AD #3568 – Ford Starting Direct Sales in EU; Tesla to Make Pouch Cells; GM Develops New IC Engine

May 16th, 2023 at 11:51am

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Runtime: 9:00

0:00 Tesla Price Cuts Boost U.S. Sales
1:13 Stellantis Slams on the Brakes in Canada
1:48 VW’s Scout EVs Not Ready Until 2026
2:23 Stellantis, Faurecia, Michelin Join Forces for Fuel Cells
3:31 Ford E-Tourneo Debuts in Europe
4:46 Ford Starting Direct Sales in EU
5:48 Tesla to Make Pouch Cells
6:18 Zeekr 001 Gets 1,000 KM Range
6:51 GM Develops New IC Engine

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21 Comments to “AD #3568 – Ford Starting Direct Sales in EU; Tesla to Make Pouch Cells; GM Develops New IC Engine”

  1. rick Says:

    so is the 310 hp 430 lb ft torque a high output version of the 2.7L inline 4 cyl. in the silverado?

  2. Sean McElroy Says:

    @Rick – Yup, you nailed it.

  3. ChuckGrenci Says:

    GM’s 2.7 is certainly a high power engine, what it lacks is better fuel economy; perhaps that could be the forte with the 2.5-liter; similar power but better economy.

  4. George V Ricci Says:

    It seems to me that the new GM 2.5 will eventually replace the 2.7 engine.

  5. GM Veteran Says:

    With an annual capacity of 200,000 units, the Scout plant may start building another VW brand truck or SUV model soon after Scout production begins. Maybe the VW Amarok will finally make it to US dealers.

  6. Kit Gerhart Says:

    3 I certainly hope the 2.5 does better with gas. The 2.7t is a gas hog compared to the competition, here in “mid-size” pickups. It’s even worse than the ancient Taco V6.

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=46562&id=46187&id=45866

  7. Kit Gerhart Says:

    It seems that everything with EV batteries remains completely in flux. I had been convinced that cylindrical batteries were the way to go, from what Sandy Munro and others had said, but now, Tesla are getting into pouch cells. Interesting.

  8. Lambo2015 Says:

    So the report, a year or so go that GM had no future ICE engines in development was just environmental dribble to appear as though they were all in on EVs. Not surprised.

    So how much does this Zeekr weigh?

    Get prepared US dealers that Ford direct sales is coming as it should.

  9. Albemarle Says:

    I have been hearing some other information on the Stellantis battery plant situation in Canada. Stellantis and LG were originally happy with the agreement which was made before the IRA was firmed up in the states. Then Canada had to respond to VW (extremely generously by Canadian standards) in order to secure that battery plant. Stellantis and LG then decided since they hadn’t really started the plant construction yet, for a few billion more they’d move to the states or hold Canada’s feet to the fire for more money. Hence the current situation. All that would be reasonable except for their disingenuous reasoning that Canada was reneging on the money. Not true. They just wanted a better deal.

  10. rick Says:

    to me the mistake made with the 2.7L turbo engine from gm it should have been a 5 cylinder.

  11. kevin A Says:

    I believe it will be at least 20 years before EVs displace all ICE production. During the transition, wouldn’t it make economic sense for OEMs to reduce costs and maintain economy of scale by having fewer different IC Engines or outsource production of commodity type engines to share with other OEMs? ex 2 litre 4 cyl. Why hasn’t that started already? Same with auto transmissions. If an EV doesn’t use it, shouldn’t it be outsourced? Any insight on why that hasn’t happened or when it is going to start?

  12. Kit Gerhart Says:

    10 Other things being equal, fewer cylinders is more efficient, but there appears to be something inherently wrong with the GM 2.7 turbo. Ford’s 2.7 V6 turbo gets better mpg in big pickup trucks, at least the EPA numbers.

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=45775&id=46159

  13. wmb Says:

    Ford is going to do ‘Virtual road tests’?! How do you do a virtual road test from home? The puof the road test is to give rhe potential buyer of how the vehicle rides and “feels” to traffic imputes and road conditions. Hiw do you do that from a computer, while sitting at your dinning room table? Are they going to send someone who wants a virtual test drive, an articulating, computer aided, simulator?! Having someone bring a vehicle to your home for an actual test drive is one thing, but I’m having a hard time envisioning a virtual test drive.

  14. ArtG Says:

    The GM 2.7 in the CTS-V (not Blackwing) is rated at 325 hp/380 lb-ft.

  15. Kit Gerhart Says:

    8 The thing that surprised me with GM is their doing another generation of small block V8. Can it be much better than the current one?

    As far as the big turbo 4, they need to do something. That 2.7 is a gas hog compared to the competition in about every application, whether big pickups, mid-size pickups, or cars.

    Here are some cars. The BMW is roomier, faster, and, yes, less thirsty.

    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=45502&id=45603

  16. rick Says:

    12 i think 4 cylinders were too few for the silverado

  17. Wim van Acker Says:

    @ 1 MM EVs expected to sell in the U.S. this year: so that equates to an 8% market share? I don’t know exactly what the total light vehicle sales are in the U.S. The Autoline TV team knows for sure. Please enlighten us. Thanks.

  18. Wim van Acker Says:

    @13 virtual road test, just like a Peloton bike or treadmill :-)

  19. rick Says:

    stellantis got it right with the hurricane inline 6 cylinder. based off that engine there should be a 1.5L 3 cyl. a 2L 4 cyl, and a 2.5L 5 cylinder engine.

  20. Kit Gerhart Says:

    16 From what I’ve read, it drives ok, but what’s the point if it doesn’t get good mpg?

  21. Kit Gerhart Says:

    19 There is a 2.0 four version, but yeah, 3 and 5 cylinder versions would be good for some applications.

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