AD #3407 – Lithium Prices Set New Record; Lincoln Loses Dealers as It Goes Electric; Ram Ready for Mid-Size Pickup

September 16th, 2022 at 11:53am

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Runtime: 9:58

0:08 Lithium Prices Set New Record
0:37 EU Welcomes Rising Car Sales
1:20 Lincoln Loses Dealers as It Goes Electric
2:44 Ford Teaches the Mustang New Tricks
3:58 Yes, BEVs Are Really Cleaner Than ICE
4:47 Lightyear Claims Aerodynamic Record
6:51 Vitesco Lands Major 800V Inverter Order
7:38 IRA Pushes Hyundai Mobis To Make More EV Components in U.S.
8:22 Ram Ready for Mid-Size Pickup

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24 Comments to “AD #3407 – Lithium Prices Set New Record; Lincoln Loses Dealers as It Goes Electric; Ram Ready for Mid-Size Pickup”

  1. Buzzerd Says:

    There are lots of reasons for RAM to get back into the small or mid size trucks segment, are there any against?

  2. DanChester Says:

    It is hard to believe that Ford’s lawyers OK’d the electronic drift brake for the new Mustang. I for one can’t wait to see the first Mustang drifting around corners late at night on the streets of my nearest city. NOT! It is beyond stupid to put such a feature on a street car.

  3. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I still blame Dakota for ruining the compact pickup truck of old. The others had to compete with the midsized Dakota, made their offerings bigger and then they never looked back. Mindful that the midsized trucks of today are terrific, however, they are also the size of the full-sized pickup of old. I would welcome the return of a smaller pickup (as I’ve said in the past, ad nauseum) but maintain that wish.

  4. Albemarle Says:

    i love the idea of a drift brake. Growing up and still living with snow and unpaved roads, I have missed the handbrake for efficient travel. Glad to see it coming back.

  5. Buzzerd Says:

    Many Mustang owners asked for the rev feature on the key fob, their neighbours??? Not so much. I like the e brake, should be more popular, especially with vehicles driven in the winter. I think Subaru does or did but that feature in the Impreza.

  6. johno Says:

    I wonder how that chart for bev and ice would look like if the ice was running on E85, i would like to know if anyone can tell me where to find out, i have a van that runs on E85 but Maine stations do not carry E85

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    6 You aren’t missing much by not having E85 available, because it’s normally not enough cheaper to make up for the lower mpg you get. E85 needs to be less than ~75% of the price of E10 to make fuel cost per mile lower.

  8. Roger T Says:

    I wonder how plug-in cars fare with lifetime carbon footprint. Double the hardware, mixed use with emissions. Probably still ahead of straight ICE, but break even miles is likely to be much higher.

  9. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I’m thinking that Lincoln is on the road of ” Death by a thousand cuts”. No excitement in and at the brand. I wonder if this is a planned retreat.

  10. Lambo2015 Says:

    2 I’m sure that having a car with the capability to drift doesnt exclude anyone from law enforcement. Its the same for Ford Raptor having ability to rock climb or Challenger Hellcat having 1/4 mile times in the 10 sec range. Anyone foolish enough to utilize those features on public roads take the risks of a reckless driving ticket. Yeah doesnt mean it wont happen, but I also dont think they shouldnt offer it to appease the few whiners.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I wouldn’t know how to use that electric “drift brake,” but I know how to use a mechanical hand brake on ice and snow. Those are getting rare, though. Current Corvettes, Porsche Caymans, and Toyota Highlanders have electric parking brakes that are intended to be used when parking, and nothing else. I never use them, except when parking on hills.

  12. Lambo2015 Says:

    8 One of the aspects of BEVs they dont really talk about is the recycling part. An engine block and even transmission is a series of castings and machined metal parts. They can be melted down separated and reused fairly simple. Recycling batteries is very time consuming and labor intensive. After all its a stored energy device. It involves hazmat suits and a very careful dismantling. They contain hundreds of small lithium cells and the recycling process using the pyrometallurgy technique shreds them into a black mass then they are heated, and the chemicals and lithium and manganese burn off leaving the heavier metals Copper, Nickel and Cobalt are left behind. These are separated using acid baths.

    If my math is correct it takes about 35 lbs of lithium to make a 100Kw battery. So at the price in todays show about $1,257 of the battery is lithium and that used to be $377. Going to make it really hard for them to get the prices down at this rate.

  13. Buzzerd Says:

    @11 That’s exactly what I was thinking, E brakes in snow are a lot of fun. The old cars you could get a little sideways in turns, it was great but all the new cars have electronic nanny’s the kill all the fun.

  14. johno Says:

    thank you 7 but is it that much cleaner then gas? I have had 2 E85 vans and wondered if they run that much cleaner, it seem 10 t0 15 years ago that was the way to go to cleaner engines.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 I’d expect exhaust to be a little cleaner with E85, but I haven’t seen actual information. As far as “good or bad for the engine,” the car companies selling flex fuel vehicles say E10 and E85 are equal.

  16. JoeS Says:

    If I remember right the Ford Focus RS (350hp AWD hot hatch) had a drift setting on its traction control menu. I thought the option was stupid but still lusted after the car.

  17. johno Says:

    thank you 15

  18. Norm T Says:

    I have run E85 on a GM Ecotec 2.0T and enjoyed the cleaner air on cold morning starts. It is usually a $1.00 cheaper to run than premium but still higher octane that turbocharged engines love. You could probably do a search on gas buddy app to find prices.

    The PHEV can work in your favor for shorter daily driving. Our 2018 CT6 2.0E plug-in usually sees 40-50 miles on EV only and 40 mpg when running 2.0T engine. We regularly see 3,000 miles per tank and over 200+ mpg. The cost to charge the battery at home overnight is .85 cents for those 40 miles. It would cost over $3.60 for a gallon of gas to go 40 miles. So the pay off can be really quick.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 The CT6 PHEV seemed like a nice “alternative” option that would work well for a lot of people, as it does for you, but they sold it in the US only briefly. Maybe they still sell it in China.

  20. wmb Says:

    Wow! I had a question about what Lincoln dealerships yesterday and today, that question was answered! Thanks Sean, you and your team at AL, keep up the good work. We appreciate all the effort that goes into keeping us in know! Thanks again!

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Lincoln has been losing dealers for a long time. Years ago, the local Ford, Lincoln, Toyota, Honda dealer dropped Lincoln, or were forced to. Maybe it coincided with the Jaguar-based LS, though the T-bird would have been similar.

  22. Bob Wilson Says:

    Speculation but the price of battery elements is probably driven by sudden demand by legacy manufacturers. The premium ICE market, traditionally a high profit margin product, is being dominated by higher performance, quieter, affordable EVs by companies that have no legacy, ICE overhead costs.

    The newer EV companies can and have to a greater or lessor extent, optimized their supply chains for batteries and business practices that minimize dealer and union costs. Inexperienced like Lucid and some shady operators like Nikola are unlikely to succeed. But as Deming said,’Survival is not guaranteed.’

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    22 Lucid has a great car, and the Saudi government’s money, so I expect them to keep going. Yeah, Nikola and some others, probably not.

  24. Ukendoit Says:

    19) I heard the CT6 PHEV went out of production in Feb 2020, due to poor sales and that’s when GM retooled the Detroit/Hamtramck facility for the electric Hummer.