AD #2025 – EPA Decides to Keep Standards, First EV Finishes Dakar Rally, Most Loved and Hated Car Models

January 17th, 2017 at 11:46am

Runtime: 7:40

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- EPA Decides to Keep GHG Standards
- Tesla’s Unique Prize Referral Program
- Chevy Helps Create Full-Size LEGO Batmobile
- First EV Finishes Dakar Rally
- Nissan Titan Sales Shoot Up
- Most Loved and Hated Car Models

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23 Comments to “AD #2025 – EPA Decides to Keep Standards, First EV Finishes Dakar Rally, Most Loved and Hated Car Models”

  1. G.A.Branigan Says:

    I’m hoping Trump dials back the epa and their gestapo tactics.They have gone way over bounds,especially with home/land owners. Sorry snowflakes,change is coming all the way around.

  2. Lisk Says:

    I find the Lego Batman Chevy commercial quite entertaining. Much better than the bland JD Power ads it’s based on. Kudos to the ad agency for being creative.

  3. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I haven’t seen the whole like/hate CR list, but from the vehicles you listed, I certainly don’t disagree to their relative placings on the list.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It is likely that EPA standards will be “dialed back,” given that Trump is putting an anti-environmental extremist in charge of the agency. Yeah, the EPA has probably gone overboard in some areas, but after 40-some years of car companies saying “we can’t do it,” but then it gets done, and today’s cars are, by far, the best ever.

    I’ve seen CR’s owner satisfaction list, top to bottom, and the results make sense. I have two cars that are high on the list, a Corvette and a Prius, and I would buy the same cars, if I had it to do over. Of the cars at the bottom of the list that I’m familiar with, I’m not surprised that Dart, Compass, and Patriot ranked low. I’m a little surprised that Versa Note is near the bottom. It seems a decent, practical car, for the price. I’m not very familiar with the Acuras and the Infiniti near the bottom.

  5. Dwagner1239 Says:

    Thanks for the correction on the RAM diesel “violation” story. I found this at is a good explanation of what is going on along with pictures and statistics:
    Still could be costly consequences of the whole thing. Wonder if the EPA can be sued for holding up the 2017 certification since, at one time, the diesel was 1/3 of the RAM 1500 sales. Lost sales and revenue!

  6. John McElroy Says:

    #4. Kit, the CR rankings are based on who would buy another car like they have right now. I think one reason the Versa scored low is that it is a cheap, entry level car. Most buyers would aspire to a step up with their next car, not the same cheap-o one.

  7. gary susie Says:

    I hope they don’t cut back because i’m old enough to remember what it use to be like. We don’t want to be like China.

  8. Brett Says:

    The EPA is a demonstrably beneficial governmental agency. I don’t want them gutted or dialed back. I have grandchildren.

    We are entering into a kleptocracy. Don’t attempt to rationalize it.

  9. John Sise Says:

    most loved car: Audi A7

    most hated car: Toyota Prius

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 Huh? Hyundai Genesis is the most loved car it its class, “luxury midsized cars,” with the A7 second.

    Prius is the most loved car in its class, “compact cars.”

    I like the A7, though, for one of the same reasons I like the Prius; it is a hatchback.

    By “most loved,” I’m referring to CR’s owner satisfaction survey, as mentioned in the show.

  11. phred Says:

    Most disliked Any Fiat – poor everything automotive except the styling. Why not just “Fix It”.

  12. Brian Says:

    #7 – Cutting back on the 2025 MPG / emissions requirements wouldn’t make us like China. Lowering the rate of change would still be an improvement over today, and still pretty darn “clean”. Nowhere close to what’s going on in China with their air quality. Many high mileage low emission vehicles are available if you want to do your part and purchase one.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    When I was in Shanghai about 20 years ago, the most apparent pollution was blue smoke from zillions of small motor bikes. Most of them would be “retired” by now.

    Beijing’s pollution is partly from vehicles, but coal burning power plants and industry are probably a bigger source of pollution, as older vehicles are replaced with clean ones..

  14. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Once again I will say,the sky ain’t falling,and I’ll add,we will remain to have the cleanest,freshest air for an industrialized country.Oh,I forgot to add,we also have the best smelling air on the planet ;}>

  15. Albemarle Says:

    It’s hard to judge cars you aren’t familiar with. But thinking back a ‘few’ years, consider how genuinely bad cars like the Austin Marina (parts kept falling off it) or the automatic trnasmission on the early Ford Tempo that would start gear hunting as soon as you started to move was.

    I can’t believe the least liked on the current list would rank anywhere near the dogs of old.

  16. Roger T Says:

    Interesting that the top 3 on CR´s list are American made cars. I´m surprised to see Infinity & Acura at the bottom, these are cars that people pay a premium to get…

  17. JWH Says:

    Consumers Reports Listings – Generally agree with CR list, although somewhat surprised at Acura ILX being disliked so much. The only car on the list that I have personal experience with is the Corvette & I would purchase another if we were in the market. Since current one only has 2000 miles, it may be a significant time before we’re in market again.

  18. Ctech Says:

    Favorite vehicle : Chrysler 300C Worst vehicle : Nissan Versa. Trying to keep the price point below $50k. Current favorite vehicle I own is a 2005 Dodge Magnum R/T. Surprisingly nice ride and versatile hatch. Worst car owned: 74 Subaru

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It looks like you need the CR magazine (Feb 2017) to get the full list, by car categories. The biggest surprize to me, is that Nissan/Infiniti products are at, or near the bottom in many car categories. It’s not just the CVT’s; other CVT-equipped cars are high on the satisfaction lists.

  20. Ziggy Says:

    I agree with the Jeep Compass rating down at the bottom, I had one as a rental for a week and it was awful, couldn’t stand the CVT and the claustrophobic interior of coal black. When they tried to give me another one on a future trip I balked and got them to substitute a Chevy Equinox, which was one of my all time favorite rentals.

  21. Brett Says:


    I think that the failing of the ILX is that it is just too much like a gussied-up Civic and they’ve failed at expunging that lineage. Lincoln syndrome, so-to-speak.

  22. Sam Fiorani Says:

    MY list of hate/love cars would appall all of my car-fanatic friends. As much as I loved the idea of the Merkur XR4Ti, my ’86 was a terrible car (3-speed auto, bad turbo, 13mpg). The best cars were my ’82 Dodge Aries (4-speed, bench seat, 2-door), ’91 Suzuki Swift GT (5-speed), and ’04 Jaguar X-Type (5-speed, 2.5L) were fantastic cars and I should have replaced them with updated versions, had they been available.

  23. Tony Gray Says:

    Coming to this party very late but I really like my Infiniti Q60S AWD Hybrid. Except for its tendency to blow tires at a prodigious rate, I find it quick, comfortable and good looking. I would buy another.