AD #2190 – Big Truck Sales Up, Ford Testing AV Interaction, Unique Process Helps Form New Continental GT

September 14th, 2017 at 11:43am

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- August Heavy Truck Sales
- Tesla Delays Electric Semi Intro
- Ford Tests How People Interact w/ AVs
- Self-Driving Trust Issues
- Unique Process Helps Form New Continental GT

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21 Comments to “AD #2190 – Big Truck Sales Up, Ford Testing AV Interaction, Unique Process Helps Form New Continental GT”

  1. G.A.Branigan Says:

    I think some of the ‘trust’ issues in regards to autonomous vehicles stem from the Tesla ‘autopilot’ accidents.It was a misleading name from the start,and I think people equate that to all AV’s. Just a thought.

  2. G.A.Branigan Says:

    The lines on the Bentley remind me of a 67 Mustang fastback.

  3. Lambo2015 Says:

    Self driving trust issues will always be a problem because people like sensationalized news. They could reduce road fatalities by 90% but the first time someone is hit by a driverless car the media will spew doom and gloom. It’s no different than air travel which has a far superior record in comparison to driving yet when a plane crashes its huge news. Maybe because 200 people die at one time, even though about 3000 die on roads worldwide per day.
    Elevators used to be manually operated and are automated. Detroit’s people mover is a driverless train. I don’t think gaining trust will be as difficult as maintaining it after the first major hack or failure of the system and lots of people die. It will happen and yet still be safer than manually driving.

  4. WineGeek Says:

    Trust issues, for sure. I own a 2017 Prius Prime that has Lane Departure Warning with Steering Assist. The Steering Assist doesn’t work as it does in every other Toyota, as a matter of fact it really doesn’t assist at all. It allows you to go across lanes instead of doing what every other Toyota model does keeping you in your travel lane. The Toyota dealer service manager has admitted that this is a problem, but Toyota denies it even exists. I have driven a few Prius to see if it was only my car but it is a problem in Prius in general.
    I think it’s time to file a class action suit against Toyota for this pretty dangerous safety problem.
    I can see why people don’t trust autonomous cars.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 My Prius non-prime has lane departure warning, but no steering assist, just beeping. Do all Primes have steering assist, or are they supposed to have it?

  6. Albemarle Says:

    We don’t yet have autonomous cars, so how relevent is a survey on their trust? File this in the “it’s Thursday, my boss wants news, so let’s do a survey.” Well, it fills space, which is what it’s all about with ‘news’ on the internet.

    Let’s think about the next useless survey: Will you be comfortable taking your flying car through a hurricane? What fuel economy will you require before buying a flying car? You could go on forever.

    Personally, I want my car to wash, dress and feed me on the way to work, and I would trust it implicitly, of course. All for $500 extra, of course.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Here is what is happening to some of the VW diesels. They are hitting the road in southern Indiana.

    http://autoweek.com/article/vw-diesel-scandal/unsurprisingly-audis-and-vws-were-stolen-silverdome-parking-lot?utm_source=DailyDrive20170914&utm_medium=enewsletter&utm_term=image-center&utm_content=body&utm_campaign=awdailydrive

  8. jshockee Says:

    While I welcome some of the collision avoidance technology, it will be hard to “trust” an autonomous car when I can’t trust my PC (which has been evolving for almost 40 years now and should be a mature technology) to start reliably, not freeze up or do other random stuff. And if a companies and like Equifax, government agencies and other “secure” websites seem to be hacked at will, I’m positive I want my hands on the wheel. We still have airline pilots for a reason in spite of all the redundant safety systems.

  9. phred Says:

    The voice of the woman at the auto show is probably the most “grating sounding” of any spokesperson in memory. They need a better ‘professional voice”.

  10. MJB Says:

    I think the only people truly perplexed by peoples lack of trust with/of fully autonomous cars comes from people who simply can’t imagine why people wouldn’t trust them. And the bulk of those folk are the naturally curious (who will always be game for trying something new), and the data-driven crowd (who will trust anything that has been “proven” on paper to work).

    The problem is though, for each naturally curios consumer, you’ve probably got 2 naturally suspicious consumers. And most naturally suspicious people will NOT be won over by facts and figures. Not when it comes down to matters of life or limb. They need to know for themselves that it works – not hear about it secondhand or through mortality rate statistics.

    It’s called the ‘Doubting Thomas’ syndrome. Or, for the uninitiated, “…until I put my own finger in the nail prints in Jesus’ hands, I WILL NOT believe.”

  11. Lambo2015 Says:

    @10 When it comes to technology trust develops over time. We trust our cruise control, ABS, back up sensors and even our lane departure warnings unless your in a Prius Prime. :-)
    Working in a manufacturing environment where robots move fast enough to knock you across the room. They weld, use torches and even Laser cut metal consistently day in and day out. They used to be closed off but are now being used in conjunction with operators in some cases.

    Auto Assembly plants have been using driverless tugs and material handling equipment for years. Most of this equipment is heavy-duty and has the ability to severely hurt if not kill someone. Yet workers have gotten used to (trust) walking around and working with autonomous equipment

  12. MJB Says:

    Completely off-topic here, but over the past 3 days I’ve seen 2 Alfa Romeo Stelvios on the road. One parked, belonging to a fellow parent in my son’s flag football league.

    Sean/John, I’m not sure if I recall, but have you guys mentioned this vehicle before? Because it caught me completely off guard. Nice looking little SUV…

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I remain skeptical of completely autonomous cars, because of the complexity of dealing with everything that can happen, and all of the different conditions on public roads in real traffic. Almost anything else is much easier to automate, whether airplanes, trains, industrial robots, lawn mowers, etc.

    The lane departure warning of my Prius non-Prime works, as it does, it apparently, in WineGeek’s Prime. He was talking about the steering assist not working as expected. Reading about it, it is not supposed to work at speeds below ~40 mph, in “tight turns,” and maybe some other conditions. I’m not sure I’d want steering assist anyway. I usually have the lane departure warning, and auto headlight dimming turned off on my car.

  14. FSTFWRD Says:

    @#2 GA, I don’t seem to see any resemblance it the two cars. Although, both are beautiful designs.

  15. Roger T Says:

    People don’t know it but we all rely on autonomous vehicles every time we fly. In fact most plane crashes happen due to human error, meaning when it’s not in autonomous mode.
    I think adoption rate may start slow but it shouldn’t take too long before everyone that can afford it will get it. That is of course when cars don’t have these ugly attachments, perhaps making these cars look decent will be the main challenge.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 A friend, recently retired from Boeing, worked on “precision flare control” and “profile descent program” aspects of airplane autonomy, 37-39 years ago.

    https://www.nasa.gov/centers/langley/news/factsheets/B-737.html

    That stuff is very VERY easy, compared to autonomously driving a car on public roads with traffic, pedestrians, dogs, bicycles going the wrong way, snowstorms, etc.

  17. G.A.Branigan Says:

    @ FSTFWRD: I didn’t either until they showed the animation of the panels going on and the side view looked like the lines of a 67 mustang fastback.Well,to my eyes.

  18. Chuck Grenci Says:

    G.A., I saw Mustang rear also; might add Camaro rear as the latest iterations tend to be quite similar. Similar, not copied; plus it looks very good (all three).

  19. Lambo2015 Says:

    #8 The hacking possibilities are my concern too. Manufacturers will need to separate/secure the functionality of autonomy and the conductivity from the outside world. I’m not sure that’s possible since they use RF signals from sensors and GPS. If there is anyway in hackers will find it and could ruin the publics trust perception before its ever gets an opportunity to take hold.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2, 18 Whenever I see a Bentley Continental, which is about once a year, it immediately comes off as “special,” and not just because it is a very attractive car. If today’s Camaro or Mustang were as rare as Bentleys, they might strike me the same way, well, until you look at the interior, where the Bentley is in another world from mass market cars.

  21. veh Says:

    “People don’t know it but we all rely on autonomous vehicles every time we fly. In fact most plane crashes happen due to human error, meaning when it’s not in autonomous mode”

    I’d say the fear of autonomous cars is related to the fear of flying: you are giving up control. Everyone knows flying is far safer than driving, but far more people are afraid of flying than driving. Not necessarily rational of course, but certainly true.

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