AD #3238 – CATL Files Patent for Sodium-Ion Battery; Lucid Wants to Open a New Plant; China Has Most Cars in the World

January 13th, 2022 at 11:52am

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Runtime: 9:17

0:07 CATL Files Patent for Sodium-Ion Battery
1:03 EU Could Struggle to Reduce CO2 Emissions
1:33 BMW Invests in Chargers That Don’t Need Internet
2:41 Nuro Debuts 3rd-Gen Delivery Pod
3:53 Lucid Wants to Open a New Plant
4:42 ZF Names Hackathon Winners
6:31 China Has 100+ Million More Cars Than U.S.
7:04 Audi Considers Entering F1
7:45 Simulytic Studies Impact & Safety of AVs for Insurance
8:16 Toyota Reveals New Minivans for Japan

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15 Comments to “AD #3238 – CATL Files Patent for Sodium-Ion Battery; Lucid Wants to Open a New Plant; China Has Most Cars in the World”

  1. wmb Says:

    The EU’s seemingly singular focus of cutting emissions by going after only the passenger vehicle sector, makes no since! As mentioned here on AL, the passenger vehicle portion, makes up less the 20% (if I’m not mistaken) of the vehicles that emit emissions. So even if passenger vehicles emit no emissions and their construction was carbon neutral, it still would not remove the elephant from the room! Deliver and construction vehicles, boats, ships and aviation all must also be expected to do their part. Yet, it seems that the focus of politicians is on just one area of the bigger conversation!

  2. Wim van Acker Says:

    @Sean on CATL Sodium-Ion batteries: “It’s currently rated at 160 kilowatt hours per kilogram, but CATL says it will come to market with 200 kw/kg.”

    My observations, Sean:
    1 160 kWh per kilogram: that would mean that a Mustang Mach-e’s 90 kWh battery pack would weigh half a kilogram, one pound? Do you think this is realistic?
    2 apart from the wrong unit (kW (power) instead of kWh (amount of energy)) this would mean that they would launch with an even higher energy density of 200 KWh and then go down to 160 kWh? Do you think this is realistic?

    I suggest you think this through and get back to us.

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    1 The EU has much more efficient appliances than the US. Yeah, there could be more emphasis on transportation other than cars. In that regard, though, Europe does better than the US, with much more efficient alternatives to airplanes for moving people medium distances, with fast trains.

  4. Wim van Acker Says:

    @1 you are mistaken: the EU focus is not on passenger vehicles.

    Power generation, overland freight, waste disposal and waste-to-energy are all parts of the efforts to reduction of power consumption and reduction of emissions.

    Maritime cargo, in itself an important source of pollution, is hard to tackle because most of the emissions happen in international waters.

  5. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I went to the transcript and read CATL’s release; they announced 160Wh/kg. Is that something to the order of 0.2kw/kg (using the claim that they can increase the 160 to 200)?

  6. Wim van Acker Says:

    @5 the Autoline transcript states kWh and kW. The CATL transcript is apparently correct in absolute terms (and yes, you are correct in 160 Wh/kg = 0.160 Wh/kg)), and is logical: market launch at 160 Wh/kg and then further development to 200 Wh/kg.

    Let’s see what Sean comes back with.

  7. Wim van Acker Says:

    @6 I meant 160 Wh/kg = 0.160 kWh, sorry about that

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I bet Sean will fix the transcript, but it’s not fixed yet.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    8 Well, maybe not. It still says 160 kilowatt hours per kilogram. We know what he meant, though.

  10. Wmb Says:

    #3 & 4.) Thank you that was very enlightening, but it seems, as mentioned in today’s article, that OEMs of passenger vehicles are having to take much of the brunt of emissions changes, as politicians discuss more stringent rules. Yet, as mentioned in another AL report, passenger vehicles make up just under 20% of vehicles that emit harmful emissions (as I recall)! As we know, other sectors produce harmful emissions, but when it comes to vehicle’s, it seems that the only aspect that is being required to do better, is the passenger vehicle portion, in relationship to the legislation that is being considered. If passenger vehicles emitted zero emissions and the plants that build them were carbon neutral, there is still another 80% of vehicles that produce harmful CO2! Shouldn’t their levels become just as stringent on most if these vehicles too! Since the 70′s passenger vehicles have emitted fewer emissions then they ever have (which was also covered in an AL article)! Yet, it seems that they are the easy target when the subject turns to emissions.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 Even today’s vehicles are still a major source of NOx, CO, and with all of these GDI turbos, small particle emissions in urban areas. The percentage contribution of road vehicles, of course, varies widely depending on vehicle emission regs in a region, and what is upwind of a city, like coal fire power plants or “dirty” industrial facilities.

  12. Sean Wagner Says:

    When talking emissions reductions, it’s important to mention the base year, which is often not the present.

    The EU some years ago instituted an emissions trading scheme, which is far more sensible than picking winners and losers (though governments still have that option and do exercise it). The price of credits has gone up substantially of late.

    I’m not an expert on the matter, but EU-wide emissions regulation goes far beyond cars. For instance, ships of a certain tonnage will be included in the scheme from 2023, it seems.

  13. Lambo2015 Says:

    The Bahamas (port of Nassau) is the No.1 state for cruse ships to be registered in the world. It is also the worlds 3rd largest ship registry after Panama and Liberia.
    The flag state has absolute control over the vessel and its crew and establish the maritime rules and regulations in addition to the international Maritime org. So it would require them to change emissions requirements for ships and unlikely that will happen without international pressure.
    However countries could require a level of emission to dock at their ports of entry which would push the issue.

  14. Lambo2015 Says:

    As for BMW’s charging app. I failed to see how a blue tooth connection would help find chargers? I can see the interface from charger to the user being better but typical blue tooth range is very limited.
    I would think the key to finding chargers is having them within the many Map applications. As I do when traveling and if I’m looking for a gas station or restaurant I just have maps show me the closest one on my route and you really cant beat that. Pretty simple and works.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 Countries, and municipalities are currently making efforts to clean up the air on shore, by requiring ships to use cleaner fuel near ports, and using shore power, rather than the dirty on-board generators while in port.