AD #3447 – Audi Wants Your Cell Phone Batteries; Huawei EV Peels Open Like a Can of Sardines; Mercedes Smashes Nurburgring Record

November 11th, 2022 at 11:51am

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Runtime: 9:45

0:08 China Car Exports Booming
0:52 Geely Is Building an ICE Empire
2:02 Euro 7 Tightens Up Emissions Regulations
3:37 GM Super Cruise Doubles Its Mileage 
4:14 Mercedes Supercar Smashes Nurburgring Track Record
5:07 Volvo Targets 70% Sales Growth 
6:24 Audi Wants Your Cell Phone Batteries
7:06 Huawei EV Peels Open Like a Can of Sardines
8:04 VTOLs To Fly At 2024 Paris Olympics

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18 Comments to “AD #3447 – Audi Wants Your Cell Phone Batteries; Huawei EV Peels Open Like a Can of Sardines; Mercedes Smashes Nurburgring Record”

  1. Buzzerd Says:

    Nice to see the increase in roads for supercruise, almost makes it worth while.

  2. Roger T Says:

    With that profitability range, Volvo needs to pay Sandy Munro a visit :)

  3. John McElroy Says:

    #2. You’re right. GM’s 10% EBIT is better than Volvo’s 8-10%, and GM has to include all those Wuling Mini EVs with paper thin margins.

  4. Lew Says:

    Here in NJ Plastic bag recycling Bins are gone from stores since the new ban on stores suppling then at check out. Home depot and Lowes removed the Battery recycling bins at the same time.
    I never Woke since I never slept. Trying to help recycle with paper, cans, bottles etc. but it gets more difficult every day. Don’t know where the nearest AUDI dealer is located. Went down the rabbit hole trying to find Redwood recycling near me. Woe is me.

  5. Wim van Acker Says:

    First of all: Thanks, Autoline TV for the outstanding coverage of cutting-edge topics this week. I enjoy every show. Top-notch!

    @1 I test-drove Supercruise a few years back on a Cadillac CT6 (I believe, if not CT6 then it was a CT5) (so the current system is probably much better than I drove) and was very impressed by it. We drove it on a curvy freeway in West Virgina with a lot of traffic, and it was flawless.

    @Yesterday’s episode (I could only watch it this morning). RIVIAN: I test drove it for 90 minutes a few months ago. I am not capable of coming up with arguments why anybody should buy the RIVIAN pick-up truck. It is much more expensive than a Ford F150 Lightning and not better and has no dealership network to support maintenance and repair. I drove the Ford F150 Lightning and could come up with many arguments why somebody should buy that vehicle. That is an amazing product.

  6. GM Veteran Says:

    2,3 – Perhaps Volvo is being conservative, and including the cost of carrying inventory that will go along with all those new online sales. That is something GM and other OEMs with dealer networks do not have to worry about.

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    5 I haven’t even seen a Rivian or Lightning yet.

  8. Wim van Acker Says:

    @7 we occasionally see a RIVIAN in the Detroit Metro Area.

    I drove the Lightning at a conference recently. I would not know how to discern it from an ICE F150. The Lightning is a very impressive product with a great price point IMHO.

  9. Kit Gerhart Says:

    8 I might have seen Lightnings without knowing, unless I saw the front from fairly close.

  10. wmb Says:

    Something I meant to mention on the story of the new Volvo EX90. While the the EX has a frunk, like Rivian, Volvo missed the opportunity to keep the lift over height lower, as the Model X, Lightning and Silverado and a few otherBEVs.

    Huawei peeling open so easily show yet again, how difficult it is to build a save vehicle, let alone a “good” vehicle that stands out from the rest! As customers, there are a lot of things that we take for granted. I know someone who works in quality control, at a plant that makes the adjustable metal pipes that connect stoves to gas lines in a house. Her work is exacting, for if just one little thing is off, it come mean a house fire and the loose of life! With cars having both hare and software, main systems and sub systems, if a manufacturer cuts corners in just one area that, to them seems small, it could have disastrous consequences. That the challenge with BEV upstarts, for if one of them cuts a corner, it can have a ripple effect on their products as well as cause potential buyers to question the safety of others. I know there is a rush to get the newest tech and the newest startup brands on the road and into the hands of customers. Yet, can you imagine if that Huawei was the latest 2.5 second to 60, 500hp, 300 mile, $100K darling, that folks were putting $5K deposits on, but the crash test saw the cabin ‘peel open like a can of sardines’!

  11. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 I find it interesting how some people like low lift over height, and some like high lift over. I know model airplane flyers who have bought Promasters for low, and Transits for high, both for the same purpose of carrying large r/c airplanes. I suspect those who step inside the van like low.

  12. wmb Says:

    #11.) I guest I’m just traumatized by the way the Big/Detroit Three we’re beat on in the ‘80 and ‘90s, for being inferior to import automakers for things engine quality, interior appointments and the materials they used, as well as the high lift over in the trunks, compared to oversea competition! As hard to hear it was, these comparisons were all true and the Detroit Three HAD to adjust, bottom line! So that that’s why when I see and read who luxury automakers are using interior materials that are in many respects, the same interior materials the Big Three used and are applauded for it, it just stinks! ‘It’s not just plastic, it’s recycled plastics’ ! But it’s plastic nonetheless, in an $70K vehicle! If this same material was found in a Cadillac, Lincoln or Chrysler in the ‘00 or 2010’s, it would have been yet another nail in the coffin of those brands! The same is true with the hit lift over. With vehicles receiving ‘points’ for how easy it is to use and store things in vehicles, to miss an opportunity to make the frunk of the R1T, R1S and now the EX90, easier to load, by having a lower lift over in the frunk, IMHO, is a big miss! They had a clean sheet of paper in designing the vehicle (as clean a sheet of paper, for a platform that will provide the bases for a number of different brands and models), so certainly this could’ve been addressed in the planning stages?! Yet, this will not keep anyone from purchasing any of this vehicles, for it is just added space most did not have before in the ICE vehicles. Tesla was the first to demonstrate that this could be a usable space, since there was no engine. Whether it will be used for storage and how easy it is to store things there, I am sure, will not keep them from sell one vehicle!

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    A few days ago, I had a situation where it would have been good to have a small amount of “lift over” between the floor and rear bumper of my Highlander. The floor slopes down a little toward the rear, and is flat to the bumper. I had a bottle of wine start to roll out when I opened the liftgate. I was lucky to catch it before it landed on the pavement. My old van has a plastic piece about an inch tall at the rear of the cargo area, preventing such things from happening. I don’t know if the Highlander is typical of crossovers, in having the rear floor so things can roll out when you open the liftgate.

  14. Lambo2015 Says:

    12 Good Point! They should make these EV frunks lift up with the grille in place like the old Dodge trucks did. Open the front so things can be put in without having to lift it over anything.

    To your point about the big domestics getting hammered by the imports in the 80s-90s I really never found it to be about the interiors or trim. The land barges of the 80s-90s where actually really nice like almost a lazy-boy compared to the imports. But that was the problem. The big three here were still stuck making huge unreliable vehicles that got 12 MPG while the imports got 25-30 and were reliable. I remember when my dad got rid of the 76 Impala station wagon woody with doors that were 8 inches thick, and he bought a 1979 Datsun and my dad had to constantly remind us kids to not slam the doors that were maybe 3 inches thick and probably 1/4 the weight. The seats were not as nice, and everything was cheap plastic and light. So, I just don’t really remember the interior being an upgrade. Yes, engine reliability, cost and MPG absolutely.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 I suspect it is much easier to make vehicles crashworthy if the whole front of the vehicle does not hinge up for a frunk. There would be some serious structure in front of the frunk in a C8 or Cayman, and needs to be for an EV, at least if the frunk is deep.

    The problem with the 80s “big three” cars intended to compete with the Japanese cars, is that they weren’t any good. I had a Citation that I still feel guilty about selling to a friend. It was mostly ok for the ~20K miles I had it, but it was mostly downhill after that. I had an ’86 Celebrity wagon with the “iron duke” 2.5, GM’s “good” four cylinder, and the head cracked at about 60K miles. Both it, and the similar engine in my Citation used more oil than they should have from when they were new. My 1989 Dodge Caravan was probably better than the direct competition of the time, but there wasn’t much serious competition yet. Sienna and Odyssey didn’t come along until later.

    The somewhat downsized big GM cars introduced in 1977 weren’t bad, for the time, as long as you didn’t get a diesel.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Well, the frunk lid can go down to the top of the bumper, but that looks a lot different in a Lightning, and a Cayman/Boxster.

  17. Lambo2015 Says:

    15 Funny the cars you mention. My brothers and I shared a Chevy Citation in High school which was an okay car other than being about as generic design as you could get. I dont even remember what happened to it other than we didnt have it for more than maybe a year. My older brother did own a Olds Delta 88 with the diesel and actually didnt have any problems with it and got great mileage for the size car it was. Plus, that was back when Diesel was cheaper than gas. I also owned a 1989 Grand Caravan. Which I ran the wheels off that. finally got rid of it when it had over 200k miles and the transmission started slipping.

  18. Kit Gerhart Says:

    17 Back when the GM employee discount was actually worth something, a co-worker bought and sold a car every ~6 months. He was generally good at picking ones that would have good resale when almost new. He got an early Caprice diesel wagon, and sold it before the word was out on them, and he came out very well.

    Another friend didn’t come out so well. He bought a GM diesel, and Olds as I remember, and the crankshaft broke shortly after it went off warranty. I think he got some compensation with the repair, but he didn’t save nearly enough on fuel to make up for the blown engine.