AD #2527 – New Tacoma Looks Like Old One, E-Scooter Injuries on The Rise, Tesla Cuts Model 3 Price

February 7th, 2019 at 11:52am

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Runtime: 7:56

0:54 GM Dangles $25 Million Carrot for Ammann
1:32 FCA Workers Get $6,000 In Profit Sharing
2:08 Tesla Cuts Model 3 Price
3:04 Ram 1500 Multifunction Tailgate
3:39 Daimler Reports Mixed Earnings
4:08 FCA Up In 2018 But Lowers Guidance For 2019
4:41 E-Scooter Injuries on The Rise
5:40 Mercedes Protects F1 Team from Cyber Attacks
6:16 Ram Reveals Chassis Cab HD Trucks
6:52 New Tacoma Looks Like Old One
7:19 Sequoia Added to TRD Pro Lineup

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17 Comments to “AD #2527 – New Tacoma Looks Like Old One, E-Scooter Injuries on The Rise, Tesla Cuts Model 3 Price”

  1. Buzzerd Says:

    While the RAM tailgate looks like it has some nice features I would probably pass, I would be hesitant to trust loading my motorcycle on it and or having the rear tire sit on the tailgate on longer trips. If there was problem due to either operator error or part failure the results could be very expensive.

  2. Larry D. Says:

    A ton of interesting stuff on the show today. The AAH should also be very interesting to see.

    GM Cruise. Was valued at $14.6 bill by whom? The beancounters who bankrupt GM? I’d offer $100 for the whole thing, and when it goes broke I will be out $100 too… What a joke. Their main contribution so far has been to buy half the meager number of Bolts sold every month for their fleet.

    FCA is doing great, and the fact that, despite excellent earnings, the stock dropped a whopping 10% just because the co was honest to warn them abt 2019, looks like a gross overreaction to me, caused not by some panicky billionaires but more likely the result of MINDLESS computer trading.

    E-scooters would be cheap, as you claim, if they were indeed scooters. In my mind, a scooter is a Vespa Piaggio or the like. These little contraptions you show may be popular, but have nothing in common with a PROPER E-scooter. The ones I saw in CHina in 2006 cost $500 and could carry a driver and a passenger and looked like a 7/8ths Vespa in size.

    Not only does the new Tacoma look like the old one, the new Silverado looks like the Silverados in the 90s, which looked fine then, but will not cut it now. No wonder the Ram has clobbered it.

  3. WineGeek Says:

    Sean, I feel that electrics have many practical uses but for people who regularly driver a few hundred miles a day they may never be practical. Even Tesla’s 300 mile quoted range probably isn’t and when it is cold it drops (if my Toyota Prius Prime is any barometer) almost 1/3 in range. I believe that the most practical propulsion for longer distance drivers is a plug in that has a range of say 50 miles. I am not sure if one exists yet, but that combination might alleviate almost everyone’s range anxiety.

  4. BobD Says:

    So is Tesla just moving the goalpost? What happened to the original Model 3 at $35k that was going to cost $27.5k after the fed rebate? Now the goal is to some day, somehow get to $35k which is still $7500 more than promised and hyped.

  5. California BobZ Says:

    California Motorized Scooter Laws

    In California, a motorized scooter, also referred to as an electric scooter, is defined as having:

    Two wheels
    Handlebars
    A floorboard that can be stood on while riding the scooter
    A motor that powers the vehicle
    While a motorized scooter can have a driver’s seat, this isn’t a defining feature of a scooter under California law.

    You can operate a scooter with any class of driver’s license in California; you don’t need a license specific to scooters, but you still do need to have a driver’s license. And while motorized scooters are street-legal vehicles, they do not need to be registered with the DMV or carry license plates.

    While on the road, motorized scooter riders need to obey the same traffic and safety laws as any other vehicle. However, there are also some scooter-specific restrictions in California:

    The driver needs to wear a U.S. Department of Transportation-compliant helmet at all times.
    Scooters can’t be ridden on roads with a speed limit greater than 25 miles per hour, unless there is a bike lane, in which case the scooter can only be ridden within it.
    As with other vehicles, motorized scooters should not be operated on sidewalks.
    There cannot be a passenger on scooters, just the driver.
    Motorized scooters shouldn’t be driven faster than 15 miles per hour on the road.
    These regulations apply to standard motorized scooters. Mobility scooters, on the other hand, can be driven at up to 30 miles per hour on the road. However, this law only applies to mobility scooters operated by seniors or those with a physical disability.

  6. Larry D. Says:

    3 do you have any clue how many of the 250,000,000 drivers (out of the 350,000,000 americans), as you say, “driver (sic) a few hundred (Sic) miles a day”? A PITTANCE. I know, because I have seen the statistics. They may well be less than 1% of the commuters, but in any case much less than 5%. The average commute is 20 minutes, much less than 20 miles.

    But EVEN if you have to drive a couple hundred miles a day, in MANY cases of households who own a single family home with a two car garage, they can easily charge their EVs overnight, and usually also for FREE at work, and EASILY do all their commuting without buying ONE DROP of gas, and at one fifth of the cost.

    But disregard the above. Most EV buyers could not care less about the cost of fuel. Comparing pure EVS with ICE cars totally misses the point.

    Pure EVs do NOT ‘have to’ be price competitive with Dirty cars.

    This is NOT just my opinion, it is proven by the FACTS. many pure EV buyers owned a car worth less than half of what they pay for the EV. Because the two are NOT COMPARABLE. As horses and buggies, who I am sure were very affordable, would not compare with the first Autos, whose owners could not care less about their cost, they bought them because they WANTED TO, and could care less if a horse and buggy is half or even one tenth of the price of the auto.

  7. Larry D. Says:

    4 the model 3 was NEVER claimed to cost $27.5k after the fed rebate, FIRST because there was never a Fed ‘rebate’ but a tax CREDIT (totally different), and SECOND because the law said CLEARLY that after 200,000 units were sold, the tax credit would be cut in half and later totally ELIMINATED, and THIRD, there were 500,000 reservations already for the Model 3 so it was 100% Guaranteed that sooner or later the Fed Tax Credit would be ELIMINATED.

    As for paying $27.5 for an EV, you may have better luck buying an ugly Leaf or an obese Hatch mini-minivan Bolt, but even the Bolt will LOSE or already HAS LOST its $7,500 due to the ton of VOLTS sold over a decade or so. The Model 3 is a FAR SUPERIOR vehicle than any of these two, and far larger too, and above all far better PERFORMING.

  8. John McElroy Says:

    #2. Larry, that valuation for GM Cruise is based on the amount of money that Softbank and Honda paid into Cruise and the number of shares they received in return.

  9. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I think it was Lime that offered scooters in my neck of the woods (Charleston, SC), and it wasn’t too long (less than a week in which they were declared illegal); bet you never thought government could work that fast. Anyway, Lime picked up their scooters, headed over the river to Mt. Pleasant, SC. and deployed them here; again, legislated out of the city pronto. And I think that was a very good move on their (government’s) part.

  10. Larry D. Says:

    8 Thanks John, I appreciate the info.

  11. ChuckGrenci Says:

    I think that the Union negotiations that included wages with incentive bonus is the way to go; as profits go, so goes employees compensation. I think that this is the most fair way to engage the workers with management.

  12. Drew Says:

    Someone’s cap key is stuck again.

    As most leases are written for 10-15,000 miles per year, we can easily estimate the average daily drive distance is 30-40 miles. Yet somehow, our HEV grocery getter has averaged much more than that. Add in a few weekend trips to visit friends/family and the annual miles climbs to 16,000.

    The point about range anxiety is not about the daily grocery getting, but about the weekend trips. At least, it’s that way for us and it’s why we picked a hybrid over a BEV.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3, 12 Plug-in hybrids could be the best of both worlds for many people, using plug-in power for most commutes, but having the “do everything” capability of running on gas. Somehow, though, they haven’t sold well, and the very good Chevy Volt is being dropped.

    Toyota has done their part to reduce sales of Prius Prime. Until recently, they sold them only a few places. I would probably have one, even though I don’t currently wouldn’t have a place to charge it at home, but they didn’t sell them in my area two years ago.

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    These stand up scooters would seem extremely dangerous for use on public streets, though the CA rules would help somewhat, allowing them only on low speed limit streets. I’ve never ridden one, but I suspect I would have a hard time going in a straight line and making accurate turns with one, even though I’ve ridden other two wheeled vehicles many tens of thousands of miles.

    The scooter I have, a Honda SilverWing, will go 100 mph (I’ve never had it over about 80) and weighs about 500 pounds.

  15. BobD Says:

    I didn’t see anything in the Tacoma press release to suggest the 2020 version was anything more than the 2019 version with a few minor tweaks, just like most other carry-over models do every year. So it is not surprising one could not tell the difference between the 2019 and 2020 models and I’m not sure why this was even worthy of mentioning on the show.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 The Tacoma continues to be the best selling “mid-size” pickup, in spite of its being very rough around the edges compared to the Colorado, and I’m sure, the Ranger. In CR’s surveys, the Taco isn’t even too reliable, out of character for a Toyota. Still, it has the reputation, and continues to sell. They may not have a big incentive to completely redo it.

  17. lambo2015 Says:

    #16 It will be interesting to see how each mid-size fairs with the introduction of the Jeep Gladiator. Interest seems to be high so who will lose those sales will probably be a little from all the others. Maybe even some of the wrangler sales.

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