AD #2805 – FCA Cuts Employee Pay; GM Tells Suppliers to Delay Refreshes; Hyundai Accent Impressions

March 31st, 2020 at 11:45am

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Runtime: 9:42

0:07 FCA Cuts Employee Pay
0:44 Paris Auto Show Mostly Cancelled
1:04 Toyota Provides Shuttles in Thailand
1:29 JLR Deploys Vehicles for Emergency Response
1:51 Ford Keeps Mach-E Program Moving
2:44 Ford Not Sure When it Will Re-Open N.A. Plants
2:56 Ford Charges Ahead with Ventilator Production
3:29 GM Tells Suppliers to Delay Refreshes
4:31 Magna Explains Its Advanced Lighting Technology
7:29 BYD Developing New Battery
8:20 Hyundai Accent Impressions

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38 Comments to “AD #2805 – FCA Cuts Employee Pay; GM Tells Suppliers to Delay Refreshes; Hyundai Accent Impressions”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It would seem that GM should go ahead with the pickups, if the improvements of the interiors are part of the refresh. Maybe that is already done, though.

    John, do you have any feel about how much it costs to build “quietness” into a car. The main reason I might consider a more expensive sedan than my Camry, would be for lower cabin noise. Do car companies deliberately make lower priced, and mainstream cars noisier than they need to be, to help sell Lexuses, Lincolns, and Cadillacs for big price premiums over Toyotas, Fords, and Chevys?

  2. Brett Cammack Says:

    1
    Heavier glass and more sound-deadening material seemingly. The difference between the 2006 Outlander and the 2016 is remarkable. It’s sooo much quieter in the ’16.

    I’ve actually been meaning since we bought the ’06 to take out the seats and carpet then put down some ersatz DynaMat on the cabin floor. (butyl gutter repair tape is indistinguishable from DynaMat and much cheaper)

  3. Lambo2015 Says:

    Its hard to believe that extra insulation, engine covers and all the various tools used to make a car quieter can equate to an extra 20K.
    Give me 20k John and I will make that Hyundai quieter than a MB. A custom exhaust with wrap and a whole lot of Dynamat. That should do it. Some luxury vehicles use thicker glass so that would hard to get.

    So does Ford and GM get to put their name on the ventilators they build? I’m not sure if the uneasy feeling I would get would be knowing Ford made my ventilator or knowing it was made in such a rush. Hopefully they do a great job.

    Very cool battery BYD and sounds promising.

  4. Lambo2015 Says:

    2 Good to know about the gutter repair. Thanks

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I guess I’m not familiar with DynaMat, or gutter repair tape. While my Camry is reasonably quiet, much quieter than my Corvette, quieter would be nice. Maybe DynaMat or gutter tape in the wheel well areas could reduce road noise.

  6. Clarence Zahrobsky Says:

    Two things headlamps are too expensive now to replace and a good sound system should cover any background noise. people replacing fogged headlamps are finding out it can cost them over a $1000 and who rides around without the sound system off as it comes on when you start the vehicle..

  7. cwolf Says:

    I used a type of DynaMat with an added heat shield foil on my MGC. Placed under the carpet and fire wall, it made a world of difference. Because of the 6 cyl. , the inside , specifically the floor, would get uncomfortably hot in the Summer. Feels much cooler and quieter now.
    It is a bit pricey but worth the cost and effort.

  8. bradley cross Says:

    Recall Buick’s focus on quiet interiors. Not sure it helped them in the US.

    I recall an Asian company made one too quiet and drivers were not paying attention, so they added noise back?

    And yes most folks like quiet interiors; see how folks reacted when EV makers were forced to introduce low-speed sounds for blind folks.

    Medical devices normal have heavy validation requirements from the authorities. As a result the companies are very reluctant to change the software running the machines as it requires re-validation. Hence the auto companies will partner with an existing medical company. Though any change regulations might be skipped at the moment :)

    Sad to see Auto shows go away as I want to see the electric/hybrid Corvette C8 specs!

  9. cwolf Says:

    Cole Cunningham needs his head examined. He may be in the head light business but he surely isn’t the “brightest bulb!”
    His reply to don’t look at the bright lights until it passes is crazy. I would like to strap that guy to a chair and make him look into a strobe using his LEDs for 20 minutes.
    Then have him back on the show and see if he feels the same way. Geesh!!!!

  10. XA351GT Says:

    How are these paycuts going to hold up when the Big 3 all just signed new contracts with the UAW? I see a major lawsuit in the future if not contracts are worthless pieces of paper. If they said we need you to make short term concessions and once everything is back to normal ( if ever) you will get all that money back I don’t see how a worker could trust the company or the union.

  11. Drew Says:

    @10 – The pay cuts apply to salary workers, not UAW.

  12. merv Says:

    if you find your car interior a little noisy,crank up the music : )

  13. buildmore2doors Says:

    John, I can’t wait to see what Larry D. looks like when you have him on your Autoline After Hours show as the “analyst who is very pro Tesla”, should be an interesting experience for all of us. :)

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    12 Most of the time, I like car interiors quiet, so I can hear the music without playing it very loud. That’s good both for a more relaxed experience when driving, and for preservation of one’s hearing. Sometimes, when driving the Corvette, I don’t mind a little noise, but the standard exhaust is loud enough for me. You hear it when you “get on it,” but you don’t hear it much over the other noise at steady speed.

    The best headlights are Hella 7 inch round H4 lights, with glass lenses. Unfortunately, the newest cars that will fit them are about 40 years old.

  15. cwolf Says:

    13) build ore
    Not good. John could be sued for endangerment.
    Once people see his face, everyone and their mothers will try to run him over as he walks to work.
    Then again…….. hmmmmm.

  16. Bob Wilson Says:

    A TSLA stock owner, I’ve never used any stock ‘analyst’, much less one who remains anonymous (the Internet version of a telemarketer.) I invest in: (1) companies that hire me, and (2) companies whose products and never lost money.

    I nominate Cathie Wood of ARK Investment as she speaks clearly and has a technical approach that matches my engineering approach. There are others but Cathie speaks ‘engineering.’

    Last year, I bough shares of TSLA in the $220-320 range. When the stock hit $420, I sold some to stick it to the SEC. As the price continued to go up, I sold small lots and paid off my Standard Range Plus Model 3 which is free and clear with just liability insurance.

  17. Bob Wilson Says:

    Sorry, “(2) companies whose products I’ve bought . . .”

  18. Bobby Roach Says:

    John, The Magna people are doing some interesting work with the lighting. But it would be nice if they could come up with a system to get the behemoth suvs and P/Us to lower their beam when they are tailgating you. Since the are so high, they can blind you as their lights hit your mirrors inside or outside! Or can designer just put the lights lower? Thanks and stay safe Bob

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 According to this, “Montana Skeptic’s” real name is Larry Fossi.

    https://electrek.co/2018/07/24/tesla-troll-short-doxxed-oil-industry-musk-calls-boss/

  20. Larry D. Says:

    18 Good job outing the ‘perp’. If he is still heavily invested in the oil industry, his financial hard times will be even harder than shorting Tesla.

  21. Larry D. Says:

    16 I looked up Kathy and she is a serious person, summa cum laude from her alma mater etc, BUT she must be the bulliest Tesla Bull out there. I know no other who predicts $7,000 and $10,000 a share for TSLA. Do you?

  22. Larry D. Says:

    13 The clown on AAH is NOT me. In fact, if you have been paying attention here, he must be the exact OPPOSITE of me and what I believe. His real name is Larry FOSSI, not D.

    And this Larry F. guy must be having a very hard time right now, and for the foreseeable future, if it is true he is heavily invested in the OIL industry, let alone recklessly shorting TESLA before.

  23. Larry D. Says:

    13 Enjoy the AAH. I bet the program, with Larry F in the panel, will be of as high a quality as the ones featuring ELIO motors and the ACHATES snake oil salesmen, who (surprise!) fooled the Feds or CA into even sponsoring their nonsense.

  24. Larry D. Says:

    From Kit’s very informative link:

    “One of Tesla’s biggest anonymous trolls/shorts has been doxxed as an investment manager heavily invested in the oil industry.

    He has now deleted his Twitter account, which he used to promote his blog posts about Tesla and attack anyone saying anything that could be perceived as positive on Tesla, after Tesla CEO Elon Musk reportedly called his boss to complain about his behavior.

    We are talking about ‘Montana Skeptic’ who has been using Seeking Alpha, a financial blog aggregator, and Twitter to push the bear case on Tesla for the past 3 years.

    Hiding behind his anonymous persona on social media, Montana Skeptic went beyond just pushing the bear case.

    He also used the platforms to send insults and attacks to Tesla bulls, bloggers, YouTubers, and reporters discussing anything that he saw as potentially being positive for Tesla, including myself on numerous occasions to the point where I had to block him.

    To his credit, he disclosed that he was holding a short position on Tesla and therefore, he benefits from the company’s stock price going down.”

    I called this guy “the perp” before I saw the above. Bull’s eye!!!!

  25. XA351GT Says:

    @ #11 Drew , That’s not how I took the article in the report a couple days back that said GM is cutting 6500 and cutting everyone’s pay 20% and the top execs will take a even higher cut. So Maybe I read that wrong , but the term EVERYONE seems pretty inclusive that it applies to ALL employees. Maybe someone at Autoline can clarify exactly who this does and doesn’t cover.

  26. Larry D. Says:

    1 The Camry is noisy? I never heard of that one before. The Corolla, maybe. Also a former Accord model I really liked was criticized as noisy but I doubt I would care.

    The 2003 Camry I rented in Denver was almost 100% noiseless, you would do 100 MPH without really be aware of it because of its quietness and smoothness. It was the exact opposite (and far superior) than the god-awful Focus I had to rent just the previous day in another city, both low-mile Hertz models.

  27. Larry D. Says:

    23 Seems your guest, John, is severely ethically (and possibly legally) challenged. And I don’t mind if you go ahead and again mis-characterize my post as “howling”, as you did the posts of those who appreciate Tesla’s achievements yesterday.

  28. Larry D. Says:

    Re the Hyundai Accent.

    I have rented the larger (but still tiny and tinny) Elantra for a week and it was really a poor vehicle.

    The question you should ask, John, is not to compare it to a car twice its price, for most Accent buyers will NOT have $40k to spend on their next vehicle.

    The question is, what other car could you buy for the same ‘so low’ $20,000?

    And you can buy the BEST CARS IN THE WORLD with LESS than $20k, if the buyer only did not require that their next car has that “new car smell”, which I guess any perfume maker can concoct and sell you for $5.

    I am really tempted to give you a list of 100 cars, far superior to ANY Hyundai, you can buy for $20,000 and enjoy trouble-free for 10 years.

    Interested????

  29. Larry D. Says:

    If you live close to this gas station,

    Shell
    11558 N 1900 Rd & I-40
    Sayre, OK

    You will pay $1.09 per gallon unleaded now

    AND even less later.

    sub-dollar gas is around the corner.

  30. Larry D. Says:

    28 a few weeks ago diesel as as cheap as gas in this area. But in the OK station above, Diesel is TWICE as expensive as gas now, under the CV, where professional trucks do just as many miles, but cars do half the miles they used to do.

    REFINERIES, if they have not already done so, should have more of their capacity turned to making diesel fuel and less making gasoline. This should support gas prices and lower diesel ones.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 The Camry is not noisy, but quieter would be nice. Yeah, it’s certainly quieter than a Focus or Corolla, but not as quiet as a similar Lexus ES, or an E-Class.

  32. Kit Gerhart Says:

    28 It looks like Florida still has expensive gas, not that it matters much to most people. Diesel is still ~30% more than regular, $2.60 vs $1.96 at the cheapest “name brand” stations.

  33. Lambo2015 Says:

    28 yea interesting to see how low will gas prices go. I wonder how much is due to Russia and how much is due to everything being shutdown.

  34. Kit Gerhart Says:

    33 It can’t go too much lower, even if the crude is free, with the cost of refining to make gas, and the tax.

    Apparently the refineries don’t have the capacity to make more diesel, unless they are just “sticking it to” the commercial truck operators.

  35. cwolf Says:

    One of my profs worked for a refinery. As I recall, oil is made up of hydrocarbons. When heated to their boiling point(s), jet fuel, gasoline and diesel is had from the various levels when condensed. So I don’t think only diesel can be made in the refining process. Some of the larger molecules can be reprocessed to make a lower grade gas, so maybe this would apply to diesel as well, but a mix of products still exists.

  36. Kit Gerhart Says:

    35 In the “old days,” oil refining consisted only of fractional distillation to get products from propane and butane, to asphalt, and things in between like kerosene and gasoline. For years, the demand for gasoline far outstripped the amount you’d get from the basic distillation process, and catalytic cracking was developed to produce more gasoline. I don’t know if there’d be an easy way to get more diesel/kerosene/jet fuel type stuff. You think there would be plenty of diesel fuel now, since it is about the same as jet fuel, and most of the airplanes are on the ground.

  37. Brett Cammack Says:

    32
    Regular is $1.69 at a station about a mile from Rancho Cammack. Most others are about 20 cents higher than that.

  38. Bruce Says:

    Have you ever approached auto insurance companies such as Liberty Mutual to see if they would sponsor Autoline?