should give anyone reason for pause. You are willing to trust a untested drug with your life and LONG TERM health . No one knows what those are at this point. This is a emergency use , that doesn’t mean it’s safe. If anyone feels it’s worth the risk then by all means go for it. But to act like those that don’t have that same faith are stupid for doing so and not wanting to risk their health . Ask those that took the J&J how they feel now that the they took away the use authorization again.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 Today is not April 1.

  21. Joe G Says:

    7,19 – Well said. Where I work the few people missing time from work due to Covid are fully vaxxed. One even got it within a week AFTER the booster. A family member (the only one vaxxed) got Covid she thinks from college.(Full of vaxxed teachers/students). She didn’t get it from us as she lives away from home and not in contact with us disease ridden unvaxxed. I draw my conculsions from what I see, not what I am told by the media.

  22. Drew Says:

    19 – Check the facts. You are 300x more likely to die or be hospitalized than if you are NOT vaccinated.

    Also, the vaccine has been tested. Those who cite the short time of approval as the reason for their distrust ARE missing the fact that the COVID vaccines are variants of previously approved vaccines (that went through many years of the approval process).

    XA351GT and MJB, please don’t use a small sample to make your life decisions. And don’t let such “conspiracy theories” prolong this pandemic… as successive variants may become more deadly and/or resistant to vaccines.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7,19,21 et al

    So you anti-vaxxers are thoroughly convinced that all governments, and all health-related NGOs in the world are telling us that the vaccines work, even though they don’t? Whatever.

  24. Drew Says:

    21 – No one ever claimed the vaccines were 100% effective (efficacy was in the 85-95% range), but they are very effective at keeping you out of the hospital.

    I understand your hesitancy to listen to the media (except John, Sean, and Gary). But you should listen to your doctor…. including Dr. data :)

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I’ve known 3 people who were shot and killed in domestic disputes, using handguns kept for “personal protection.” I haven’t known anyone murdered “on the street. By some people’s logic, that means all gun violence is the result of domestic conflict, and none is suicide or gang related.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Here’s an article about covid after booster shots, in the right wing WSJ. You might need to register to read it, but it’s free, at least for this article.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-breakthrough-can-happen-after-booster-in-rare-cases-11638795600

  27. Bobby T Says:

    I think that some people will use any tidbit of information to disprove scientific data, ignoring the facts. I would say more, but I think Kit and Drew have done it for me. Time to get back to AUTOMOTIVE news.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    In automotive news, the Corvette plant is to resume production Tuesday.

  29. Bobby T Says:

    28, lol

  30. ChuckGrenci Says:

    28,29, I heard Monday (but Tuesday is good; earlier rumor was not till after the Holidays). The plant was affected by the tornado outbreak and lost, I believe, 115 C8′s. Those that were destroyed are to be moved to the front of the line for replacement. Nice move by Chevrolet.

  31. Drew Says:

    Chuck, should we be leery of 115 heavily discounted C8s?

  32. Kit Gerhart Says:

    31 I read that the damaged cars were being scrapped, but I suspect they will save and use some engines, transmissions, etc. I’m glad I got my car a few weeks ago. I don’t think I’d want one of the first few built after what happened.

  33. ChuckGrenci Says:

    There is extensive q.c. for all built C8′s, and there have been multiple ‘quality holds’ to insure that quality, and while it is not perfect, for a new model it has been a reliable launch. As Kit said, damaged cars will be scrapped.

  34. Lambo2015 Says:

    Funny how some people think that people that have a brain, think for themselves and have common sense are somehow flat earthers. :-)
    Its not like money has ever bred corruption. Ours and other governments have never lied to its people and conducted tests unwillingly. I’m sure Sadam had WMD and it wasn’t about oil. Media has never embellished stories for ratings like in 92 when NBC rigged a truck with explosives to show how dangerous side saddle gas tanks were, (or were not).
    Surly there isn’t anyone making tons of cash over these vaccines so no reason to lie.
    I mean the government (WHO & CDC) and Media have been spot on with all their statistics and support all along. They never flip flopped and just like the Polio vaccine that once you took it, It worked and you didn’t get it. This is exactly the same. Works perfectly and protects you, Oh after a few shots and a few boosters. lol.
    No one ever lied about needing ventilators and the huge shortage that are now being tossed into land fills unopened brand new machines. Who paid for that?
    Fact of the matter is no one has gotten the flu in two years. Apparently Covid is the cure for the common annual flu. So take away your BS news outlets and the garbage they feed you and multiple conflicting statistics that are all skewed to support whatever side your on. Data has been cherry picked and manipulated which is easy to do and get the results you want.
    Kinda like when the death numbers were so high and then CDC had to back track and explain they counted everyone that died and had it even if it was a motorcycle crash. So the seriousness and impact has been overstated from the beginning.

    All I ask is forget what you been told shut off the TV and learn from your own experience. I have multiple nurses in my family and at no point was the hospitals ever over whelmed in our area. My daughter worked the Covid unit and saw what really happened first hand. Yes people died and sadly every year people used to die from the common flu and colds. Pay attention to whats going on around you personally and not just what you hear second hand.

    Best thing I heard (being from Ohio and we have a huge Amish population) You know why Covid hasn’t hurt the Amish? Because they don’t have TVs.
    So not trying to tell anyone to get or not get the shot that is a personal choice. But just evaluate your own environment and what is going on around you personally and not just what your told is happening.