Episode 605 – UAW Criticizes Mulally’s Bonus, China Develops GPS, GM & Chrysler Sue Car-Hauler

March 23rd, 2011 at 11:34am

Bob King, the president of the UAW, is calling Alan Mulally out on his recent stock bonus of nearly $57 million. China is going to make its own GPS available for civilian use, to challenge the U.S. monopoly in satellite navigation. General Motors and Chrysler are suing car hauling companies for holding on to their vehicles and not giving them back. All that and more, plus John responds to your comments about Audi, Nissan and much more in the “You Said It!” segment.


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It’s Autoline Daily for March 23. Here’s what’s happening in the global automotive industry.

Starting next year the United States will no longer have a monopoly on satellite navigation. That’s because China is going to make its own GPS, called Beidou, available for civilian use, especially for navigation in cars. Right now China has seven satellites in its system, but it wants 35 satellites by 2020 to fully challenge the U.S. GPS. The nav systems that use Beidou are said to be cheaper than GPS ones. Beidou is not to be confused with the most-popular internet search engine in China known as Baidu.

Bob King is stirring the pot again. The UAW President is calling Alan Mulally out on his recent stock bonus of nearly $57 million. King says Mulally is a great CEO but called the sum “outrageous,” adding he didn’t think any human being in the world deserves that much money. King also called the sum “morally wrong” and said it will help the UAW get a better deal when it negotiates a new contract later this year. And he is right, that will help the union at the bargaining table.

After a long drought Chrysler is finally getting some competitive products to sell, and Bloomberg reports the company is pushing its U.S. stores to hire more sales and service workers. It wants to increase vehicle sales 32 percent this year! It’s working with its 2,300 dealers to extend hours and add quick-lube services. Last year Chrysler’s sales staff fell 10 percent but its competitors increased theirs. Its service advisers also generated significantly less cash per month than rivals at GM and Toyota. This seems like a pretty ambitious goal but it’s still early in the year so anything’s possible.

Even though Ford has turned things around in the U.S. market, it still lags behind its competitors in Asia. That’s why the company announced it will introduce eight new models in Southeast Asia over the next five years. The company did not say what models it will introduce. Reuters reports even though Ford’s sales in the region have grown 175 percent this year it still has less than 2 percent of the ASEAN and Thai markets. Ford says it will use its manufacturing base in Thailand as its hub for expanding into the ASEAN markets. An interesting tidbit in the article says Indonesia will soon pass Thailand in sales, which is the largest market in the region.

General Motors is suing Allied Systems, a Georgia-based car-hauling company, accusing it of holding over 1,700 of its vehicles hostage worth nearly $47 million. According to the Detroit News, the dispute started when Allied wanted to charge GM more for its services after it failed to get wage concessions from the Teamsters union. Obviously GM said no and Allied stopped delivering the vehicles and won’t return them. The vehicles were on the way to the dealer and GM says a number of them have already been purchased by customers. In the meantime, GM has hired other companies to transport its vehicles.

And it’s not just GM. Chrysler is suing Canadian-based Allied Holdings to get it to return 700 of its vehicles it’s holding onto. Chrysler too has hired other companies to transport its vehicles.

Coming up next, it’s time for You Said It!

And now it’s time for some of your feedback.

HtG wants to know, “When Mark Reuss said he was concerned about mass efficiency in the Cadillac, it wasn’t obvious to me he meant ‘lighter car better.’ What is mass efficiency?”

HtG, to me it means that for a given size vehicle and its duty cycle, what’s the weight of the vehicle and how does it compare to others in its class?

tp1943 weighed in on the story of The Detroit News’ car critic Scott Burgess quitting, when they softened down his critique of the Chrysler 200 after an advertiser complained. But the News later apologized. tp1943 says, “I am impressed the Detroit News ‘stepped up.’ I sure hope Scott returns to his job and continues with his honest opinions.”

And C-tech says, “I wish they would consider you for Top Gear, God knows they could use some auto expertise and entertainment. Good luck.”

Bajabusta saw our report on the new Audi A6 and says, “I like family design cues, but come on Audi, all three of your sedans 4, 6, 8 look far too similar!”

But vandredparty says, “Audi is easily one of the best car companies in the world. Audi FTW.”

That’s For the Win.

DocWolph has some good insight on Nissan’s commercial vans, “Nissan’s biggest problem may be the same one Toyota has with the Tundra: Service Turn-Around. The Tundra failed to catch on as a serious work truck because Toyota service centers would not service the truck as quickly as Ford, Chevy/GMC, and Ram centers. If the truck needs work today I want it done before I need it again tomorrow. If Nissan can’t deal with that, the NV vans and trucks will fail to make a real dent in the commercial van market.”

JETZcorp has a fascinating take on sulfur in gasoline and two-stroke engines. “Sulfur and the resulting (NOx) emissions with lean-burn engines are what killed Chrysler’s two-stroke engine they were going to put in the original Neon. Too bad, it could’ve been pretty awesome. Today, outboard motor manufacturers are making very good (and clean!) two-strokes.”

WesleyConoway says, “The people are all complaining and worrying about the radiation from Japan, then they go to the tanning salon.”

I laughed my head off when I read that one.

Don’t forget to join us for Autoline After Hours tomorrow night when our guest will be Ken Lingenfelter, who’s company makes some of the coolest performance mods in the business. Join me and the Autoextremist, Peter De Lorenzo, for the best insider information of what’s going on in the automotive business. That’s tomorrow night on Autoline After Hours.

And that’s today’s report on the top news in the global auto industry. We’ll see you tomorrow.

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39 Comments to “Episode 605 – UAW Criticizes Mulally’s Bonus, China Develops GPS, GM & Chrysler Sue Car-Hauler”

  1. steve Says:

    “The UAW President is calling Alan Mulally out on his recent stock bonus of nearly $57 million.”

    I agree, nobody is “worth” that, including the millions atheletes make, celebrities, etc.

    But the reason they get that kind of money (and I understand it’s not really money yet) and King and I don’t, well I don’t anyway, is because that’s their “VALUE” to the company.

    I’d really like to be a fly on the wall at those negotiations and see how much of a role all this posturing really has.

  2. Mike Says:

    From what I have heard there was a different reason for the non use of the Oribital Engine concept in automobiles. There is something called the School Teacher cycle that involves a scenario of a short trip where the engine doesn’t really warm up. This is a cold climate test and condensation in the compressed air for the exhaust scavenge resulted in ice. This didn’t matter for outboard applications where the water stayed a liquid.


  3. shan Says:

    By the way, Bob King has to reveal his yearly earnings from UAW before he climbs up on his upcoming soap box. 56 million is clearly absurd, but it pales in comparison to bonuses that top Wall Street firms hand out to its employees each quarter.

  4. Jim Taylor Says:

    So just what magic number is Mr. King thinking of? And I’m sure many factory workers are doing jobs that are just as difficult and repetitious as a auto manufacturing but making half or less the money- does that mean the UAW workers should make less to make their pay less outrageous and morally right? Is the fact that Mr. Mulally saved Ford from bankruptcy and thousands of UAW jobs not worth some truly big bucks?

    Bet Boeing wishes they had AM back at the helm!

  5. Brett Says:

    I sure am glad that humanity has reached the point where money is the only quantifiable metric that has any merit whatsoever.

    Should AM earn more money than a gifted surgeon who saves hundreds of lives every year?

    Apparently, because he made everybody invested in Ford so much money!!

    How did our society become so dysfunctional?

  6. tj Martin Says:

    OK ….. on this whole too much money and who’s worth it or not issue .. an example from my world of who’s NOT worth it most times and why .

    As some of you may have ascertained I’ve been a professional musician/composer with breaks in Higher Ed teaching since 1973

    I’m also a trained Sound technician ( Degree S R & Engineering )

    One year a friend who was a Sound man for a very large female star asked me to sub for him for two weeks so’s he could attend to a family emergency . To say the least the ” Star ” had the typical Primadonna attitude and friend had warned me she had a fit against the sound man at least every other concert .

    Well as you’ve seen from me here my BS tolerance factor is about Nil , and one night as expected ” Star ” went off on me with her manager in tow .

    After she’d finished here rant I kindly ( yeah right ) suggested she adjust her attitude before the next concert . She then asked why .

    I told her ;

    ” Its simple deary . It doesn’t matter how good you sing or how much you shake yer (bleep) if I TURN the knobs in the wrong direction you’re going to sound like crap ”

    Point being the Star ( of any situation ) isn’t crap without the support of a well appreciated and well paid back up team . And at these modern pay discrepencies that just aint the case at FORD or anywhere else . Which may be why the cars we’re buying do turn out to be such POS far too often .

    Oh and the end result of my confrontation ?

    She raised my pay almost double . Never heard another complaint and she kept the pay raise for when the permanent guy came back . He said she never raised hell again .

  7. Bob in Atlanta Says:

    So Mr. King and the UAW will be negotiating “a better deal” with Ford later this year because Mr. Mulally was paid for saving Ford from bankruptcy. Last time I checked the UAW owns major stakes in Ford’s two US competitors, GM and Chrysler, as the result of their former companies’ bankruptcies. How can the UAW negotiate with Ford without a clear conflict of interest? Simply put, the more the UAW can hurt Ford, the greater the value of UAW’s equity stakes in the two losers.

  8. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Okay, this is conjecture on my part, but could it be that it took China (this long) to finally copy/steal our U.S. GPS (and call it something else) or are they really bringing something new to the market?

    And my take on the car transporters taking hostages; as long as the transport of the vehicles was under contract, they the transporters, should be legally bound to deliver as negotiated. The auto companies, in my mind, have every right to demand delivery or have the transporters face criminal charges.

  9. tj Martin Says:

    KIA Sorento Review ;

    (hold on to it H/S this is going to be a short but very bumpy ride )

    Because of the immediacy of the situation we booked everything last minute including the Rental Car ( Hertz was sold out and only Thrifty had anything available )

    So I was stuck with a KIA Sorento for seven days and some 225 miles of City and Highway driving .

    Well all my suspicions were correct when I’d assumed the way Hyundai/KIA stuffs all those options bells and whistles at such low prices was because the Quality of EVERYTHING in the cars is plain cheap .

    The seats are Spanish Inquisition Torture Devices no doubt designed in N. Korea as interrogation devices ( my back is still hurting thank you KIA )

    The interior materials made my wifes Toyota matrix seem like a Bentley in comparison .

    Driving the thing was like driving a wallowing pig in a mud field ( handling was abysmal ) The Brakes felt like wood and I was never confident they’d stop in time

    MPG was a JOKE for a small SUV ( the GLK did better )

    Expansion Joints completely upset the suspension and the car was so affected by Cross Winds as to be unnerving .

    Sum up ? Oh it may look good ( albeit a Honda Clone ) and have a ton of gizmos for the money . But in reality it falls neatly into an old Chinese saying .

    ” Dung wrapped in Gold Leaf is still just a Shiny piece of (Bleep) “

  10. Michael Says:

    Aaaaahh… King’s just upset that he doesn’t get that much.

    But seriously, I would like someone to give an honest responce to this:

    If you controlled salaries accross the board at (let’s just say) Ford, what would the average line worker make, and what would Alan Mullaly make? Seriously.

    I’m no financial wizard, so you don’t have to worry about me countering your pay structure proposition with arguments about the viability of paying each worker $150,000. I just wish to know from those who feel Mullaly’s pay is excessive.

    What should his pay be for turning a car company around in the midst of the greatest global economic challenge felt since the great depression? And additionally, what should the “lowly, downtrodden” line workers be getting paid?

  11. Zieke Says:

    Well said TJ. Altho I’ve had GM cars for a long time their earlier yr. vehicles have had the same probs, with stuff starting to fall apart in 50 or so k miles. Hope they and Ford continue to improve. Doesn’t take to weed out an unacceptable vehicle after you’ve driven it for a few thousand miles.

  12. dcars Says:

    I wonder, is Mullaly’s pay in line with other executives in this type of company? Could Ford get another executive that is just as good for less money? Is this a one time bonus for or a continual bonus? I truly can not ever justify someone making that much but if they want a good leader, then maybe that’s what he’s worth. Think of where Ford would be if he and Bill Ford didn’t do what they did. I think the Union has to consider if they’re membership is paid (including benefits) fairly for the work involved.

  13. HtG Says:

    tj, I just finished reading ‘No Angel’ by Tom Bower, UK edition. I understand you’re loath to getting your own copy, lest Bernie Ecclestone get any moneys, so here’s a deal for you, take it or leave it, as the man says.

    I offer you the book, sent to the address of your choosing, gratis. Here’s an email account I set up so you can give me the information: 54321HtG@gmail.com. Doesn’t have to be your real address, just so the book to you. If you want the package, then add your street address to your zip code, and then post the sum here on the AutolineDaily board; that’s to be sure it’s really you emailing me.

    Now, tell us a bit of what you think about Autotune and the likes of Rhianna, J-Lo, or LadyGaGa.

    Oh, and what did you make of the tranmission in the KIA?

  14. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Loved your “Ms. Star” story.

  15. tj Martin Says:


    You’re too generous . Let me think on that fine offer a bit .

    But is the book any good ???

    AutoTune etc. Oh I just love Autotune Pitch Correction etc etc etc

    ( sarcasm intended ) Add the multitude of Tech devices designed to make a non talented wench like GaGa sound good in concert and on CD ( oh but is she even singing live . Bet not . Like a certain MJ I’ll bet its all taped and she’s lip syncing ) To the fact that a certain Hit Factory in Sweden is in fact writing arranging and composing 90% of whats being sung by these Pop Phonies ( regardless of what the credits say and three Guesses who owns the Hit Factory in Sweden ; A Hint if you need it . Its Bourdain’s most despised group of all time )

    Oh yes I just love modern pop music. It was bad enough when Studio Musicians were recording most of the hits instead of the band but at least those were REAL musicians and the Band did have to learn the songs to perform them live back then .

    But now with all this Synthetic Crap and Digital Fixes . Well ” Dung wrapped in Gold Leaf ” is too kind !!!

    Tranny in KIA . It and the engine were probably the only acceptable aspects of the little POS . Not great but acceptable .

  16. HtG Says:

    Here are some notes from ‘No Angel’ that may interest readers of this board.

    -Car manufacturers like Toyota, BMW, Ford and Honda entered Formula1 for the purpose of marketing their brands to China, India, southeast asia.

    -Toyota dumped over 700 million into their programs with hardly any success at the track. Bernie Ecclestone just scoffed at their efforts.

    -In 2009 when Brawn was advantaged due to its ‘double diffuser,’ they passed muster with officials at the FIA because Max Mosley wanted to favor the small teams over the manufacturers. The device was in breach, I inferred.

    -Bernie Ecclestone, Formula 1 sopremo, got his start trading used motorcycles and cars. He had a very quick mathematical mind that he used to quickly sum up the value of lots of vehicles, and make big ‘take it or leave it’ offers that their owners couldn’t quickly reckon. Bernie also would ‘clock’ his inventory before he sold it; that means he rolled back the odometers, for our american readers.

    -one of the reasons there are so many pit stops in F1 is that the stopped cars give more time for advertisers logos to be seen on TV screens. This is deliberate.

    -The level of dysfunction and cheating helped push Toyota to cancel its F1 program.

    -Ferrari has extracted decamillions in extra payments from the sport. Ever since the days of Enzo Ferrari, the popular draw of the prancing horse has been wielded to divert extra cash to Maranello. Ferrari itself is very dependent on this money, and its F1 exposure to market its cars. At one time, under JM Balestre’s reign at the FIA, weight minimums for the race cars were raised in order to favor Ferrari which was running a heavier turbo-charged car at the time.

  17. HtG Says:

    come on tj, it’s my pleasure. No strings. The book gives a creditable look at how F1 grew into such a worldwide phenomenon. See how it really is a vipers nest. See Ron Dennis made a figure of fun. See Flavio Briatore angling to take over Bernie’s empire. See Slavica absolutely wreck Bernie in front of kings. See how unstable the contracts governing the sport truly have been. See Bernie fail in his digital TV effort.

  18. HtG Says:

    Oop, just remembered another tale from the book. At the infamous last F1 in Indianapolis, when Michelin tires were failing on the banking at 180mph, Ferrari torpedoed a solution. Max Mosley proposed that a chicane be installed on the banking in order to keep speeds down, and asked the Ferrari team manager, Jean Todt, if he would agree since Ferrari was running on Bridgestones that didn’t have the issue. Todt declined.

    And that’s how 130,000 american fans were told to p*ss off.

  19. tj Martin Says:


    Its a great offer and as I said very generous of you but I think I’ve had enough of the Poison Dwarf to last me a lifetime . Not to mention enough of how and why F1 has gone from the Pinnacle of Motor Sport to one step away from NASCAR WWC staged Soap Opera endings .

    Really I think Bernie missed out on his True Calling . In light of current events he’d of made a fantastic Middle East Despot .

  20. tj Martin Says:


    I was there and very PO’d as well as knowing exactly who had scuppered the solution and why ( so Ferrari could win an easy one ) Not that Ferrari would EVER cheat in Motor Sport . Nahhhh Never happen . Not in a million years .

  21. dcars Says:

    It used to be a lot of fun to go to an F1 race, the crowds, the cars, the atmosphere. It was truly enjoyable but the absolute trashing of the US and the arrogance of the administration just made it not fun. The problem is Indy cars have gotten totally boring with its same car for every team look. Nascar is a little better but not much.

  22. HtG Says:

    very well, tj. I’ll move down my list.

    One reason I read the book was to try and divine who will follow Bernie. It’s clear Briatore wants it, but he may be too criminal minded for the bankers, and Slavica doesn’t like him. I think Niki Lauda may be interested, and he’s portrayed as having the nous for the entrepeneurship needed to run the circus. Did you know Bernie himself rues what the sport has become? He finds the drivers boring compared to the days of James Hunt; and was surprised when Alonso wasn’t able to pass on Tilke’s track that was supposed to allow for passing.

    Oh, and Mosley got off a good one about Jackie Stewart, saying he dressed up ‘like a 30′s dance hall man.’

  23. HtG Says:

    crxn, it was at last year’s final race at Abu Dhabi where Alonso was held back by Petrov that Ecclestone was disappointed in the track attributes.

  24. Chris Young Says:

    I’ve been reading John’s daily for a couple of years and watching Autoline for longer and have not yet written anything here. But I just have to now. I am recently retired; 40 plus years doing lots of different stuff is enough. For the major portion of that time I have been a mechanic, repairing stuff that those poor, downtrodden stiffs on the lines assemble from brand new parts.

    I have never been able to figure why it is that ordinary Joes doing repetitive jobs that can be taught in a week or so can be paid so much. It makes no sense at all and never has. Allan Mullaly earns what he earns by being responsible for the well being of all those workers and for that of the owners of the company, just as do executives of other successful companies.

    Henry Ford became famous and successful for paying $5 a day so the workers could buy the products they produced. I’m sure he never intended that they live in mansions, too.

  25. Jesse W. Henry Says:

    I did some looking and couldn’t find the information. Jon what I would really like to know is what is Bob King making?

    He seems to feel that the wage scales are grossly out of favor toward mamagement but I would like to know if he practices what he preaches. If he makes more than 25% more than the highest paid employee that he is representing than he is nothing more than a greedy despot as well, and if he hates overpaid executives so much he should cut his pay and give it back to the line workers in the form of lower union dues.

  26. T. Bejma Says:

    HtG – I’ll take the book.

    I also WAS a Formula 1 fan and regular Indianapolis ticket holder from the comeback USGP in 2000 until the tire debacle.

  27. tj Martin Says:

    Looks like the KIA over expansion joints problem is common thru out the line up and it’s not just me saying so .

    autoweek.com today is reporting in their test drive of the ( not so ) Optima that it lost its composure over those expansion joints as well .

    So cheap or more expensive , if its a KIA beware when you hit those EJ’s . I’ll add that at 65 mph each joint shifted the Sorento’s track a good 2 inches that I had to correct for .

    @ T.Bejima & HtG ; The last five years of F1 BS is what’s done me in as a fan ( since 1964 )

    @ HtG ; Bernie’s whinging about what Formula One Has Become ??!!??!!?? WTF ?!?

    He’s the one that made it what it is , so WTH is he trying to blame for his own creation ????

  28. HtG Says:

    that’s what the book is about, tj. See Bernie take control of the paddock, excluding the unfavored. See Bernie whinge about those ungrateful owners ‘he’ made rich. See Bernie and Max muscle Balestre out of the way, and show circuit owners who is in charge. See Bernie deeply suffer when his pal Jochen Rindt loses his life in a crash, hardening him to the drivers. See Bernie vote to ban McLaren over spygate. See Bernie try to have us think he’s just a simp, too dim to know better than to praise Hitler.

    A very maddening read indeed. You have 24 hours tj. Then I go to no.2 on my list. Sorry T.Bejma.

  29. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Wow,all the greed between Ford’s AM,and yet again King with the uaw.WTF……over.For almost 4 decades I have been forced to live on my VA pension and SSD.No cola for the last 2 years and prices out the roof.I see all this talk about high paid execs getting this,offered that,unions wanting this and more of that.No one thinks about the folks who,by act of war can’t go out and earn,we kept this country free and we don’t get shit.But the executroids “deserve” that much for saving a copany.What about the people who save a country?

  30. cwolf Says:

    John Mc: Just read your pals,DeLorenzo, rant on the UAW and one that has been an ongoing subject,so I felt compelled to comment.
    DeLorenzo sure has a gift for the written word,perfected a style,due to his eloquence and word choice, to come across as convincing and true. But after all was said, not one supportive fact wase provided for his rant and even his bouquet of verbage couldn’t cover up the smell of Bull Crap he so ignorantly spread: A true prior marketing guy polished by the automotive elite who line his pockets. And in return,used his talent to try to come across as convincing that unions are the sole cause for the automotive downfall,as if labor costs, and not the auto industry stupidity,was the straw breaking the camels back.
    Quite evident Peter chooses to live and relive past blunders.And to remain”Included in the Loop” with those in the industry appearently has become selectively blind.Blind of the facts that union wages are comparable to all others,worker output is up,concessions have been made as needed and as well as other mensionables stated on this forum. And to foolishly attempt to try to make one believe he knows what goes on behind the doors of Cobo Hall only indicates that DeLorenzo will write almost anything to feed his ego and to remain on the good side of those on the industry inside.
    AS Peter says: This is the way it is and this is the rant of the day.

  31. XA351GT Says:

    Maybe Ford should take a page from he NFL and lock them out. Hire people that want jobs and not whine about what the boss makes. Christ every company today the owner(CEO) makes a lot more than the workers do. I know the owner of my company does. So what do I do piss and moan and threaten to leave? They’d say don’t let the door hit you on your way out. Fact is there are a lot more people wanting jobs than there are positions available. I’ve said it before the UAW needs to look at a calendar it’s not 1950 anymore. They have become a joke that many other Americans despise because of their constant bitching about money. Be happy you have a job 9% of the nation envy you.

  32. Bob in Atlanta Says:

    Chris Young #24: One dirty word to explain the high pay for auto production line bolter-oners: UNION – the same beast that is destroying state, county and city budgets due to incestuous relationships with politicians. It’s the same relationship between the UAW and former so-called management that nearly destroyed America’s auto industry.

  33. Bob in Atlanta Says:

    cwolf #30: Thanks for reminding me to read this weeks Autoextremist.com. And don’t you forget to pay your UAW dues.

  34. C-tech Says:

    For Boob in Atlanta, its obvious you have not been in a auto assembly plant since 1982. Most “bolter-oners” are the robots which assemble and weld cars (is bolter-oners a real word or something an eight year old invented?). many union workers now have to work with multiple tools and machines to build many different models on the same line. Management (or lack of) and UAW lack of foresight have caused much damage jointly to U.S. industry. Let’s be honest about it, too much “corporate” money sent to the right politicians have created some very slanted rules and regulations favoring the people with the most money.

  35. Bob in Atlanta Says:

    C-tech #34: Most of the folks I saw working at the Spartanburg BMW plant were driving forklifts. The second largest group appeared to be contractors from Siemens managing the computers and robots. Nobody told me they were being forced to work there, or complained that the head of BMW makes money than they do. Maybe I need to tour a UAW-controlled plant to find unhappy workers with multiple tools.

  36. dcars Says:

    Realizing that car companies don’t have to build in the United States and the unlikely hood that any transplant auto factory will go union it would be very unwise for the Unions to attempt to financial damage the companies that have excepted them. A better strategy is for the UAW to help in increasing shareholder value at Ford, GM and Chrysler/Fiat. They (the UAW) are also share holders. The proper forum for discussing CEO’s pay is through the board of directors not Union negotiations.

  37. Ralph Kercheval Says:

    Mr. King,

    You sound like you have the makings of being a fine SOCIALIST.

    When did doing an excellent job NOT earn an excellent wage. Unlike your minions that make more than above average wages and get caught drinking and using dope on lunch breaks. I guess as long as they keep paying those union dues you can turn a blind eye.

    another example of unions far outliving their usefulness.

  38. Brett Says:

    You know, part of me almost looks forward to unions going extinct. It’d be interesting to see just how quickly people change their tune when their pay is cut arbitrarily, are fired on a whim, are forced to work 50 or 60 hours a week to keep their job, etc.

    Oh, but there are LABOR LAWS! That can’t happen! Bulls**t. When the government’s been bought and paid for by big business, those laws won’t last a decade when the unions are gone.

    It’ll be the Gilded Age all over again.

  39. Wayne Says:

    To Chris Young: Have you ever worked on an assembly line? It can be very tedious and mind numbing to say the least.
    To Boob in Atlanta: Did you actually talk to a cross section of the workers at the BMW plant or just “observe”?
    To Brett: Been there, seen it happen to myself and especially others in our “non-union shop”.
    To all: Yes, many of the unions have gotten “stupid” with their actions and need a swift kick in the a**, but look out if they disappear completely. Also do you think the companies that pay well and have good benefits to keep the unions out would continue these practices if the unions did not exist anymore? I think not!