3 Comments to “AAH #627 – Is Toyota Crazy Or Can Hybrids Save The ICE?”

1. Nc Says:
   December 15th, 2022 at 4:10 pm

   Good show, Only forgetting the wonderful S curve up for EV and down for ICE. When you cut the volume for ICE, they become real expensive fast.

2. Frank Bohanan Says:
   December 15th, 2022 at 4:21 pm

   John, the “laws on the books” (such as the CA “ban” for 2035) still allow for use of some ICE engines. The CA law allows up to 20% PHEVs (which will still generate emission credits) plus there will always be exceptions for emergency vehicles and the like. The issues of cost, weight, charging time, and charger availability will continue to be problems for a very long time. They are inherent to BEVs. Notice I didn’t include range, that’s no longer an issue for most who will opt for an EV now.

   EVs will have their place, but they can’t/won’t meet all needs. PHEVs, despite their added complexity, will be a better alternative for most. Especially those who can only afford a single vehicle. They have MUCH smaller, more simple, lighter, and less costly batteries which can be charged MUCH more quickly (in addition to self-charging by the vehicle). They allow very substantial operation in EV mode (“zero” local emissions), yet retain the ability to go long distances and/or tow, etc., without having to stop often for lengthy recharging. The reduced cost of the smaller battery will largely offset the added complexity, as could elimination of components such as the alternator and starter motor. Combine these and other factors such as drop-in synthetic carbon-neutral fuels, hydrogen (especially for larger, heavier vehicles), and BEV market share will very likely not meet projections. No matter what the laws say.

3. Howard Remeta Says:
   December 15th, 2022 at 4:44 pm

   Toyota advertises the RAV4 and Hylander like crazy. They NEVER advertise the Venza. Are they interested in selling them or will they just discontinue them again. It seems like a very good car.