AD #2509 – Ford Reveals All-New Explorer, Valeo Makes Trailers Disappear, FCA to Pay Big Diesel Fine

January 10th, 2019 at 11:52am

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Runtime: 7:03

0:27 Ford Reveals the All-New 2020 Explorer
1:58 Ford & VW to Announces Alliance in Detroit
2:14 Ford to Make Big Cuts in Europe
2:40 JLR Slashing Jobs in the UK
3:43 Valeo Makes Trailers Disappear
4:15 Hyundai Improves Driving for Hearing Impaired
5:18 FCA to Pay About $650 Million in Diesel Fines

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28 Comments to “AD #2509 – Ford Reveals All-New Explorer, Valeo Makes Trailers Disappear, FCA to Pay Big Diesel Fine”

  1. Buzzerd Says:

    Pictograms and buzzing for emergency vehicles! Hey, can we make that standard on all vehicles?

  2. Buzzerd Says:

    Ford Explorer- a friend of mine, now retired, was a officer and dealt with some of the police car fleet issues. Hey was not impressed with the cost of the Explorer brake/signal light costs that they fairly regularly incurred. Was far from cheap and or reasonable.

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The police version of the 2020 Explorer with the 3.0 turbo was fast around a race track in the Michigan SP tests. Reliability? TBD

  4. Larry D. Says:

    You say Ford and JLR will cut “thousands” of jobs each. Even 1,000 jobs cut is a tremendous number, if you think about each of the affected workers and their families. But they were not just “a couple thousand”. I believe Ford will cut over 8,000 jobs in Europe, and JLR, a much tinier company, will cut a relatively Huge 4,500 jobs. I bet the latter will almost all be from Jaguar and Not Land-Rover.

    A lot of these massive job cuts all of a sudden give me the impression of not only market failures of one or more models, but of a climate within the company where they barely know what they are doing.

    In the case of JLR, it is the failure of Jaguar. This is what happens if you go away from your traditional strengths (outstanding interiors, with acres of wood veneer) and make your new Jags looking like cheap Hyundais or Nissans inside.

    In the case of Ford (and soon GM), instead of developing superior products that are not just OK, or even good, but BETTER than ANY competitors, as Honda, Toyota, BMW, Mercedes and Porsche do in their segments, they waste billions on AVs and Mobility nonsense, subscription services, ‘cruise’ etc, and then when they discover, terrified, that they are knee deep in the red, they slaughter a few thousand workers to appease Wall Street…

  5. Drew Says:

    @4 – Ford and GM seem to unleash their talents in the full-size truck and pony car segments. The technology in the new Explorer suggests that same intensity of talent was used. Ford, now, please unleash that talent and mindset on a $20,000 vehicle.

  6. Lambo2015 Says:

    Vehicle sales have been at a good steady pace in the US market and up until last year a constant growth in China. Even with China reaching their peak its a lot of vehicles being sold. I understand the shift from sedans to SUV and CUV which is just a shift in preference. So still not really sure why all the automakers are cutting back with plant closings and laying people off. Can only assume they expect the bottom to drop out. I don’t believe that ride sharing and mobility services will have any immediate negative effect. EVs are not really growing except for Tesla and AV is still years away. I agree that it just seems like they are not sure where to go and are waging their bets by cutting back.

  7. veh Says:

    Would love to see the Valeo technology in action. Backing up our travel trailer is always the most stressful part of the trip. The Ford backup assist on our truck is very good but not perfect

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Brexit may not be helping JLR, with the uncertainty about taxes and delays, involving getting parts to the UK factories from the continent. Yeah, Jaguar has certainly lost their way, as thet decide to compete with their own SUV brand which is the 2nd most recognised in the world, after Jeep.

  9. Larry D. Says:

    I have often wished that we would know not only the overall profits or losses an automaker has, but the individual profits or losses of each of their divisions, and if possible, of each individual model. Sometimes we hear estimates or the CEOs admit how much they lose per car, as the late great Sergio said about the Fiat 500 E ($15,000 per car, and said it to ask buyers NOT to buy them, because he lost so much on each one he ever made!)

    Today my prayers were partially satisfied when the VW Group made (publicly) a complaint about their Bentley brand not pulling its weight, probably is losing money or not contributing enough, do not remember the details).

    Bentley is one of my most favorite (or the most favorite) brands, as when VW took it over, it stopped being just a Rolls Royce Clone with a different Radiator logo, but a distinctly different class of vehicles than most ROllses, having similar levels of really decadent luxury inside, but also having very different engines and especially suspensions and tuning than Rollses, so that a Bentley is a proper Driver’s car, as opposed to a car where the best seat is in the back, as with the Phantom.

    I’d love to know if Lincoln today makes even one dime for Ford. I seriously doubt it. I am quite sure that there are many individual small volume Honda and Acura models that lose $ too, and it is the ‘suckers’ who buy the Accords and the Camrys that subsidize them, as it is the F 150 buyers that subsidize Lincoln buyers, or most of the (now extinct) Ford Car buyers

    I know that if I was interested in buying a new car (or even a used one) I would not be happy about that situation, and would buy a car from a maker all of whose models are pulling their weight.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Britain is Ford’s biggest market in Europe. Could there be a Brexit effect, involving either parts or cars?

  11. Larry D. Says:

    10 Was Ford Britain (or even Ford Europe) at all profitable before Brexit? I don’t remember about Ford, but GM-owned Opel in Europe lost a total of $20 billions before Barra sold it to PSA (for a pittance, I’m sure)

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I doubt if Ford Europe has been profitable in a while. They had 6.x% and declining market share in 2017, not a lot of volume for the number of models, all of them “mainstream” priced.

  13. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    Not surprising about Jaguar Landrover. They kind of bet the farm on their new platform and particularly the new diesel engine. It is not their fault that Diesel is on the way out in Europe, we can blame VW for that. What is their fault is that the new platform was lauched with a myriad of reliability issues and numerous recalls.

    To the point of Larry D, It is also their fault that the interior and exteroir are very average and kind of forgettable. They used to sell with the same reliability issues but at least when it all worked the interiors and ride quality were sublime, almost Bentley like. The only change with the new platform was that the interior and ride are no longer sublime when the car is actually working.

  14. Drew Says:

    @4 – I own a 2005 Jag. Love the polished wood trim and acres of leather. I might be in the market to replace it, just to get updated technology like keyless entry/start and driver assist technology, but I won’t consider a new Jag due the ordinary interiors.

    @9 – It is not an exact science to break-out profits per nameplate. A lot depends on how to allocate overhead costs and R&D costs. If allocated on a volume sale basis, then high volume entry level vehicles are punished. If allocated on an economic margin basis, then low volume luxury and niche vehicles look bad. The fundamental reality is that the R&D costs for regulatiory development/testing necessitate large scale volume to absorb the costs… hence the wisdom of Sregio’s unfinished consolidation crusade

  15. B G Sahner Says:

    A rear drive Ford Explorer ? Excellent ! Hope they bring back the Explorer Sportrac. I had a 2008 model and thought it was the perfect size. Very sorry I ever let it go.

  16. Larry D. Says:

    14 Re the Jag, maybe the big XJ sedan still has a great interior, but the other models i saw recently did not have one square inch of wood veneer inside.

    Re the profits, good points, you do need some min volume to offer a model. I don’t know in the case of Honda if their marketing types grossly overestimated the sales potential of many Honda and esp Acura models. One exception is “Halo cars” where you can charge the cost to the maker’s advertising budget, you know in advance the model will be unprofitable but you still get your $ worth in publicity and image. Bentley is such a “halo” division in the VW group. For Rolls, I believe it is both a halo car, yet also BMW also makes a bundle off it.

  17. Larry D. Says:

    15 yes, it’s great they made the new Explorer RWD. As for 300 (or even 365) HP from a 2.0 lt 4, it falls under the category “what will they come up with next”, maybe in 2040 we’ll get 500 HP from 1.0 lt 3 cylinder engines, but I doubt we will be driving gas and diesel cars much then, the EV revolution will be stronger every passing month and year. You can’t beat the simplicity of the electric motor, there was a comparison between the motor of a tesla and that in a gas Golf, and the Tesla had 25 or so moving parts, while the Golf engine had close to 300.

  18. Ziggy Says:

    Sean,
    What’s that dripping/pooling underneath the new Ford Explorer? Did it just get a wash or is something leaking underneath it? Ford should have been a little more careful before releasing that photo.

  19. Albemarle Says:

    Ford’s problems illustrates the downside of the Ford One system. Good idea, but too many models are just not suitable for multiple markets.

    Sean, I appreciated your international pronounciation of your CES signature sponsor.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 In reading an article about Ford’s troubles in Europe, I learned that Europe didn’t get the current Mondeo/Fusion until a year or two after North America. It would have been a hit in Europe, as a moderately priced, big for Europe car, that looked good, and still does. Also, the mini tall lifted wagon segment is growing in Europe, as in the US, and all Ford has is the Indian, and way too crude for Western Europe echosport.

  21. motorman Says:

    Less expensive way to put your trailer into a tight spot is to put a receive on the front of you vehicle and push the trailer into the spot

  22. Kit Gerhart Says:

    My great uncle had hitch things on the front of has tractors, to back wagons. He was pretty good at backing wagons, which is not easy.

  23. Ukendoit Says:

    21) You could put a hitch on the roof if you have a small vehicle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56XL0TysIn0

  24. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Two thumbs up ‘Uke’. I remember watching Bud when he was just about the only game in town (testing vehicles on T.V.); don’t remember seeing that one though. Good catch. :D

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    23 That is pretty good, a truly jack knife proof design. That should work well for modern cars too.

  26. ChuckGrenci Says:

    General Motors has just announced a press conference where they are to present their future track for production and electrics (they say that Cadillac is going to take the lead). Well, anyway, I guess that might make today’s show (though I’m posting on yesterday’s).

  27. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Oh, here’s a link (in case it doesn’t make today’s show): https://media.gm.com/content/dam/Media/gmcom/investor/2019/jan/Press-Release-1-11-19.pdf

  28. Ukendoit Says:

    I looked for info on that old trailer and found the link (under my name) describing it as a Harmon Shadow Trailer and looks like they made some models for full size vehicles, too. All roof mounted and same articulation as the previous video.