AD #3070 – Dacia Reveals Low-Cost EV; Ford Considers 2nd MEB Car; Williams & ItalDesign Create Modular EV Platform

April 30th, 2021 at 11:54am

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Runtime: 9:40

0:08 GM Invests $1 Billion To Build EVs In Mexico
1:03 SEC Probes VW’s “Voltswagen” Stunt
1:48 Dacia Introduces Low-Cost EV In France
3:27 Ford Considers 2nd EV Off of VW’s MEB Platform
4:07 Jeep Offers Lift Kit for Wrangler 4xe
4:56 Williams & ItalDesign Create Modular EV Platform
6:22 Saudi Arabia Wants to Create Local EV Brand
7:02 BMW Launches Startup Sustainability Challenge
7:56 Free2move Expands U.S. Subscription Service

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21 Comments to “AD #3070 – Dacia Reveals Low-Cost EV; Ford Considers 2nd MEB Car; Williams & ItalDesign Create Modular EV Platform”

  1. MJB Says:

    Voltswagen stunt: Maybe I’m missing something, but it just seems to me people (or perhaps it’s corporations, regulatory agencies and the SEC) are just too darn thin skinned and easily ticked off. What is there really to “investigate”.

    You know, if say Henry Ford had pulled a similar publicity stunt 100 years ago, something tells me people would have had a laugh and just gone on with their lives. But today companies are getting hauled before review committees for botched April Fools pranks??

    As sleepy Joe would say, C’mon man!

  2. ChuckGrenci Says:

    1, MJB, I was thinking the same. Prank or not; what’s the big deal.

  3. Kevin A Says:

    Does the UAW know that gm is still a multi-national corporation? They already show their patriotism by keeping their HQ in the USA when there are so many less expensive places they could be. If you criticize them enough, maybe they will go that route anyway.

  4. Sean McElroy Says:

    @MJB – My guess would be the SEC is looking into whether or not the company or anyone at the company tried to profit off of it. Its shares did go up a bit after the ‘Voltswagen’ announcement.

  5. wmb Says:

    Williams & ItalDesign modular EV platform may be what Jaguar is looking at or just what they need!

    Sean, my thoughts were some what in line with yours in that, these EV start-ups/OEM’s that are chasing the ‘fastest, most powerful, gull wing door, etc.’, are missing out on those who want basic, reliable transportation that is affordable, but also like the EV promise! All that other adds to the cost and rises the price out of the hands of those who might wish to take to leap, all because the automaker wants some flashy tech.

  6. WineGeek Says:

    Where are the “new age Henry Fords” in the US to produce a Model T BEV? Low cost, simple, and affordable. With new car prices pushing $40,000 average a low cost BEV for the average person could be a real hit. Let’s build it in the good old USA! Maybe a $14,999 entry level and a $19,999 fully equipped with 100 -150 mile battery.

  7. Clem Zahrobsky Says:

    Unless the feds outlaw ICE vehicles BEVs will be a second car in most families for daily use for decades.

  8. XA351GT Says:

    Is that Williams of William F1 fame?

  9. XA351GT Says:

    kevin at #3. If anything chases big corps out of US it won’t be from the UAW’s doing it will be the huge tax increases they are going to face under the current dictatorship in DC.

  10. Lambo2015 Says:

    Free Million dollar idea:
    Any one of these EV start up are really missing out. Designing an EV motor that could be coupled to a FWD and one for RWD ICE platform with small modular battery packs that can be plugged to each other so they are expandable and flexible to fit within a variety of spaces, would make a great aftermarket conversion. If somewhat affordable and flexible enough to be retrofitted into almost any old ICE. DIY or have a shop do the swap and tear out the old tank engine and trans for a new EV powertrain. Place the batteries where they fit best and this could be huge.

  11. Ukendoit Says:

    If VW faces too much flack about the joke, they could always slap a few Voltswagen badges on some ID4s and the falsehood goes away. It would no longer be a joke or a liability, just a limited run novelty that could even up their credibility. I would play it up and put signs up in the dealerships, too. It would be in line with their quirky sense of humor that they had back in the 70′s, and may even help sell ID4s.

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 That could work, if you don’t want too much range. Existing platforms don’t have that much space for packaging batteries, which is why the e-Golf that was sold for a while has only ~125 mile range. Existing vans, though, like my antique Caravan should have room for lots of batteries, but you’d need to stiffen up the suspension to handle the extra 1200 pounds.

    In a few years, your retrofit idea, will probably appear in “show cars” that don’t need much range. In 20 years, probably most of the ’32 Fords at shows will have electric motors, rather than Chevy V-8s.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    9 I doubt if Amazon will leave the US, even if some loopholes are plugged, and they have to pay taxes.

  14. ChuckGrenci Says:

    Well, if Amazon (and all the others) get taxed at a heftier rate, well guess who really gets to pay; yep, all us regular guys (prices will go up) and the little guy will be burdened disproportionately again.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 Amazon hasn’t been paying corporate taxes at all some years, because of loopholes. If that is changed, it might hurt Jeff Bezos’s wealth a little, but I doubt that it would affect prices much. They do have some competition, and would need to remain competitive.

  16. cwolf Says:

    Corporate taxes were higher years ago, so what’s the big deal for them to pay a reasonable amount?
    The only thing lowing taxes during the last adminisrtation accomplished was to make the top tier even wealthier. It did little to better the average worker. In fact, they were forced to work more hours due to the dismantling of labor laws.
    So far the economy is doing very well, inflation is well managed and the market is quit stable.
    Give credit where credit is due and some of you might find a little contentment for a change.

  17. MJB Says:

    #4. Thanks, Sean. I guess that may be reason enough to investigate, but sheesh, would they also have investigated if the stunt had the reverse effect and cause stock values to plummet?

    I still think it’s a bit of an overreaction action for the SEC – that is, unless they were tipped off by an insider.

  18. Ed Says:

    #16 I remember Jimmy Carter , 1978 , 18% interest on home loans and super inflation. Biden / Harris are making it all come back. Wonder if they will revive Disco as well? Hmmm the way it plays out am looking forward to the savior Reagan to come after and fix it all.

  19. Ed Says:

    #16 I remember Jimmy Carter , 1978 , 18% interest on home loans and super inflation. Biden / Harris are making it all come back. Wonder if they will revive Disco as well? Hmmm the way it plays out am looking forward to the savior Reagan to come after and fix it all.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18,19

    1978 to ~1986 was great for my parents, financially, and ultimately for me. My parents inherited a little money in 1977, had no debt, and could get double digit interest with no risk. The CD returns were much higher than inflation, as it pertained to them, having no debt. Now, the only thing you can do with money and even keep up with the modest inflation involves risk, putting it in the stock market or stock-based funds.

    If it “comes back” as you predict, I guess the important thing for me will be knowing when to sell all of my mutual and index funds, and buy CDs.

  21. Daniel Busch Says:

    I understand Dacia’s simple and less expensive approach to EV’s. it seems to me that range is the most important feature for EVs. I never understood the concentration on acceleration, particularly in regard to vehicles which are destined to be self driving. Don’t get me wrong I have several vintage and modern cars that break 0-60mph in under 4 seconds, but they are not driven when I am trying to get to work or the hardware store. They offer no nanny controls…I’m on my own.