AD #1893 – China May Lift Joint-Venture Mandate, EU Wants Similar VW Diesel Payout, Ford Honors 1966 Le Mans Winner

June 27th, 2016 at 11:29am

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- China May Lift Joint-Venture Mandate
- EU Wants Similar VW Diesel Compensation
- Mercedes AMG GT R
- Ford Honors 1966 Le Mans-Winning GT40
- Automotive Hall of Fame’s Unlikely Inductee

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22 Comments to “AD #1893 – China May Lift Joint-Venture Mandate, EU Wants Similar VW Diesel Payout, Ford Honors 1966 Le Mans Winner”

  1. MARSHALL Says:

    A Mercedes GT R? The lawyers at Nissan will surely be filing a lawsuit for trademark infringement shorty. And the Nissan GT-R will still out perform the Merc.

  2. Lisk Says:

    The far-East’s mandate on joint ventures has long been a burden to investors in the west. Many of JVs that are in China had western investor putting of most of the capital and technology with the Chinese partners supplying the workforce and ability to bribe the officials to get the necessary documents and permits.

    If this comes to pass, will GM, VW and others be able to get out of existing JVs and have their own non-JV business going forward? Also, will they be finally able to take the profits out of China?

  3. Michael Bouley Says:

    Ralph Nader is a bold face lier. He rigged a test between the Corvair and a Mercury Comet where I could see the driver of the Corvair purposely over steering the Corvair in the corners making the car swing out in the corners. Such a shame that this guy is being considered for anything but just dropping from all memory.

  4. RS Says:

    I did not realize that the western auto mfgrs could not transfer profits accrued in China into their corporate coffers. If that is actually true, why would they even begin the process? It seems way too restrictive to enter into any agreement with that type of stipulation at the outset. Then, couple that with the very real possibility that China could nationalize the venture at any moment and keep all the knowledge AND the businesses. Thanks – I will just stay in a more accommodating business environment.

    On top of that, there have been several stories of copycat vehicles. The most recent was the Land Rover Evoque coming out of a Chinese factory. The first I was aware of was the Honda CR-Vs coming into Honda dealers for warranty work – and the vehicle did not come out of a Honda factory anywhere in the world!

    Quite a place to do business! Makes Mexico and India look like Snow White. No bribes and no coercion there!

  5. Brett Says:

    Nader was selected for the profound impact he had on the automobile safety narrative of the industry. Not because he is a saint. Not because he was scrupulously honest about the Corvair. I might add that GM screwed the pooch badly in their initial dealings with him. They made him a hero, not him.

  6. David Sprowl Says:

    Ralph Nader ushered in an era that to this day has kept the buying public safe from corporations that otherwise would have simply “paid the going rate” for loss of life. Yes the pendulum at times may have swung to far, but he at least started awareness.

    As to China rethinking their strategy, may have something to do with the western world possibly re thinking theirs.

  7. Cozy Cole Says:

    Back in my high school days a friend was driving his Dad’s corvair home in the city and turnned into the driveway a little too fast and rolled it over in the yard! But then another guy we knew was older and had the turbo Spyder and that was a crazy ride with four of us in it, we took turns so hard that when we would get out the whitewall tires we black! lets face it, the standard model was a POS just like the first Ford explorers and nobody cared. Just ignore it and maybe it will go away!

  8. BobD Says:

    So for VW in Europe… Say the average compensation is $3000 per car time 10 million car, that’s another $40 billion. And I assume every other country in the world where the cheating happen will want a similar “deal”.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    A high school class mate ran off the road when a wheel of his first generation Corvair tucked under. Luckily, he wasn’t hurt. That car was replaced with a 1966 140hp, 4-speed Corvair, which was a fun car, kind of a poor person’s Porsche. The second generation Corvairs were much better, but the reputation was tarnidhed. Even without Nader’s book, Corvair production wouldn’t have lasted much longer than it did.

  10. OMEGATALON Says:

    The European Union wants similar compensation as we here in the United States is getting; but there’s a small wrinkle.. VW did not break emission laws in most EU countries which means they’re not entitled to any money. This is probably another reason why the United Kingdom wanted out of the EU because these guys are all about shaking down any corporation for money.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    VW didn’t break laws as blatantly in Europe, but many of the cars do not even come close to meeting the NOx regs in real-world driving. The rules are probably poorly written, and the testing seems to be even more under the control of the manufacturers in Europe than in the U.S.

    Yeah, maybe the Brits voted to leave the EU, so they could have even worse air quality in the cities than they already have. No, I’m not serious about that, but it increasingly seems that Europe’s having so many diesel cars is not a good thing. They are more efficient than gas cars, but it may be impossible to clean them up well enough to have decent air quality in big cites, with millions of them.

  12. MJB Says:


    Add to that one huge cease and desist from Porsche for that blatant rear-end styling rip-off. I can’t be the only one who sees the striking resemblance.

  13. Chuck Grenci Says:

    The Europeans need to follow their own laws, not pick and choose the ones they want to adopt from North America (when it suits their purpose). They need to sue, separately; as there are other instances when they just say, ‘oh, those crazy Yanks’, we’d never want to do that.

    Just bought an XT5; I know I like it (a lot), won’t know whether I love till I get some miles under my belt.

  14. Jonathan Says:

    Force the Chinese to joint ventures in America or get massive tariffs like they did to foreign companies to sell in China for twenty years while they stole all the technology …

    Trump better win the election and kick butt on the Chinese bull rap they have been getting away with for two decades…


  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    If Trump wins the election, the world wide market crash will be 10x the one resulting from from Brexit, given his desire for a trade war to end all trade wars. BTW, Apple wasn’t forced by the Chinese government to contract a Taiwani company to make all of there stuff in China.


  16. W L Simpson Says:

    Airport rented a new Corvair. On the open road, 2 adults ,4 kids, 65 MPH , I could turn the wheel 1/4 either way w/o affecting it’s direction. We had liftoff.

  17. RS Says:

    The Ford GT is absolutely gorgeous. So nicely proportioned and now a Lemans winner again. Much more pleasing than the AMG GT-R. Not sure about the performance match between the two. Now that would be an interesting grudge match!

  18. Eric Brunner Says:

    I wonder how this Merc compares to the pace car for Formula One that Bernd Maylander drives. I worked at a Mercedes Canada High Perfomance School that was at the Shannonville Race Track near Kingston Ontario and Bernd was there one year to help feature the AMG line to Mercedes customers. He said that he would be going as fast as he could when leading the F1 cars on yellow laps while they were just idling as they were behind him! I imagine every year that AMG coupe supplied to him was faster but still he had a job giving them enough speed. I would suspect that some of the design learned from the pace car (F1 calls it a safety car) would apply to this street car.

  19. Eric Brunner Says:

    I am also one of those Corvair owners who would not be too happy about Ralph Nador. My first new car after graduating from University was a ’64 Corvair Spyder coupe. GM didn’t talk about it, but it had the transverse leaf spring as a camber compensator to keep the rear wheels from tucking in in hard cornering. Just like the aftermarket spring for VW’s and 356 Porsches.

    Of course, the 2nd generation Corvairs starting in ’65 had the rear end of the Corvettes so handling was vastly improved. Still loved driving mine in club rallies and auto slaloms. Eventually traded it in for a new ’66 Lotus Cortina which I still have.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 Eric

    Were Lotus Cortinas sold in the U.S. through Ford dealers?

  21. Chris Says:

    Why are the owners of VW vehicles getting compensated? How were they harmed? The environment is the one suffering! Fix the cars or get them off the road.

  22. BobD Says:

    21 – The owners are getting compensated because they were damaged by VW, as the market value of their cars decreased by all the negative publicity. Plus after the fix (if there is one), the performance and fuel economy is likely to be less, and the durability of their emission hardware/engine will likely suffer, causing increased cost of ownership in the long run. If you bought a car in good faith from VW, and you found out they purposely did something that devalued it by several grand, wouldn’t you want to be compensated?