AD #2160 – Maserati Will Electrify Entire Line-Up, U.S. Car Sales Down in July, The Psychological Side of Autonomy

August 2nd, 2017 at 11:54am

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- U.S. Car Sales Down in July
- Maserati Will Electrify Entire Line-Up
- Germany To Fix Diesels with Software Fix
- Daimler Invests in Autonomous Taxi Drones
- The Psychological Side of Autonomy

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21 Comments to “AD #2160 – Maserati Will Electrify Entire Line-Up, U.S. Car Sales Down in July, The Psychological Side of Autonomy”

  1. XA351GT Says:

    It’s funny how sales of 55,000 for one company is a huge success and sales of 54,000 are huge failure for another.

  2. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It would be disheartening to top brass at clearly mainstream Hyundai, that a niche car company like Subaru would outsell them. It’s only one month, but the trend is dramatic.

  3. Len Simpson Says:

    Autonomy won’t fix stupid because stupid drivers ain’t gonna buyem.

  4. Brett Cammack Says:

    Nice to see Mitsubishi strengthening still. We’re loving our new 2016 Outlander SEL and I hear that the 2017 is even nicer.

  5. MJB Says:

    I can tell you now there are MANY drivers who share my wife’s sentiments with regard to full autonomy – “NEVER!”

    I’ve been an Autoline Daily viewer since day one, and a listener to John’s daily morning segment on Detroit’s local all-news AM radio station for even longer. I’ve tried ‘spoon feeding’ my wife info about autonomous cars since John first started reporting on them, but to absolutely no avail! She is utterly convinced that there is no way this side of hell she will ever even set foot inside an autonomous car – regardless of the statistics that prove they (can be) safer than human-operated vehicles.

    I am convinced there are quite likely MANY others of the same persuasion. And we’re only 46 years old. So this is not a phenomenon that belongs to only the over-65 crowd.

    It’s going to take a couple of generations (of people dying off) before we ever get close to the Minority Report or iRobot utopia of 100% full autonomy on our roads. Mark my words. And even then, you’ll still have the occasional guy wanting relive the ‘good-ole-days’ by running his classic fossil fuel burner on the weekend…

  6. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Autonomy will become widespread when it becomes easier, cheaper and offer higher confidence to drivers/riders. Electric cars will become widespread when it becomes easier, cheaper and offer higher confidence to drivers/riders; hey,I think I’m on to something here. There will always be the early adopters but for the rest of the crowd (the majority), money talks and you all know what walks. I believe, the above two will happen, but it is the timing that’s going to be tricky to predict.

  7. MJB Says:

    #5 follow-up.

    Just for the record, I am not exactly itching to jump into a fully-autonomous car myself. I like being in control. It’s part of the whole right-of-passage thing that’s been cultivated into every generation of teenager south of about 1990.

  8. Stevereno Says:

    So guys driving and autonomous cars but talking on phone? Bluetooth not included ?

  9. Stevereno Says:

    IMHO you won’t see autonomous cars till roadways are electronically marked so so system can operate in rain snow and at night all weather conditions .

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I might like an autonomous car, so I wouldn’t need to worry about how much I drink when I go out to dinner, but I’ll always want at least one other car, with a manual transmission, as long as my left leg joints work properly.

    #6–Chuck, yep, money talks, but there is also a lot of totally irrational behavior in vehicle selection, like people buying 4wd pickup trucks in Florida that never haul anything, and never drive off-road, and people like me buying 180 mph sports cars that never see triple digits.

  11. Tuck&roll Says:

    I will give up my internal combustion engine when they pry it from my cold dead hands. Maserati all electric? When will this insanity end? Nothing, nothing equals the BTU of gasoline. These globalist will force the public into these EV cars and for what? We all know, as has been said many times on this program, the internal combustion engine is far from dead. It just keeps improving. And, we need educating about AVs? How about the fact that we are already educated. And we don’t trust the fully autonomous vehicle. Once again, governments and big business are smarter than the people they serve.

  12. Roger T Says:

    #9 – I think the industry is moving to electrification for performance and projections for cost of kWh in storage. Regulatory, pollution control are just catalysts to these changes.
    IC solutions keep improving but incrementally. It costs me around $1 for driving 49 miles in my 2013 Volt, if you were to run a business running costs would certainly come ahead of how we feel about gasoline BTU. Same is true for the average Joe who buys the millions of cookie cutter sedans and SUVs around the world.

  13. Ziggy Says:

    Here’s who will take to autonomous cars like ducks to water: young drivers (mention it is computer controlled and they will wet themselves in anticipation of using it), old drivers (half of them shouldn’t even be on the road due to poor sight, slow reaction times, loss of hearing, etc.), anybody who has to drive in rush hour stop-and-go traffic (what a waste of time and energy going from 0-20-0 every few feet), and people who are bored or disinterested in cars and trucks to begin with. Did I leave anyone out? Yep, most of the driving public, sooner or later will be interested in autonomous vehicles, the real catch will be can they afford it.

  14. MJB Says:

    Hate to break it to you, Ziggy, but that “old driver” segment you mentioned will be the absolute LAST to acquiesce. That segment doesn’t even like the idea of typing their credit card info in to place an order on Amazon. And forget about online banking. They don’t trust any sort of intelligent personal assistant like Alexa for fear that some hacker could gain access to the microphone (or camera) in the device and secretly monitor their comings and goings.

    The ironic thing, however, is that this is the one segment that society needs most to use autonomous cars. But good luck getting them to hand their life and limb over to one…

  15. omegatalon Says:

    European countries who have adopted the Paris Climate Accord say will only permit Zero Emission and Electric vehicles to be sold; thus, every car company in Europe has no choice except to build electric vehicles.

    The question that no one seems to ask is where will Europe get all of the electricity to power all of the electric cars given that they will not use fossil fuels or nuclear to get their electricity.

  16. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I also remain a bit skeptical of where all this electricity is going to come from. Even here in the U.S. where natural gas has boomed and is replacing coal in a lot of places, if you believe in the projection of the amount of electric vehicles that will be produced (and assumingly purchased), there is going to be a big drain and need for (more) power.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    If the charging is done overnight, there won’t be a need for more generating or grid capacity until there are a lot more electric cars.

    When more capacity is needed, I suspect nuclear, along with wind and solar, will be part of the mix in Europe. The Germans still plant to shut down their nuclear plants by 2022, but other countries are still building new ones.

    https://www.euronuclear.org/info/encyclopedia/n/nuclear-power-plant-europe.htm

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    12 “Old people,” like every other democratic, are not alike. I’m semi-old, 71, and as regulars here know, I like cars, including ones with 3 pedals. Still, I would be open to using an autonomous vehicle, if they are perfected during my lifetime. Also, I use on-line banking, automatic deposit, automatic bill pay, and I order stuff on-line using a credit card.

    We all adjust to change. I remain doubtful that truly autonomous cars will be available at “affordable” prices during my lifetime, but if they are, I would be quite open to using them.

  19. MJB Says:

    #18 – My apologies, Kit. Certainly didn’t mean to generalize with my comments there. You, my friend, are one of the few exceptions to the rule. I was primarily using my 74yr old dad as an example. But I still posit that the vast majority of folk in your demographic fit that bill.

  20. BobD Says:

    #16 – Solar is likely the answer and it is within just a few years of being completely competitive in a lot of places (right now, it still needs incentives). You know it is getting close when all the utilities across the US are frantically lobbying for legislation to protect them, and they are getting it because of the growth of solar. The state of Hawaii has basically stopped all new solar from being added to the grid because it is impacting utility profits.

  21. veh Says:

    I’m with those who think the olds (let’s say SS recipients as a definition) will adopt autonomous if it’s available. Mid-boomers like me are fairly comfortable with technology and would rather have an option to giving up the keys when the time comes.

    In my case, if I age like my dad who is 87 and still hasn’t lost a step driving, I’ve got at least 25 years– hopefully it will be all sorted out by then.

    Subaru outselling Hyundai is indeed a story. Even if you add Genesis, Subaru still wins, with fewer models. A great example of knowing who you are and who you want as customers