AD #3647 – UAW Plans Targeted Strike at Specific Plants; Ford Reveals Updated F-150; Hyundai To Adopt Gigacastings

September 13th, 2023 at 11:54am

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Runtime: 9:43

0:00 UAW Plans Targeted Strike at Specific Plants
0:57 Ford Says New UAW Offer Is Most Lucrative in History
1:52 EU Launches Investigation into Chinese EVs
2:38 Hyundai/Kia Face Another Lawsuit Over Vehicle Thefts
3:57 Ford Reveals Updated F-150
7:15 Hyundai To Adopt Gigacastings

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22 Comments to “AD #3647 – UAW Plans Targeted Strike at Specific Plants; Ford Reveals Updated F-150; Hyundai To Adopt Gigacastings”

  1. Norm T Says:

    “…An example of the aforementioned advanced casting can be seen in a ribbed aluminum casting, which begins at the shock tower and runs to the rear of the CT6. Hester explains normally this structural component would take some 35 pieces to assemble, but with the new casting technology, it’s one single piece. He also noted that there are no less than 13 high-pressure die-cast aluminum pieces in the structure of the CT6. Including the transmission tunnel… GMAuthority 2015

  2. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    I was looking at the refresh last night. It is a much needed refresh but what caught my eye was towing and payload. Those are up to the 1 ton trucks of yesteryear. Even though Ford did not announce pricing of anything but the base model, I suspect it is going to be very pricey. The base 2WD model was around a $4K jump for instance. I suspect that will hold true across the line up which makes it cost wise a non starter for me. Most of these trucks are off my radar because of cost these days. Very capable vehicles, but $10k too expensive.

  3. George Ricci Says:

    After CT6 large castings came the Corvette C7 and C8 large castings.

  4. Sean McElroy Says:

    @Norm T – I wish GM would have put more resources into their castings. If it had kept improving them and using them on more high volume models, we’d be calling GM the large casting pioneer and not Tesla.

  5. Sean McElroy Says:

    GM’s castings are not the type that require house-sized machines, like Tesla. The castings in the Model Y replace something like 150 stamped components.

  6. Lambo2015 Says:

    In my opinion the Hyundai and Kia lawsuits are ridiculous and baseless. If there is no government regulation or specification that requires engine immobilizers than it seem silly to assume because thief’s have discovered a way to do something illegal and shared it on social media that somehow that becomes their problem. This becomes a law enforcement problem not a manufacturers problem. As for the insurance companies. Go kick sand! You are collecting money on basically a bet that nothing will happen. So when something does happen and you lose you want to go after the manufacturer because you figured wrong. I’d throw their case out so fast their heads would spin.

    As for the Ford emblem it looks like it was a cost saving move as white is certainly cheaper than chrome and a flat emblem would be cheaper than the old domed design. If they save 25 cents on each emblem assuming 2 per vehicle and the sell about 4.2 Million vehicles that a $2,100,000 savings. Could be why they didn’t have much to say about it.

  7. Ron Says:

    Wow. Castings, I wish you would play some of the commentary when Tesla first announced the casting. I remember them saying what a bad idea it was to use large castings. It took a great new metal and a great new press.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2 $38,565 for a regular cab, bottom trim level, which probably won’t actually exist. This article has base prices for all of the trim levels:

    https://www.autoblog.com/2023/09/13/2024-ford-f-150-pricing-revealed-configurator-opens/#:~:text=As%20expected%2C%20the%20base%20price,more%20equipment%20for%20that%20price.

    Making the 2.7T standard could account for much of the price increase of the base truck. Almost no one will need the class 4 hitch, but it’s probably cheap to add, if you put it on all of them.

  9. Drew Says:

    The Ford emblem change is meaningless unless the new one fixes the quality issue of the old one (fading).

    When a company is not proud of their logo (not making it durable), I really question the integrity of the rest of the vehicle.

  10. Albemarle Says:

    I expect the EU will find massive government support from the Chinese car companies, justifying a reciprocal duty when imported into Europe. With no native car industry to protect, I hope Canada sticks with its low tariff. I’d like to see personally what all the interest is about.

  11. Lambo2015 Says:

    9 Thats probably a bigger reason why Ford didnt say much about the emblem change. As that would highlight the fact that they are aware of the horrible quality of the current emblem fading.

    Another un-named manufacturer was buying their emblems from China. They had quality problems too and when asked to fix the problem the Chinese company told them they would get it fixed a few weeks. (unacceptable answer for normal suppliers) Must have gotten a really good price because I found it amazing they continued to ship luxury cars with bad looking emblems. The one symbol on the car that identifies your brand and they get if from the supplier with crap quality and even worse customer service. I wonder who was making the Ford emblems.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 Canada doesn’t have major “local” OEMs, but they have a lot of operations by the U.S. and Asian companies. Also, Canada has the huge supplier Magna. I’d think if Chinese imports started hurting those operations in a big way, there could be sentiment for protectionism.

  13. Steve Henderson Says:

    Ford increased the F150 hybrid production … what about the Lightning? I don’t know anybody that owns one.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 Tripling Lighning production by this fall. Maybe subject to change, with a strike.

    https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2023/08/01/ford-restarts-expanded-rouge-electric-vehicle-center–f-150-ligh.html

  15. Roger T Says:

    John, nice demonstration yesterday on Model Y assembly. Wow, amazing simplicity, in a way revolutionary but wonder how far you can push this without making the final product feel cheap. No wonder everyone else will go towards giga castings and fewer parts. Once batteries become cheaper, new cars may finally become more accessible once again.

  16. DanChester Says:

    Give credit where credit is due. Tesla did not invent the idea of aluminum castings for vehicle structures although they did resurrect it to good effect. The idea was used at least as far back as 1982 by Robert Cumberford for his Martinique sports car. Two prototypes were built but funding dried up in the wake of the Delorean scandal and the car never went into production. Check out the illustrations in the brochure here: https://www.autopaper.com/1982-cumberford-martinique-sales-brochure-color-photo-portfolio-original.php

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 I have driven a Tesla Model 3, and liked the powertrain, but not much else. To me, the operator interface is dismal, and is getting worse, since they are replacing the turn signal stalk with buttons for you to feel for, or look for on the steering wheel.

    I was reminded about what I think of as “luxury” at a car show this weekend. There was a 1966 Jaguar sedan, with beautiful wood on the dash and tops of doors, some chrome bits surrounding the gauges, etc. I didn’t notice how logical the switches were, but I’m sure it had a switch for the wipers, volume and tuning knobs for the radio, and generally, controls you could work without looking away from the road too much. We’ll see if Tesla continues to dominate EV sales after they have more competition, and if they need to compromise on some of their weirdness, as they did when they started again putting steering wheels in Models S and X.

  18. Lambo2015 Says:

    17 I dont think removing the turn signal stalk would be all bad if the switch was on the wheel within reach of my thumb. I’m sure after a few days a driver would just get used to the location and have no need to look down at the wheel. I’ve done this with all the radio controls on my wheel.
    I will say I dont like buttons for fan control speed and the radio volume. I prefer knobs that I can turn up or down quickly.
    I’ve noticed on a lot of the newer vehicles even with knobs that they dont work for a second or two during start up. Or if you spin them too quickly they dont work well either. It has a haptic feedback that feels like it changed but cannot read the signal that fast. Not a big fan of those either.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 With radio controls, if you hit the wrong button, like while having a different from usual hand position, it won’t result in not signaling, or signaling “right” for a left turn. We should soon know how it works out, but I think Elon is just seeing what he can get away with, in this case, as with calling a level 2 driver aid “full self driving.” They backed off with the idiotic, for a road car, yoke steering control.

  20. Ukendoit Says:

    18, One of the few quirks that I don’t like about my RAM is the electric knobs that you mentioned, though RAM goes one step further. They do have haptic feel, but not only do they not work upon start up, but they also are disabled for 1-2 seconds every time you change stations -which is exactly when you would be inclined to turn the volume up or down! Everything else is great, and I know 1-2 seconds sounds petty, but that would be the one thing I would change.

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    20 There is a short, maybe 1/2 second delay for the horn when you hit the button with my Mini. That normally wouldn’t make any difference, but it should be imnediate, like with a switch and relay.

  22. Lambo2015 Says:

    20 Yep, I was referring to my Ram too.
    It also will not let me turn the radio volume down for a few seconds if I put it in reverse. The rear back up camera comes on and its like its disconnected from the controls to the radio when the camera is on.