AD #3516 – Tesla Redesigning Model 3 & Y; Prius Prime Gets 65 Mile EV Range; EU ICE Ban Could Collapse

March 1st, 2023 at 11:48am

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Runtime: 9:54

0:08 Tesla Redesigning Model 3 & Y
1:17 Tesla to Build Plant in Mexico
2:01 EU ICE Ban Could Collapse  
3:22 More Details on Ram REV
4:21 Stellantis Invests in EV Components
5:21 Inside Buick’s Electra E5
7:06 Prius Prime Gets 65 Mile EV Range 
8:14 USPS Buys Ford E-Transits
8:48 Chinese EV Offers Karaoke

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19 Comments to “AD #3516 – Tesla Redesigning Model 3 & Y; Prius Prime Gets 65 Mile EV Range; EU ICE Ban Could Collapse”

  1. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I hope the Tesla redesign will improve the displays and controls, adding a speed readout in front of the driver, a real wiper switch, and a few other things to improve user friendliness. To me, the Model 3 still looks fine on the outside, though it could use a “T” emblem or something on the nose.

  2. Lambo2015 Says:

    Sean; Will the Tesla news, make Tesla the first EV manufacturer to last long enough for a redesign? Or did the BMW I3 go through a refresh?

    EU doing as I predicted and back peddling already on the full out ICE ban. Common sense has to prevail and realize that EVs are not the answer to all the transportation needs.

  3. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It looks like Ram has confirmed that the range extender will be an engine-generator not connected to the wheels. It will probably compete with the late, ultimate gas hog V-10 Ram/Dodge for dismal gas mileage when the battery is run down. Hopefully, most people who buy them will plug them in regularly for most of their use.

  4. Kit Gerhart Says:

    2 Nissan Leaf had a major refresh, or maybe it was a complete redesign.

    I’m not surprised that the EU is backing off of their compete EV ban. Also, I expect some car companies, like GM, to back off on plans to make only EVs after a hard date of 2035.

  5. Ron Paris Says:

    How come no word on the rebadged Mercedes Metris and (I believe) Dodge Promaster vans that USPS has been buying to supplement its aging delivery van fleet?

  6. Sean McElroy Says:

    @Lambo – Yes, the i3 was refreshed. As Kit said the Nissan Leaf was redesigned as well as the Chevy Bolt and Jaguar I-Pace come to mind. The VW ID.3 with updated styling was just revealed. And you could probably argue the MINI Cooper Electric too.

  7. Albemarle Says:

    There’s not a lot of difference between PHEVs and range extenders. Some range extenders power the wheels because it’s more efficient to do it that way than to generate electricity and run a motor.

    I am most interested in the Ram range extender. Ostensibly it will allow better range when towing. However, towing is a high power activity. Up till now the range extender ICE was a little, efficient engine. This won’t have the power to keep the Ram’s electric motors working while towing uphill through the Eisenhower tunnel for example.

  8. GM Veteran Says:

    5 – USPS won’t buy any more Metris vans, but as part of this announcement, they also said they would buy the same quantity of RAM ProMaster ICE powered vans as they are the Ford e-Transits.

  9. D Ford Says:

    Not surprised the EU has backed off the all-electric mandate. Myself, I feel a more balanced energy usage approach would be a greater benefit to the environment, the industry, and the end user. Some applications scream for EV usage while others would benefit from other fuels.

  10. GM Veteran Says:

    On the RAM Rev, I expect the replenishing generator will be a small ICE engine, though probably larger than was found on the Volt and BMW i3. Perhaps a 4 cylinder. It would be easy to program the gas engine to come on line earlier when the truck is in towing mode to make sure it keeps the battery charge level viable.

  11. GM Veteran Says:

    Very disappointing to see the Cadillac interior design so closely copied in the new Buick. So much for that Cadillac exclusivity they talked about. This was their opportunity to really separate and elevate the Cadillac brand, but as usual, the savings through duplication are just too hard to ignore.

  12. Lambo2015 Says:

    10 I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ram use a diesel generator. They are ideal for running a constant RPM and high torque plus more efficient than a gas genny. Just a matter of cost and emissions.

  13. Kit Gerhart Says:

    7 The only true series-only range extender sold in the US, under than the almost nonexistent Fisker Karma, was the BMW i3 REx. The i3 got a very mediocre 31 mpg combined EPA rating on premium gas. For comparison, the bigger, heavier Chevy Volt which mechanically connects the ICE to the wheels under some conditions got 42 EPA mpg on gas.

    For the RAM to work under all normal conditions, including pulling a big trailer at 80 mpg, it will need a big engine and generator, maybe 200+ hp. Maybe they will use GPS and software to put extra juice in the battery when possible, going flat or downhill, if it sees that you are approaching the uphill run of the Eisenhower Tunnel.


    The range of the new Prius Prime makes it the perfect candidate to replace my current hybrid. It would be electric only for my commute and Hybrid for everything else that I do often. It is also roomy enough for what I need my daily car to do. Hopefully it won’t be a fortune to buy.

  15. XA351GT Says:

    Maybe some in the EU are realizing that forced compliance isn’t going to work. I’m in agreement with those here that are saying a varied choice is the best. there a just things that EVs won’t do well and trying to ram a square peg in around hole is very foolish. Until the infrastructure can fully support all EV all the time it is a dead end street. I’ve said it before that until charge times are equal to filling a gas tank it is beating a dead horse. The amount of space and chargers to supply it is unobtainable.

  16. Kit Gerhart Says:

    14 I wish they’d just stretch the Prius by about a foot. Then, it could be a more efficient replacement for my Highlander. The Highlander is carrying around 1500 pounds of extra weight, and a foot of extra height, just to provide the floor length I need for my toys. The Highlander hybrid gets great mpg, though, for what it is, especially for lower speed, stop-and-go, and short trips.

  17. Bob Wilson Says:

    #2 – The BMW i3 Rex refresh included: (1) solid, heavy duty engine mount, and (2) 2017 added more batteries. A former BMW i3-REx owner, the original plastic/aluminum engine mount broke and was replaced under warranty.

    The replacement engine mounts were solid aluminum and the bolts increased in diameter a couple of mm.

  18. Bob Wilson Says:

    Watching Tesla Investor Day, there is enough for 3-4 Autoline After Hours. Ask Sandy or Cory … better still, a team they provide and you’ all schedule a two hour, After Hours.

    BTW, no new product announcements.

  19. Kit Gerhart Says:

    18 I’ll try to find a video. It might be interesting, at least if it talks about cars at all.