AD #2185 – Green Cars to Hit Milestone, Porsche’s U.S. SUV Sales Collapsing, How Land Rover’s Activity Key Works

September 7th, 2017 at 11:31am

Runtime: 7:04

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- Green Car Sales to Top Half Million
- Nissan Expects to Double LEAF Sales
- EV Credits Running Out for Some
- Detroit Plans Autonomous Shuttle Test
- Porsche’s U.S. SUV Sales Collapsing
- Bosch & MAHLE Dump Turbo Business
- How Land Rover’s Activity Key Works

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20 Comments to “AD #2185 – Green Cars to Hit Milestone, Porsche’s U.S. SUV Sales Collapsing, How Land Rover’s Activity Key Works”

  1. John Says:

    Could just be me, but has anyone looked at the cost of Porsche’s SUV’s. They’re not the cheapest vehicle on the lot. I understand a price premium for specialty sports cars, but more mainstream offerings have a different scenario.

  2. MJB Says:

    I think Porsche’s SUV sales drop-off may be due to a lack of significant styling updates.

    Say what you will about the Cayenne’s latest refresh, it still looks like the same ole Cayenne. With SUVs across all brands getting major facelifts on regular 3 to 5yr cycles, Porsche really cannot afford to stick to the largely stagnant formula it has used for decades with its sports cars. It works for the 911 because the 911 is an aspirational vehicle. The 911 is in a world (almost all) by itself. The Cayenne, however, is now just another offering in the ever-expanding world of luxury SUVs. That vehicle needs more expression!

    I think Maserati’s Levante has pulled many would-be Cayenne buyers. And just wait until the Lamborghini Urus hits showrooms! (hopefully they change that name though)

  3. Chuck Grenci Says:

    While 500,000 electric sales cracks a barrier, when calculating for a 16 million SAR, that still only gives the “electrics” a 3.1 market share. While that is bound to increase, sales are still very low (as electric sales have hovered at 3% for some years now). Let’s see what happens after the incentives wane. I’m not against them (electrics) just trying to show some perspective.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It’s good to see that a line of CARS are selling well, even if only from a niche marketer like Porsche.

    As others have said, the Porsche SUV’s have a whole lot of competition, and, at some point, the Porsche name and logo are worth $20K to fewer people.

  5. BobD Says:

    Sean, have you been watching old Monty Python movies to perfect your running style?

  6. Brett Cammack Says:

    The “Activity Key” looks awkward to use and the answer to a question nobody asked.

    They’d be better off embedding the fob circuitry in and OtterBox case to fit the iPhone. People always have their phones with them, pockets or not.

    I love the fob system on the new Outlander. Simple and invisible. I have it hanging on my bag as my wife is usually driving it, but on the weekends, I release the fob from the emergency key and stick it in my pocket. I never touch it again until I put it back on the key Sunday night.

    I wish it had memory for the two driver’s preferred settings, but for < $22k I can't complain.

  7. Buzzerd Says:

    EV credits- is there any chance that a level of government will renew or up the amount of credits?

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The electronic keys for my Prius, Mini, and Corvette have simple, mechanical keys that plug into the electronic fob. The keys are waterproof, and are fine to have in my pocket while swimming, surfing, or whatever. It is kind of cumbersome to use the one with the Corvette, due to the nature of a Corvette, but is very convenient to use with most cars that have such arrangements.

  9. Marshall Says:

    Autoline is turning into a fear monger. It doesn’t surprise me one bit that sales of the Cayenne dropped last month. There is a MAJOR redesign coming early next year for the Cayenne, so people are holding off making that big purchase until the new model arrives.

  10. merv Says:

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  11. G.A.Branigan Says:

    John or Sean;
    When did autoline detroit first air on the speed channel? That’s when I first found your show. I do remember having Dish at the time,I had to get up and watch it at 0430hrs. I can’t remember now if it was on saturday or sunday.

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  12. Victor West Says:

    Could the lack of the diesel in the US market cause the decline of the Porsche SUVs?

  13. Drew Says:

    While I agree the Porsche utilities are looking “long in the tooth” even when refreshed, they still account for more than half of Porsche’s total US sales and their profits help fund investment in their iconic sports cars.

    Ford’s keyless entry keypad is magnificent. It quickly becomes one of those features/functions that an owner can integrate into his/her lifestyle. Kudos.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 Is Ford’s key pad still hard wired to the car? I’d heard that it now talks to the keyless entry receiver, and has a non-replaceable battery, and would quit working after about 7 years. I could have heard bad information, though. Anyway, the key pad was my favorite feature on a Grand Marquis I had for a couple years.

  15. Todd T Says:

    EV credits phasing out won’t affect the prices consumers pay so long as other car makers continue to get the credits. There will just be lower profits (or bigger losses) to those car makers who no longer have them.

  16. Drew Says:

    Kit, factory-installed applications are hard-wired. Dealer-installed (e.g., Escape, Focus, Mustang) are battery.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Drew, thanks for info.

  18. Steven Says:

    @#12 I doubt it.

    I do think Autoline should always report YEARLY percentages on sales. A month can always be misleading. A manufacturer can have some color,trim level shortages, or other temporary issues that show a dip. Just my 2 pennies.

  19. Lambo2015 Says:

    @7 I wouldn’t be surprised if the government renews/expands the EV incentive program to keep the ball rolling. Maybe by a reduced amount but if they want to truly support this they need to support it as they do with other programs. Our government spends a ton on buying and or subsidizing solar panels wind turbines or even if people install a more efficient furnace or hot water heater so not sure why people get so bent over subsidizing EV sales. I mean the EPA requires the automakers to build tiny cars no one wants to offset the SUV sales so why not?

  20. Dave Foley Says:

    Who knew our host was such a natural athlete? Talk about perfect running form! ;) Hahaha! I love that the self deprecating humour is not out of style at the juggernaut Autoline! Haha! Well done!

    On that “activity key” story though. It seems like an interesting idea, but to me, the extra steps to make it work, are just odd. Couldn’t just have a “Lock” button on it under the rubberized skin? After all, all it’s doing is locking and unlocking the vehicle, right?

    Also, If there is current technology to allow keyless unlocking and locking with the actual key fob or “Key”, why can’t the same thing be done with the wristband?

    The whole system seems like it was invented by the same guy that invented one of those bizarro-world shifters out there. Lets make something simple and well understood, more complicated just for the sake of making it more complicated.

    And your comment about Ford’s keypad entry system are spot on. It does the same thing, and probably costs a whole lot less to build, integrate, and purchase.

    Keep up the good work!