AD #2234 – Ford Has Too Many Passenger Cars, Citroen Refreshes Cactus, Hyundai To Launch 8 CUVs

November 15th, 2017 at 11:47am

Runtime: 7:17

0:32 Citroen Refreshes Cactus
1:14 Hyundai To Launch 8 CUVs
2:51 BMW Uses VR Goggles in Dealerships
3:37 Continental’s Speakerless Sound System
5:26 Ford Has Too Many Passenger Cars

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20 Comments to “AD #2234 – Ford Has Too Many Passenger Cars, Citroen Refreshes Cactus, Hyundai To Launch 8 CUVs”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    Ford will need 8 models a Extra small, Small, Medium and large. They have a market for Extra small vehicles in Europe and China that will not sell in the US. But I agree that 6 models would be sufficient for the US.

  2. XA351GT Says:

    I thought when Ford went to it’s One World One Ford philosophy that was supposed to happen. In NA Ford has The Taurus(Large) Fusion (mid size) Focus (compact ) and Fiesta (Sub Compact) , and the Mustang ( sporty car) . What really could they stop building and selling here? At least without abandoning a segment altogether ? Personally I’d like to see less of the SUV /CUV land barges that everyone seems to love.

  3. Lex Says:

    I totally agree with you John! These OEM’s are supporting too many models and variations by region. This does not even discuss the variations caused by Left or Right hand drives vehicles and worldwide differing safety standards. This would probably be an excellent topic to diagram and discuss on AAH.

  4. Mac Says:

    I understand buyers moving toward CUV/SUVs, higher ride height, more utilitarian, generally more habitable space. What I don’t understand is the fascination with very small utility vehicles, which seem to fly in the face of what buyers seem to be seeking. The sub-compact models have less room than most compact sedans and have all the utility of a dogsled. I’m awaiting the next generation — perhaps titled micro-compact — utilities which will seat 2 people in front and one grocery bag in the back. Should sport all the comfort and convenience of a skateboard. . . .

  5. Lex Says:

    I have been looking at the 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.4L AWD with Tech Package for a family member. My issue with Hyundai is that their MSRP is way to high for even the base model of this vehicle considering it has very few amenities to offer. The Base 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.4L AWD has an MSRP of $30K. Yes there are rebates and zero financing but this is just putting lipstick on a pig IMHO.

    A fully load 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.4L AWD with Tech Package stickers for $36K. If you want the 2.0L Turbo add $4K. These prices are why Hyundai has had double digit sales losses the last few months. Hyundai should do like GM and take 20% for the MSRP and continue the Zero Percent Financing on all models if they want to move the metal IHMO.

  6. Ed Says:

    Had looked at the Sonoma and Santa Fe when buying, however I am 6ft 4. Did not fit. Toyota still builds larger vehicles. They should look at making at least one model that fits taller / larger people. Even BMW configures their smaller vehicles with seating and such that fits very y’all people. Just better ergonomic engineering. About models time to cut the slowest sellers. That is simple. Ed

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    If Ford wants to drop some cars, they should start with the Taurus. It is not competitive with Impala, Avalon, etc., and hasn’t been for years.

    They sell few Fiestas in North America, but that car is a big seller in much of the world. If the Fiesta continues, they need to add some space to the interior, like a Honda Fit. The Fiesta drives well, at least the ST version, but is not as roomy as most of the competition.

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #4 I know a couple drivers of “very small” CUV’s, an HR-V and an Encore. Both bought them mainly because they find them easier to get in and out of than a car. Also, the smallish footprint makes them easy to park.

    Neither of these people use the back seat often, and transport only groceries, and other stuff that will easily fit inside.

  9. Chuck Grenci Says:

    I think we discussed this topic before, the speakerless sound system; didn’t we agree (or some of us) that by setting a lot of the interior in purposeful motion, premature loosening of panels, etc. would soon begin to create rattles and squeaks.

  10. JB Says:

    AAH question for tommorows show..

    The battery only Hyundai cuv…is expected when?
    Will have approximately how much range?
    Accelerate to sixty approximately how fast?

    Who else uses the same or similiar battery pack?

    What gasoline powered cuv s will it compete with ?

    Not sure if any questions can be answered but thought I’d ask anyway…

    Hyundais on a strong roll.

  11. kurt w Says:

    Wrt Ford and Mustang: as you say, don’t cut it, but perhaps put a 700 – 1000 hp engine into it?
    Might as well join the HP insanity other brands are offering!

  12. Don B. Says:

    I thought the Mondeo died when Ford pulled out of Australia.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    #12 The Falcon died when Ford shut down in Australia. The Mondeo is alive and well in Europe and elsewhere. Mondeo is similar to U.S. Fusion, except Mondeo is sold in more practical body styles, like liftback, and wagon/estate.

  14. BobD Says:

    On Hyundai’s 8 new models… since when are different engine configuration counted as different models?

  15. Ziggy Says:

    If Hyundai really wants to make a splash they should come out with a honest-to-goodness small rear/4WD pickup truck the size of the old Toyotas and Datsuns, they would clean up since nobody is making small pickups anymore, GM had the last chance to do it but came out with the hunchback Colorado/Canyon twins and just added to the mid-size segment of Nissan, Toyota, Honda(barely), etc. Ford will be right in the middle of that mid-size segment also when the new-to-us Ranger gets here.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Ziggy, I think actual small pickups would be an excellent entry point for Chinese companies, but if Hyundai did it, they would sell, if priced properly. Whoever eventually re-introduces a small pickup in the U.S. should sell a standard cab. Anything else just doesn’t look like a pickup truck.

  17. Kevin Anderson Says:

    If Ford drops the Taurus, what will the police drive? As far as the Focus and Escape goes, are they really 2 separate models? I always assumed the Escape was just a jacked up Focus. If it isn’t, maybe it should be. Maybe the solution would be to offer a ‘butch’ Escape and then the same car with a Focus hatch body as a ‘car’. Save on engineering and get more room in the Focus to boot.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Where I am, most state police cars seem to be Chargers, and local police use a mix, with various cars and CUV’s being used.

    I’m sure there is “sharing” between Focus and Escape, but maybe not as much as there could be.

  19. Mark Says:

    Deja view. You did the Continental speaker-less sound system story a few weeks ago.

  20. Ctech Says:

    Most of the Ford police cruisers I see in Florida are the Explorer police units. The officers seem to like it better than the Taurus units and it is less complicated. My question is what happens to the MKT and Flex?