AD #2882 – Jeep Gladiator Impressions; Q2 Production Capacity Plunges; Ford Tests Dog-Like Robots to Scan Plants

July 27th, 2020 at 11:46am

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Runtime: 9:47

0:07 Alcohol Detection Systems Can Save Thousands of Lives
1:14 Audi Developing Bidirectional Charging Technology
2:03 Production Capacity Plunges in Q2
3:30 Ford Tests Dog-Like Robots to Scan Plants
4:42 Rivian To Start Delivering Vehicles Next Year
5:04 Hyundai Develops New Air Conditioning Technology
6:34 Jeep Gladiator Mojave Impressions

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39 Comments to “AD #2882 – Jeep Gladiator Impressions; Q2 Production Capacity Plunges; Ford Tests Dog-Like Robots to Scan Plants”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I knew Gladiators could get pricey, but $61K. Yikes. It looks like you can get big money for a crude vehicle like that, when there is no competition.

  2. Lambo2015 Says:

    I was told DUIs were on the decline due to ride sharing apps like Uber. Even still 12 years to be affective. Wont we all have autonomous cars by then?

  3. Sean McElroy Says:

    @Lambo – That 12 years is based on the average age of vehicles involved in crashes.

  4. Drew Says:

    Sean, we’d love to learn more about those alcohol detection systems. Are they passive or active? Will they ignore alcohol-based mouthwashes?

    I know New Mexico has been studying such devices for over a decade. Challenges included the ability to ignore alcohol-based mouthwashes and concern about annoying innocent drivers with gauntlet-like active systems.

    Many of the worst drunk driver accidents are the result of repeat offenders and extreme intoxication. I am curious if the technology targets the entire population or just a select/extreme high risk population..

  5. clem zahrobsky Says:

    My C-6 Corvette had the A/C fan run after the car was shut off to remove the moisture from the system

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    With these alcohol detection systems, will people get arrested for sitting or sleeping in their cars, as sometimes now happens when people are in vehicles not driving, but suspected of being inebriated?

  7. ChuckGrenci Says:

    While twelve years sounds like a long time, the longer this is delayed from being mandated, the longer that (12) year clocks even begins as a countdown. But saying that, I also see the implementation fraught with problems and also wondering how much this is going to cost per each vehicle. And also wondering how this system will be defeated by drunks (as they are a resourceful bunch) after all.

    If you need or want a Jeep (Gladiator), go ahead and get one if that is so your desire, but for many more who do drive them, it’s the wrong vehicle. (I’m pretty sure that what was John was saying in his review).

  8. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Wrangler and Gladiator both score 4 of 5 with CR’s “owner satisfaction” survey. At one time, I think Wrangler was one of the highest ranking vehicles in that survey question, so it seems that more people are buying them, not knowing that they are buying a noisy, crude vehicle, which is not too great for some things, like highway driving.

  9. Bob Wilson Says:

    The “Bell the Hybrid” act, S.841, was passed in 2009 to impose sound generators on hybrids and EVs (aka. the Prius) for the blind. There had been no fatal blind-Prius accidents. It wasn’t until this year that we’re hearing these silly sounds in traffic, 11 years later.

    Cabin alcohol detection could save thousands. If the alternative is self-driving cars, it would solve two problems at once.

  10. Lambo2015 Says:

    For all those ride sharing services where you are driving the car. I could see this alcohol detection system being very useful. Keep intoxicated people from driving the shared vehicles. For my own personal vehicle I wouldn’t not want it or to pay for such a feature.

  11. Lambo2015 Says:

    Gladiator; Sounds like Jeep delivered on exactly what everyone expected the Gladiator to be. Another derivative of the Wrangler line with similar off-road capabilities and a bed. Didn’t really expect anything different other than a slightly better ride due to the longer wheelbase. From Johns report sounds like that is the results.

  12. Drew Says:

    Preventing drunks from driving is desirable… yes…..and sounds simple enough… not quite. There will be people who will argue alcohol detection systems are a violation of their liberty/rights. The counter argument will include statements that driving is a privilege, not a right, and that laws already exist to mandate seat belt and helmet usage (I know, not in all states). But failure to not use the safety belt or helmet results in a misdemeanor. DUIs can result in a felony. Hmmmmm. I’m not a lawyer. A lawyer’s perspective will be interesting.

    Whatever technology is pursued, I hope it is effective and does not irritate the tens of millions of responsible drivers. Ideally, the cost and any potential inconvenience of the technology is focused narrowly on the target population of “offenders”.

  13. Dale Leonard Says:

    I just hope that Ford has the new Bronco 100% perfect as if it is not what the public is expecting. Jeep will eat the Bronco for lunch !!!

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9. My 2012 Prius had reverse beeping, inside the passenger cabin. I never figured the reason for that. There was no way to shut it off with regular controls in the car, but the dealer could disable it, which they did for free.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    11. The first concept vehicles for what would become Gladiator were two door, which looked much better to me than the production one. Since they are making only one version, though, they certainly made the right choice to make if 4 door, given that most Wrangler sales are now the 4 door.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    In addition to drunk driver detection, cars should have cell phone jammers as standard equipment.

  17. XA351GT Says:

    I’m surprised that Ford is using a robot dog to scan and not drone which could scan at a much faster rate and the tech is already available to do so.

  18. Larry D. Says:

    ANY rational person who wants the auto industry to be healthy so it can CONTINUE offering the GOOD models, would applaud Merc’s, even as late as now and only after the 1-2 punch from BOTH Tesla AND CV.

    Then again there will be always the selfish, mindless professional mourners who prefer to see the indistry awash in RED INK and offering 1,000 lousy models instead of 300 GOOD ones.

  19. Larry D. Says:

    1 Actually I already knew they went for over $60 (62k) from YOUR posts in the past. As for having no competition, maybe it is because this is a niche of a niche segment that has a high risk of having poor sales after the initial period of fools getting excited about any new product.

  20. Lambo2015 Says:

    16 With Android auto and Carplay jamming isn’t necessary as it requires any calls or texting to be done via voice commands/hand free. Plus jamming could be a safety risk and its tough to jam just the driver and not the passengers or cars next to you.

  21. Brett Cammack Says:

    re: Gladiator

    I’d rather spend 1/3 to 1/4 of that for a clean, decent Jeep CJ8 Scrambler.

  22. TERRY Says:

    Is the alcohol sensing idea also going to detect cannabis? As I understand it, the early states allowing recreational cannabis have high rates of driving under the influence of cannabis.

  23. kurt wiley Says:

    Amazing. Seems like nothing will keep Americans from buying/owning Lifted Trucks, be they Gladiators or whatever!

  24. Lambo2015 Says:

    22 Yea but those drivers were pulled over for going 25 in a 45.. lol

  25. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16,20 I wasn’t serious about the jamming. It would interfere with navigation using google maps.


    The article about the alcohol interlock links to a company making a passive system which measures the alcohol content in the air. Lets set aside the ease at which that could be defeated for the moment. Lets look at who shares responsibility when this system fails to detect a drunk driver.

    Are the OEMs liable at least partially? I bet there are thousands of lawyers that would say yes. Who is also responsible when the system fails and you can’t get someone to the help they need in an emergency causing less than ideal outcomes because the car wouldn’t start? I am sure there are thousands of lawyers that will say the OEM is 100% liable for that scenario because they made a system which was not robust.

    If the OEM makes the system “fail to open” meaning that it will not interlock if it detects a system fault….Then that will simply be exploited by the drunk driver by pulling a fuse and not bothering about the light on the IP. This system really will not do anything in the end but it will make 1 company rich and the rest of us get an expensive placebo.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18. The problem with MBUSA, is that they sell crappy cars, like the CLA and A-Class sedan in the US, but refuse to sell excellent cars, like C-Class wagons, and normally equipped E-Class wagons. Meanwhile, they spend a lot of money tooling lifted 4wd hatchbacks like GLC and GLE “coupe” that don’t sell very well anywhere.

    That article didn’t say which models they would be dropping, but they have a lot of choices to come up with 7. Go here, and select year 2020, select make Mercedes-Benz, and select model to see a very long list.

  28. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19. It’s a lot bigger niche of a niche than, say, lifted 4wd hatchbacks, like M-B and BMW have become fond of with their CUV “coupes.”

  29. cozy cole Says:

    Drunk driving, simple solution, Federal law overriding all state BS. You drive drunk and kill somebody, you go to Jail for LIFE. Period. no trial no BS

  30. cozy cole Says:

    back to drunk driving, the professional drunks where I worked all drove beaters with dents all over them. Leaving bars at 2-3am, you can bump into lots of stuff. They are not going to buy a new car. In Pa. if you come out of a bar and decide you better not drive and crawl in you back seat to sleep it off, If a cop finds you, that is drunk driving!

  31. merv Says:

    28 4 door coupes,I don’t buy into that thinking,a coupe should have 2

  32. Bob Wilson Says:

    Sorry about the low factory utilization but they did give to Tesla, “$428 million, coming from sales of regulatory credits.” (see web link)

    Instead of designing and making desirable EVs, they used “PowerPoint” engineering and designed compliance cars that no one wants to buy. They simply made a market place for Tesla performance EVs … willingly.

  33. Al Says:

    #30. I know that happens in PA – sleeping it off and you’re considered drunk driving. I could never understand the logic behind this. If you’re smart enough not to drive and decide to sleep it off – hooray for you. Don’t penalize them.

  34. Kit Gerhart Says:

    30. ” In Pa. if you come out of a bar and decide you better not drive and crawl in you back seat to sleep it off, If a cop finds you, that is drunk driving!”

    They do that in other states too. Why the (blank) do they do that? They are actively encouraging people to drive drunk.

  35. Lambo2015 Says:

    29 As with most people, I’m all for taking drunk people off the road. Not to the point I’m willing to give up due process and forgo a ones right to a trial. That’s dangerous thinking.

    30,34 Yeah I don’t understand that either other than the cops thinking is most likely that if your that drunk when you do wake up and decide to drive home you’ll probably still be too drunk to drive.

    26 As you mention I would be concerned as a manufacturer the liability they are assuming by offering this “protection”. Most states have a legal limit so you are allowed to have a drink and still drive. Does this system know if your within the legal limit or is it just zero? If it is zero I can see the system getting disabled by many users or people just avoiding buying a vehicle with such a device. They already have these added to peoples cars that need them by court order from a conviction. I think that’s sufficient.

  36. ChuckGrenci Says:

    That DUI should probably be a misdemeanor public drunkenness. Seems more fair; still a nuisance but probably a lesser charge (but a more responsible action than driving.)

  37. Kit Gerhart Says:

    There’s probably a lot less drunk driving now than usual, with bars closed a number of places. Now, people are drinking at home, rather than at bars.

    Anyway, I’d think any alcohol detection systems that would be put in all cars would be “passive,” and would be highly inaccurate. Even devices where you blow through a tube, are not particularly accurate, and if those were in all new cars, people would quit buying new cars until the current ones were all worn out.


    37) Certainly the person who kept throwing his bottles of wild turkey out his window on his way home and into my yard every single day for the past 4 years has stopped drinking and driving. Haven’t seen a bottle since the lockdowns. Or, maybe he died since his liver can’t be in any good shape at this point. Either way, no more bottles in my yard so +1 for COVID-19. I wasn’t even mad at him for it. I just thought to myself with every bottle picked up…They still make people like you?

  39. RS Says:

    Can this alcohol detection system allow for a designated driver – the only one in the vehicle who is not drunk?