AD #2965 – Ford Chassis Cab Ranger; Think Tank Predicts $1 A Gallon Gasoline; Human Rights Panel Sides with Ghosn

November 23rd, 2020 at 11:46am

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Runtime: 7:03

0:24 Germany Steps Up to Help Auto Industry
1:04 Mini Countryman Production Moving from UK to Germany
1:36 Think Tank Predicts $1 A Gallon Gasoline
2:49 Hybrids May Lose “Green” Tag in Europe
4:00 Human Rights Panel Sides with Ghosn
5:21 Ford Launches Digital Platform for Used Car Sales
6:03 Ford Introduces Chassis Cab Ranger in Europe

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38 Comments to “AD #2965 – Ford Chassis Cab Ranger; Think Tank Predicts $1 A Gallon Gasoline; Human Rights Panel Sides with Ghosn”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Mini Countryman is now assembled in the Netherlands, not the UK.

  2. XA351GT Says:

    It won’t matter how cheap gas becomes if you can’t own and operate something that runs on it. With Biden’s New Green Deal leanings would kill all new vehicles made that run on it and they’d wind up banning everything that runs on it if people refuse to get on the EV band wagon. Remember the clunker program > If these left wing eco terrorists have their way they confiscate them if you don’t turn them in for a nominal payout. Much like their threats with firearms. Ask California EV owners how much they liked their vehicles when the government shut down the power . This looks to be more about power and control than it does the ecology which the US is the best of the biggest developed nations at protecting. China, India, Russia and much of SE Asia don’t have those protections in place yet the US is singled out.

  3. XA351GT Says:

    If anyone offered a single cab mid-size pick up they’d have my attention. They are going the way of the 2 door coupe. It’s hard to locate even a full -size single cab truck unless you special order it. I guess there is too much money to be made selling these bloated land barges.

  4. Larry D. Says:

    2 During the last few years the US has become, for the first time since the 40s, the world’s biggest BY FAR Oil and gas producer. $1 gasoline will devastate a HUGE US industry employing millions of people. Biden himself is a corrupt, senile moron and could care less about the Green New Deal, BUT he is BEHOLDEN to the extreme leftists and islamofascists in COngress, so I doubt he would do anything to help them, EVEN IF he still had an ounce of brains. Biden has graduared 78th, according to the LIBERAL Sam DOnaldson and his colleagues, out of 85 students, in his second-rate Law School (not HArvard or Yale but… Syracuse). He is the dumbest of the dumb, senile, and an embarassment to the morons that voted for him.

    ANd it gets worse for the huge US oil industry, because they will Not even be able to export US oil and gas to EUrope or China, since they are going BEV whole hog, and the destitutes in India have no $ to buy it either.

  5. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2 The US is the biggest greenhouse gas emitter, per capita. China and India have much dirtier urban air quality, though, but it’s rapidly improving in China.

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    4 Lying, corrupt, hate-filled deranged fool Trump lost. You need to get over it. As far as the “green new deal,” it is obviously not going to happen.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 A basic, regular cab pickup would be the ideal place for a Chinese company to enter the US market. It’s there for the taking.

  8. Kevin A Says:

    1 Before you pop a vein, you should do a reasonableness check. Look up the size of the US car fleet. Divide it by the yearly EV production rate. That tells you how many years it would take to replace all the ICEs. If the number is greater than 4 (and it is, by tons!) then no politician would outlaw ICEs because it would only result in them being voted out of office at the next election. Democrats are not eco-terrorists and Republicans are not all Proud Boys.

  9. Kevin A Says:

    sorry meant that for XA351GT

  10. Kevin A Says:

    Larry, If the US wants to protect American oil industry, all it has to do is ban crude oil imports. US consume 20 million barrels a day but produces only 12 million barrels a day (2019). The ban would piss off Mexico, Canada and Saudi Arabia, but after the last 4 years, they are used to it.

  11. bradley cross Says:

    Ghosn is another millionaire who wanted more money/power and should have seen the tea leaves to retire and avoid all the drama.

    Cheap gas seems obvious with the EV push unless crazy taxes are added. Interesting situation when trying to encourage EVs.

    Presidential IQ is not that important; it all depends on their advisors and the presidents moral/political compass.

  12. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.autonews.com/regulation-safety/gm-no-longer-backs-trump-effort-bar-california-emissions-rules?utm_source=breaking-news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20201123&utm_content=hero-headline

    I cannot read the full articles either, but the title is self-explanatory and along the lines of my earlier post.

  13. Wim van Acker Says:

    @4:
    a “During the last few years the US has become, for the first time since the 40s, the world’s biggest BY FAR Oil and gas producer.” Great investment when demand is not growing, potentially decreasing.” Let’s give them more tax breaks, more cheap credit for more investment in capacity build up, and bail them out every time they tank.

    b “Biden himself is a corrupt, senile moron and could care less about the Green New Deal,” I suggest you tone down your baseless insults to the incoming President. “BUT he is BEHOLDEN to the extreme leftists and islamofascists in COngress,”: interestingly enough Moncef Slaoui, the White House’s top scientific adviser to Operation Warp Speed is a Muslim, and BioNTech fouders and the ones who run the company are Turkish Muslims. Since you are always light on knowledge and facts: BioNTech was the first comapny with a working Covid-19 vaccine, which Pfizer will produce and why we patriots call it the Pfizer vaccine. It is not; it is the BioNTech vaccine, a German company founded and run by two Turkish Muslims. So, let’s celebrate diversity and not bash the Muslims, and let’s not fool ourselves by thinking we can do it all on our own.

    “EVEN IF he still had an ounce of brains.” that makes it an ounce more than you have.
    “He is the dumbest of the dumb, senile, and an embarassment to the morons that voted for him.” Yet, he is mentally stable, unlike you, has been instrumental in rescuing the automotive industry the banking and insurance sectors. Unlike you. Have a nice day ranting and hurling baseless insults at people. Which, as you may have noticed, does not insult anybody here because we consider you hilarious: a pompous airhead without knowledge and understanding. Time to see a shrink, dumbass.

  14. cwolf Says:

    Read “Why The Oil Industry Doesn’t Fear Biden” on NPR. It may answer most concerns.

    ICE’s will be around longer than you! EV costs are one of the resons why they have a miniscule piece of the market. And don’t forget they are subsidized and pay no road use tax,…but they will sooner than later. Then lets do a comparo of the cost benifit of an ICE vs an EV… and exclude any thoughts of $1/gal of gas.

  15. Ed Says:

    1dollar a gallon? Maybe pre tax!!! Current gas prices at the pump are including almost 50% tax. If you cut the fuel usage and therefore the tax, it will have to be made up somewhere… so maybe an electricity tax?? Taxes are never destroyed – just converted elsewhere.

  16. Lambo2015 Says:

    15 Exactly! So everyone that uses electricity in their homes will likely see an increase to offset the lack of gas tax revenue even if you don’t have an EV.
    As other countries continue to offer EV incentives create mandates and ban ICEs they can push pull and drag EVs into the streets but I think the US will be further behind than places like EU. The ICE will be around for a much longer time than it currently appears. The reality check hasn’t happened yet and soon they will realize that if a new vehicle is going to be 50K plus the auto industry is going to see a slump worse than 2008. Cheap gas wont help either.

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    13 Good, informative post.

    15 In Florida, gas tax is about 30% of the pump price of regular, and 23% of the pump price of premium.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 EVs need to be cheaper, but maybe more importantly, there need to be places to charge them for apartment and condo dwellers. Short range, and thus, much less expensive EVs would work as commuter cars for a lot of people, if there was a place to charge them.

  19. Gary Susie Says:

    Larry do you have any friends????

  20. Roger t Says:

    #4 – oh if you say so it must be true.

  21. Wim van Acker Says:

    @19: Psychopaths *) typically have acquaintances rather than friends. The few who are initially attracted bail out once they recognize the symptoms of a psychopath.

    *) Psychopathy, sometimes considered synonymous with sociopathy, is traditionally a personality disorder characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits.

  22. Wim van Acker Says:

    @19: Psychopaths *) typically have acquaintances rather than friends. The few who are initially attracted bail out once they recognize the symptoms of a psychopath.

    *) Psychopathy, sometimes considered synonymous with sociopathy, is traditionally a personality disorder characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits.

  23. cwolf Says:

    22) Are refering to Trump or Larry?

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    23 Both?

  25. Larry S Says:

    I’ve read responses here for quite some time. This is the first time I’ve seen statements from otherwise knowledgeable people devolve into childish rants. Very disappointing

  26. cwolf Says:

    Did you know you can now configure your new Rivian P/U today if you have a spare $70,000++

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    25 I think I’ll pass.

  28. Bobby T Says:

    13, well said Wim! 24, yes, both.

  29. cwolf Says:

    When EV’s and P/U’s costs as much as a median house, there has to be something wrong!

  30. Earl Says:

    If everyone would take 9 minutes of their valuable time and watch on You Tube the last segment of Real Time with Bill Maher they would find enlightenment. The segment is called The Great Disappointment. After we should quit posting political comments on this form.

  31. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-23/musk-overtakes-gates-to-grab-world-s-second-richest-ranking?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews&fbclid=IwAR0LjV4tBjF4HpS0rJZaflEGIfR7fDU6ocPz11B6hZZydZ68rBdwjBn0h4I

    The title is self-explanatory. Is there a doctor in the house to tend to the Musk and Tesla Haters here?

    Now Musk is breathing down copycat Jeff Bezos’ neck for the (in his case, richly deserved) wealthiest person on the planet.

    COmpare the REALITY of today with the ludicrous conspiracy theories about the alleged bankruptcy of….. Tesla (LOL!) the incorrigible loser-haters posted HERE not long ago.

  32. Larry D. Says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E4vpn_6Qw4

    Sandy Munro interviewed about the $25k Tesla, why it has to wait 3 years, and why it is surprisingly based on aspects of the most expensive Tesla (Roadster 2.0 excepted), the Model S.

  33. Kit Gerhart Says:

    30 That is great, and with as excellent suggestion at the end.

  34. Lambo2015 Says:

    31 People calling out the fact that Tesla would make no money at ALL selling EVs without carbon credits is a FACT and not a discredit or hate for Elon. Knowing the value of those credits and having a plan to build EVs with a price off-set by selling those credits is just good business. Elon is a smart man and using the system to his advantage is a smart move knowing other would struggle to build EVS and ICEs at the same time.
    Larry you fail to see that most people here have no problem with Elon or Tesla but we call a duck a duck. You also fail to see that GM has to offset its expensive EVs by using ICE SUVs and that’s not different that Tesla offsetting its EVs with Carbon Credits from other manufacturers ICE SUVs. So what most people here dislike about you and your posts is your constant double standards of praise for Tesla EVs that basically are only saleable with the help of expensive SUVs just like GM and Ford and everyone else.
    Once you realize that they are much more alike than they are different you will soon see that your hate for GM Ford and FCA is going to be hypocritical when your beloved Tesla benefits and sells EVS the exact same way.. Sorry to break the news to ya.

  35. Kit Gerhart Says:

    32 Sandy Munro usually makes sense, but he sounded decidedly silly in saying that you need to go to 3 wheels to make a $25K electric car. Just using a smaller battery, good for ~150 mile range in a Model 3 would drop the cost ~$5K. While range is king, 150 mile range would be more than adequate for the way most EVs are used, commuting, and charging at home. Then, you could eliminate the glass roof, power trunk close, and other gadgetry and lower the cost even more.

    Of course, Tesla has no intent of selling a true “price leader” Model 3, but it should certainly be possible to make a smaller EV, with 4 wheels and decent performance for near $25K, even now, if you go for the range most people actually need for their commuting, and forgo the gadgetry. BMW is almost doing it, with the electric Mini.

    Munro is really obsessed with those bigger cylindrical cells. Are they really that much of a breakthrough? I guess we’ll know in 2-3 years.

  36. MERKUR DRIVER Says:

    32) I must have watched something different because Sandy Munro basically said Tesla is not going to make a $25k car because there is not enough profit in it.

    He went on to say other manufacturers will make a 3 wheeled cycle car, with zero safety features, for under $25k and they may use some tesla parts. Those other manufacturers he just so happens to be partnered with. I am sure it will sell as well as every other 3 wheeled vehicle does in the USA, which is not well at all.

  37. Kit Gerhart Says:

    36 The only 3 wheel vehicles that sell are “fun machines,” like Harley trikes, and the open machines with two front wheels like Can-Am Spyder, and the huge Slingshot from Polaris.

  38. Lambo2015 Says:

    36,37 If Elon would partner with the defunct Elio and convert that car to an EV they could certainly make it for around 25K. The Elio was a fairly attractive car with seating for two and aerodynamic and light enough to target 80 mpg. It would make a very attractive commuter car. If they would forego the gadgetry and sensors keeping it simple as the Elio was I could see it selling.