AD #2723 – GM Sues FCA, Continental to Slash ICE Jobs, Hyundai Ioniq EV Gets Significant Increases

November 21st, 2019 at 11:57am

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Runtime: 10:31

0:07 GM Sues FCA
1:13 FCA Will Fight Lawsuit
1:27 Why GM Is Not Going After the UAW
1:55 UAW President Resigns
2:13 BMW, VW & Daimler Fined for Steel Cartel
2:56 Mustang Mach-E Gains Publicity
3:42 Tesla to Reveal Cybertruck Tonight
4:32 Continental to Slash ICE Jobs
5:10 NACTOY Finalists Announced
5:50 Hyundai Ioniq Updated
6:21 Vision T is Hyundai’s PHEV Concept
6:55 Hyundai Tests Mid-Engine Sports Car
7:29 Lincoln Dealers to Get New Look
7:54 Maybach Puts Its Touch on GLS SUV
9:10 Details of the Kia Seltos

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32 Comments to “AD #2723 – GM Sues FCA, Continental to Slash ICE Jobs, Hyundai Ioniq EV Gets Significant Increases”

  1. Lambo2015 Says:

    Car of the year almost has to be the Corvette with such a major change in architecture and just level of interest in the vehicle this year. Utility could be any one of the three as with all SUVs they seem to be so similar that without actually checking them out in person I see very little difference. As for truck of the year I would guess the Gladiator will win also due to the level of public interest and hoopla. However for the money the Ram is probably the better buy.

  2. Lambo2015 Says:

    Tesla cyber truck reveal? Isn’t this it?

    Again, who is asking for these EV trucks? I think most manufacturers are going to be sadly disappointed in the sales of these trucks.

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    1 Yep, definitely the Corvette for the car. They should probably just dispense with having awards, when there is nothing really interesting, as with those SUVs. As far as the trucks, the Gladiator is certainly getting the attention, and it looks kind of cool, but the pricing is crazy. I don’t know if the jury factors that in much, though. John McElroy, are there specific guidelines you are supposed to use, and if so, is “value” one of them?

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Hyundai seems to be secretive about the price of the Ioniq EV, not publishing it, while they publish prices for the hybrid and plug-in hybrid versions. It doesn’t matter much to most of us, though, as they sell the EV version in only a handful of places.

  5. Wmb Says:

    While I’m sure that they will sell every one that rolls off the assembly line, the Machbach GLS is very disappointing, IMHO. At least the Bentayga and Urus look nothing like their ‘body donor’. Even still, Mercedes could have done more to provide greater visual separation from the Machbach “trim” version and the standard model! There is a greater visual difference between the Q7 and Q8, the X5 and X6, as well as the GLE and the GLE Coupe, then this Macbach and the GLS. SMH!

  6. GM Veteran Says:

    Great question Kit. A quick review of the judging criteria would be interesting. Perhaps an upcoming segment on the NACTOY awards, John?

    I’m going with Corvette Stingray, Lincoln Aviator and Jeep Gladiator. An all-domestic group of winners would be nice to see.

    I’m guessing the price for all that “look at me” chrome, paint and wheels on the Maybach is pretty steep. Me, I would pass and buy two or more vehicles for the same total amount that interest me more.

  7. GM Veteran Says:

    Lambo, that rendering looks much more feasible than the previous wild designs I have seen floating around in articles on the net. It will be interesting to see how close it is and what Mr. Musk and his team offer up in this unique market segment.

  8. Kevin A Says:

    My first reaction to the Maybach was “ah, a new Korean SUV”. On reflection though, it looks like a Mercedes with a fake BMW style grill added.

  9. John McElroy Says:

    We’ll be doing a couple of Autoline This Week programs on the NACTOY awards with 6 of the jurors that will air before the awards are announced on January 13.

  10. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3,6 Thinking about it, maybe “value” is not factored in very much in the NACTOY voting, since the expensive, rather than the less expensive version of the new Ford CUV is the one that is a finalist.

    I’ll make an early prediction. The Ford E-Thing will be next year’s “utility of the year,” if it is ready in time to qualify.

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 Thanks. Sounds interesting.

  12. ArtG Says:

    Not long ago, Lincoln dealers that wanted to keep selling Lincolns had to make major investments to their facilities. My dealer invested millions to renovate the whole dealership which took a long time. I can’t imagine them doing this again right on the heels of the recently completed one. Is this another mandatory edict? If so, it seems rather burdensome and might some dealers to give up the franchise.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    12 There is s Lincoln/Jaguar/Land Rover dealer near me. Will Ford need to negotiate with Tata about the decor of the facilities?

  14. XA351GT Says:

    So I’m reading this GM lawsuit as we’re pissed off at the UAW and having buyer’s remorse so we’re going to take it out on you(FCA). With all this corruption they should just null and void everything with the UAW and throw them out of their businesses. They(the UAW) have outgrown their usefulness. Reminds me of the scene in Orwell’s animated Animal Farm where the animals looks through the windows at the pigs running the farm and see the humans that the ousted before. Meet the old boss , same as the new boss.

  15. Drew Says:

    10 – Kit, you bring up a good point about the production launch timing criterium for NAxOTY. I thought the vehicle needs to have commercial deliveries before January (but I could be wrong). If so, does the UAW-strike-delayed Corvette really qualify… or… have the judges tipped their hat that they are so smitten that rules-be-damned?

  16. XA351GT Says:

    @12 I remember that as well. To ask the dealers to keep revamping the showroom when they move so little product is ridiculous. Give them the product that people will want to buy and then think about redoing showrooms.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 From the NACTOY web site:

    “To be eligible, vehicles must be all-new or substantially new and must be available at dealerships before the end of the year.”

    Yeah, I guess since the list of nominees was made up before the Corvette was delayed by the strike, it’s still in for this 2020. I was a little surprised the Ranger was on the list. I thought it was probably last year.

    Here’s information about the eligible vehicles, an August posting by NACTOY.

  18. Lambo2015 Says:

    12 & 16 Yeah I remember that and it really ws not that long ago. I found this article and believe the Lincoln dealerships were part of the Ford push in 2013.

    So a whopping 6 years ago they were asking for this and probably only 5 or less years ago it may have been completed. I know Lincoln was pushing this new “Lincoln Experience” initiative which they wanted to make the dealerships seem more like an Apple store to me. Including coffee and snacks and concierge service when dropping off a vehicle for service. Free loaners and other perks to try and making the Lincoln dealership experience seem a cut above others like Lexus. Not sure that it worked as I have not visited a Lincoln dealership but if I renovated 5 years ago it would be hard to justify another remodel.

  19. ChuckGrenci Says:

    On the Corvette: even though customer C8′s won’t be available till probably late February early March, there are some C8′s being produced this year with valid new car vins. Perhaps this is the caveat to allow the C8 a nomination. This is speculation on my part.

    Now on the new Maybach, my first impression was that it was a Lincoln (before I saw the tri-star).

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The Maybach will cost about $200K. That Porsche Cayenne, for only $100K isn’t such a bad deal after all. The Benz will have a nicer interior, though.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    As for this Car of the Year annual charade, the Corvette is the only worthy vehicle among the 9, and if you judge on ‘value’, the Kia-Hyundai SUVs should take that prize, as they significantly undercut even Chevy and Ford ands FCA 3 row suvs with similar options. C&D preferred the Kia. No need to have both mediocrities in the list, they are essentially twins.

    If the Maybach GLS is the same size as the non-Maybach, actually it is not as big as a 3 row SUV should be, the redesign of the GL made is much smaller inside, as I found out (colleague got one used for about $30k CPO)

    BUT in the BEV field, the Merc GLC undercuts the E tron by about $7k! And possibly the Jag I-pace. So the free ride for those two clowns is probably coming to an end.

    I am also very skeptical about the demand for BEV pickups. It will depend on the price, of course.

    As for Ford, they will never tell you how many orders they got for their fake Mustang that looks like the Tesla Y, because they will never even get close to the 450,000 orders the Tesla Model 3 got.

  22. Larry D. Says:

    14 It’s simple for the GM Shysters, the UAW does not have $15 bill in cash, and FCA does.

  23. Kit Gerhart Says:

    21 The Ford will probably get the “utility of the year” award, because the H/K vote will be split between the other two. The jury’s being able to apportion multiple votes could change that, though.

    The GLS Maybach is two row, to add luxury relative to the marginally three row regular one. This whole phenomenon, to me, is crazy. I’m getting old, but I don’t think a lifted wagon will ever look “elegant” to me, and most of these things never carry anything, and they certainly never go off road.

  24. Bob Wilson Says:

    Just saw the Tesla Cybertruck reveal. Looks a lot like a ‘stealth’ version of a DeLorian. Window glass could be a little stronger.

    Bob Wilson

  25. Lambo2015 Says:

    21 Yes, The Ford Mach-E that will compete with the Tesla model Y wont get close the orders of the Tesla model 3, Just as Tesla model Y wont get close to the pre-orders of the model 3.

  26. Kit Gerhart Says:

    24 I missed the reveal, but heard about it, and that the windows didn’t do as well in the “demonstration” as they’d hoped. It doesn’t look like something to compete with the F-150. Do they intend to actually build something like that?

  27. cwolf Says:

    24,26) It is simply HIDEOUS!

    The joint Musk had to have smoked must have been a blend of Loco Weed.

  28. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Hideous is too kind; that pretty much sums it up. That can’t possibly be the pickup truck. DOA (at least what was revealed)

  29. Kit Gerhart Says:

    27,28 Maybe it’a a late April Fools joke.

  30. Brett Cammack Says:

    Cybertruck appears as if it were styled by an eight-year-old.

  31. Lambo2015 Says:

    The Cybertruck looks like something from the 80s when the sharp lines of the Lamborghini Countach was popular. Maybe they hired the designer of the Citroen Karin.

    Guess the Ford Mach-E will have no problem outselling this Tesla.

  32. Larry D. Says:

    31 it is a little delorean, even a little 80s countach (without the details), but with 6 seats and a bed. My initial “what the hell is that” reaction, after I saw all 5 photos, is more subdued now. It will have plenty of buyers at 40k, and it sure is not “ugly” in the Aztek sense, no matter how the many geezers here are allergic to it. (of course, I could have predicted cwolf’s reaction to anything Tesla and especially to this unconventional pickyp).

    I think a 2.0 version will look much improved without breaking the bank, and many will buy it at $40k, just not 80 year old drivers of beaten-up Ford 150s (or even Lincoln breadvans) who hate Musk.