AD #1635 – Subaru Helps Protect Pets, Genesis Stealing Equus Sales, Drunk Driver Detector

June 5th, 2015 at 11:52am

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- NHTSA Mandates ESC for Heavy Trucks
- NHTSA Debuts Drunk Driver Detector
- Subaru Partners to Protect Pets
- Subaru’s STARLINK System
- Did VW Make e-Golf A Truly ZEV?
- AWD Genesis Cannibalizing Equus Sales

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76 Comments to “AD #1635 – Subaru Helps Protect Pets, Genesis Stealing Equus Sales, Drunk Driver Detector”

  1. Bradley Says:

    America’s Politicians aided by Big Business have made child seats a massive cash machine for the elite. By the time your child graduates from High School you will have spent over a $1000 on child seats. If you follow the law, you have to shell that out for each kid too.

    We should have safety available for pets, but no LAWS. These guidelines will eventually become law. Ugh!!

  2. HtG Says:

    I didn’t see any of those videos crash testing a dog strapped to the roof of an AMC Rambler wagon. I guess that’s a low risk.

  3. Chuck Grenci Says:

    Convertible child car seats are available for under $200 that will take your child from baby to adult (safely). But agree, pet restraints should not need to be a law; but some personal responsibilities should be exerted to protect your pet.

  4. Bradley Says:

    #3

    I have not seen those or heard of this.

    For me:
    First Child Seat $200 + $100 for two bases.

    Second Child Seat $250

    I will have to buy one or two boosters too.

  5. Rob Says:

    Blood alcohol check using the push button start! Guess you better not use hand sanitizer

  6. HtG Says:

    Bradley, Craigslist is one way people cut costs.

    https://newyork.craigslist.org/search/baa?query=child+safety+seat

  7. JDay Says:

    I’m really excited about this drunk detection technology as it will help get the 2 most dangerous types off of the road, drunks AND cops. I think the breath analyzer would be better than the shifter idea especially if they integrate it with an optical scanner to make sure it’s actually the drivers breath its passively analyzing instead of a passenger leaning over and blowing towards it. also the shifter idea could be moved to the steering wheel to analyze the drivers skin passively from time to time just in case the driver is literally drinking and driving and going to become drunk after the cars already started.

  8. Bradley Says:

    Ha!

    #6
    I said following the Law. As its illegal to sell a child seat.

    Both of the ones I bought used the word “Convertible”, but neither really saved me money. You have to buy two and then boosters. As the infant child seat is so specific and small.

  9. Bradley Says:

    The breath thing could pick up your drunk friend’s breathe and the sober designated driver can’t get them home.

    Who is to stop the sober passenger from pushing the button?

    These technologies will only work for the lone drunk. Which maybe they are responsible for the majority of accidents, etc.

  10. HtG Says:

    8 Are you sure?

    From the cpsc.gov website,

    “CPSC urges you to take a few extra steps when you sell your used products and to follow the
    advice in this Guide to ensure that you are only selling safe products. And while you are not
    required to test your products for safety, resale stores, resellers (including those who sell on
    auction websites), and persons who give away used products for free cannot knowingly sell
    products that do not meet the requirements of the law. If a product is hazardous, or does
    not comply with standards, the product should be destroyed and not be sold or given away
    to others.”

    http://www.cpsc.gov//Global/Business-and-Manufacturing/Business-Education/ResellersGuide.pdf

  11. Bob D Says:

    The takeaway from the test crash video is that the restraints currently on the market for pets appear to have significant deficiencies and provide false security to the pet owners who use them. I suspect the biggest issue is that any object tethered is going to be difficult to restrain/keep safe, unlike humans who are strapped into the seat and are more in one with the seats.

    Basically pets = flying projectiles in a high speed collision.

    Darn Newton and his Law of Inertia.

  12. Bradley Says:

    #10

    That is interesting. Not that I would buy a used one. I was told by numerous people second hand stores won’t sell them, etc.

  13. Enn Norak Says:

    Drunk driver detection is a noble idea but a small amount of alcohol is produced naturally in human intestines and the amount varies from person to person. I would hate to have my car fail to start when I know that I have not drunk any alcohol whatsoever.

    Such a system could end up as a major cost concern if it becomes subject to a mass recall such as we have seen in connection with faulty ignition switches.

  14. JDay Says:

    If anybody’s intestines produce enough BAC to hit .08 you need to call a doctor and maybe Guinness book of world records too. These technologies aren’t brand new or cutting edge. Breathalyzers Herve been around for a while now so I think it could be pulled of without much difficulty. The only thing new about it is the concept of putting it in place before the act not after you’ve already killed somebody driving drunk and they are breathalizing u at the crash scene or checking your blood in the hospital/morgue.

  15. aliisdad Says:

    Having a close friend who was permanently disabled due to a drunk driver makes me happy to at least see any attention given to stopping drunks from driving… I rarely favor additional laws; however, I think drunk driving should be punished without mercy to those who are irresponsible and drive after drinking… What an easy thing to prevent if only those a’holes who drink and drive could be stopped…. Until some people become responsible (which NEVER will happen fully), I like the idea of anything that will help in any way…

  16. HtG Says:

    .008 BAC

    It’s estimated that by 2020 $1.7Trillion will be spent on IoT stuff. No stone is being left unturned by our nerderatii in their search for applications. Like BAC detecting wheels.

    http://ragingbull.com/forum/topic/1030340

  17. Kit Gerhart Says:

    15 Drunk driving causes deaths and injuries, but distracted driving probably now causes as many. It’s time to do something about texting drivers, and it’s time for the NHTSA to set standards requiring that “infotainment” systems be safe to use while, you know, driving the car.

  18. JDay Says:

    if u think texting and driving is bad try eating a carne asada burrito while driving and have it start leaking all over your favorite outfit, or sipping scalding hot coffee with a weak lid. I don’t think they should be allowed to sell hot foods in drive thrus, ever try driving with a 2 year old and a 5 year old in the back seat that both want the same toy? There should be a devider so the driver can’t be distracted by kids. See how silly all this sounds. I texted and drove all the time for like 8 years before it was even illegal and Ive never crashed anything. I think if u are a NEW driver you should not be allowed such distractions but if you can drive 10 years no accidents then you get a pass.

  19. Drew Says:

    18 JDay – Shame on you. No texting. Period. It takes your eyes off the road. You were and are a serious accident waiting to happen.

    I see too many vehicle wandering out if their lane, often toward oncoming traffic. I also observe too many drivers who have lost awareness that the traffic light has turned green. It takes several honks to get their eyes up out of their miserable dumb phone I can imagine a spike in road rage statistics in our future.

    Just drive.

  20. Chuck Grenci Says:

    My mistake, all in one car seat (under $300).
    http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=32177046&cagpspn=plab_17945940&camp=PLAPPCG-_-PID17945940:BRUS&eESource=CAPLA_DF:32177046:TRUS

  21. JDay Says:

    Yea I control my phone I don’t let it control me, if I’m approaching a red lite or coming up on traffic or in close proximity to pedestrians or other cars or on a windy road ect ect ect I just wait but there’s times when it’s safe contrary to what the media hype would want u to believe and there’s this little thing now called voice text so I press one button (without looking at my phone) speak my text and its translated (without looking at my phone) and send it (without looking at my phone). Next time u mess with your radio think about how much more distracted u probably are than me while I’m texting. Shame on u.

  22. w l simpson Says:

    I had signs on my wrecker that said–
    “Drink more booze, it’s good for my business”

  23. HtG Says:

    What’s so seductive about texting is that people can really manage it most of the time. (I’ve tried it. I can’t do it. Freaks me out, reading my phone while moving) The other day I watched an exec type in an XTS come to a stop behind another car at a light, with his eyes down on his phone. Maybe he had that enhanced cruise control, but he did it fine. I try not to drive in front of someone I see texting.

    It’s that one time you mess up

  24. Kit Gerhart Says:

    21 You think changing the radio volume or station is as distracting as texting? You’ve got to be kidding. Even voice text is quite distracting, because you have to read it to make sure it came out right. It often does not come out right, both with my S5 and my sister’s iPhone 6.

  25. JDay Says:

    Mine comes out good almost 100% of the time on my iPhone. Speak clearly and try to use words you know the phone won’t have a problem with and make sure u turn your radio down to cut background noise but when u do it be very careful taking your eyes off the road. It only takes one second fiddling with that radio lol

  26. pedro fernandez Says:

    I see plenty of dogs riding on the bed of pickups and there are no laws or safety anything to protect those animals. Today I had 4 instances of drivers on cell phones, going too slow in the passing lane, hesitating when the green light came on(twice)and drifting in and out of their traffic lane. All were on their cell phones. I don’t know what these cops are doing around here. Wait, I know, they themselves are doing the same thing, never mind.

  27. Kit Gerhart Says:

    Pedro, the cops are doing the same thing for their “personal” business, and they have even more distractions with all of that extra electronic stuff in their cars these days.

  28. Drew Says:

    21. No one is that good at texting and driving. Statistics show it is riskier than drunk driving, and I’d bet you wouldn’t advocate for drunk driving. ‘Nuff said.

  29. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Texting and driving is very dangerous.When I see it,I call a cop and give them the license number of the vehicle.It’s beyond dangerous and stupid.It’s bad enough to see tons of drivers with their cell phones up to an ear while driving,and in my state,that is illegal as well.Don’t have a built in bluetooth? Do as I did years ago,I bought a bluetooth unit that clipped to my sun visor because it wasn’t offered back then in my jeep.

  30. Brett Says:

    This entire conversation is why autonomous vehicles are going to be huge. All of the people you describe would rather not be bothered driving. All those autonomous vehicles will operate in a straightforward, predictable fashion. Your quality of life will be improved because people who’d really rather not be bothered with driving and don’t do it very well anyway won’t have to anymore.

  31. Kit Gerhart Says:

    29 Even hands-free talking is dangerous, because of the mental distraction, and no, it’s not the same as talking to a passenger. A passenger in the car can see what is going on around them, and act accordingly, including saying something if the driver screws up. Someone at the other end of a phone conversation only hears the horns blowing and the crash.

  32. HtG Says:

    I’ve complained about it before, but I see most passengers, especially kids, engrossed in their phones as they are driven around. The problem is that they lose touch with how to behave around traffic, whether driving or walking or riding a bike. A driving instructor told us that he saw younger people now as less able to learn to drive fast because having spent so much time with screens so close to them put disciplining their eyes for fast driving out of reach. (I don’t know how true that is, but it is what he said)

  33. XA351GT Says:

    Bradley @ #9 That could be a issue if there were many in the car with alcohol breath. I would wonder if just putting down the windows could fool the test. Also on your second point I would hope that someone would have the common sense not to ride with a drunk and just drive for them instead. I like the system in it’s principals It would definitely save lives and fines and jail time when clear thinking is impeded by a alcohol daze.

  34. HtG Says:

    30 what Brett said

  35. JDay Says:

    well I at least give some of u credit for manning up and admitting that u aren’t good enough drivers to operate a simple cell phone and drive at the same time that takes a lot of courage. However I am. I suppose it’s not fair to compare myself to others tho and they don’t make laws to fit individuals and so is the flawed society we live in. However In my mind regarding texting while driving I’ve had 20 cars/trucks in the 29 years I’ve been alive (never crashed nothing), come from a long line of truckers and myself can drive an 18 wheeler, drove myself every ware for 2 years before I turned 15 1/2 and got my license (thank god I didn’t get caught doing that), have owned and operated dangerous and hazardous vehicles including old volkswagens with sloppy suspension that I had to pump the brakes and that caught on fire on occasion all the way up to high hp cars that I built myself in more recent years. Now it sounds like I’m bragging but there’s a point to all of that. My point is that I refuse to hold myself to the same standard as a 16 year old girl that just got her license last week and is texting her friends asking for directions cause she’s late for the party. She needs to put the phone down before she hits me n my kids. “Nuff said”

  36. G.A.Branigan Says:

    And there you go….you can’t argue with a fool.

  37. pedro fernandez Says:

    I have bee “rear ended” a couple of times at my local market by someone texting while they pushed their cart and not looking where they were going. I guess if I responded angrily that could be called supermarket isle rage?

  38. JDay Says:

    Well since we’re calling names keep snitching u snitch. Calling the cops when u think somebody might be using there phone. Don’t u know cops kill people? Your part of the problem.

  39. Wayne Says:

    To JDay. I think maybe you should take one of those obstacle course driving tests while texting versus not texting to see how deluded you are. Even professional race drivers don’t do well while texting.

  40. HtG Says:

    Now for something completely different,….The Darpa Robotics challenge livestream. Live

    http://theroboticschallenge.org/

  41. JDay Says:

    That’s like saying I should try it in a completely unrealistic circumstance that’s bias and designed to make me fail.

  42. JDay Says:

    And don’t say what I know your about to say which is that those are modeled after real life cause if that’s the case how come I haven’t crashed yet….

  43. Kit Gerhart Says:

    41, 42 I have a friend who has driven home from bars drunk about every night for 40 years, and never crashed. That doesn’t make it a good idea to do that.

  44. JDay Says:

    No it sure doesn’t and it makes u either a liar because let’s all face it that isn’t a true story or guilty by association for knowing and allowing somebody you call a friend to do that. Look I understand that they make laws for the dumbest percentage of the population and the rest of us have to follow it but I’m sorry my phone will not ever make me crash. Might cost me a little money if I get caught using it but it won’t make me crash. Is operating a phone while driving 100% absolutely safe nope but is driving in the first place nope neither is standing in your own living room. You can’t nerf the world because some people are stupid. Every so often society likes to grab hold of some social trend or idea and run with it. Rite now it’s don’t text n drive, every other summer people get all hyped up about leaving kids in cars. Last year people were dumping ice buckets on there heads. The real thing about the cell phone laws is that they generate revenue. yall are brainwashed.

  45. HtG Says:

    44 Dude, are you fronting? Is texting and driving competence your pet topic?

  46. HtG Says:

    NYT report on NHTSA acknowledging own errors on GM ignition. Buried on Friday afternoon.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/06/business/nhtsa-admits-missing-clues-to-gm-ignition-defects.html?hpw&rref=business&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=0

  47. JDay Says:

    Nope. No front. Never talked about it on here before until somebody else brought it up. I just have this problem ware I feel compelled to combat stupidity.

  48. Drew Says:

    I
    When we had Take Your Kids To Work Day, I was on the agenda to talk to them about automotive safety. The kids ranged from 10 to 16 years old. Their parents were also in attendance. I asked each to text “talk to you later” to their parent or sibling, while their parent timed them. The fastest did it in 3 seconds; most were between 8 and 11 seconds. My message was the castest texted would have their eyes off the road for an equivalent of a football field length… and if traveling at 65MPH, a lot of nasty things can happen in that distance/time.

    JDay, I fear you are living on borrowed time.

  49. Kit Gerhart Says:

    44 I know him well enough to know what he does. Yes, I’ve ridden with him a few times when he would have probably been over .08%. A person’s making some bad decisions doesn’t prevent them from being my friend, whether those decisions are driving after drinking, or texting while driving. And you say I “allow” someone to do that. it isn’t that simple, at least from my experience.

    I’m done arguing with you, JDay. I don’t need to get something going as I had with another person who hasn’t been here lately.

  50. JDay Says:

    All my comments are now awaiting moderation so I guess I must have hurt someone’s feelings (probably G.A. Since he is a self admitted taddle tail). I don’t want to be banned for thinking for myself so let’s just agree to disagree everybody ya? I’m sending this message from my car lol

  51. JDay Says:

    Hey moderator can u please send me the rules to this comment section to my email or kindly direct me to ware I can read them so that my comments don’t keep getting deleted as it seems I’m breaking some rule that I’m unaware of. Also it seems that kit has issued a half a**ed ban threat by saying that someone else he got into it with in the past hasn’t been here lately. I come here to learn not be threatened.

  52. G.A.Branigan Says:

    You seem to be preaching how good a driver you think your are.People like you don’t learn to damn good because you think you have a handle on everything.

    You called me a snitch,wow that really hurts,I’m over it now.Maybe one of those ignorant drivers that was clearly texting might have run into someone,I don’t know,but I damn sure don’t want it to be me,or any of my kids while on the road.

    Your too hung up on yourself to even see what your saying is all wrong.But I will tell you this,you keep on driving while texting as you do,and one day you’ll ruin your ‘perfect’ driving record by hurting someone because you thought you had it all under control,in fact,it’s just dumb luck….so far.

  53. C-Tech Says:

    If NHTSA and Subaru need a pet cat as a test subject I will happily provide my neighbor’s Boo.

    The Genesis might be stealing sales from the Equus, but maybe the Equus and Hyundai dealers aren’t up to the task of competing with $70K cars.

  54. pedro fernandez Says:

    I used to talk on the cell as I drove and twice I bypassed an exit that I had to take causing me to waste time, gas and arrive late to see a client, I only answer the phone in case of an emergency and don’t call anyone as I’m driving.

  55. HtG Says:

    49 JDay, sometimes the server will not post because the spam settings got triggered. If you try to repost, you’ll get shut out again. Two links in one post won’t get posted. But otherwise, Autoline gives posters a lot of room to run and encourages a “vigorous debate.” Go too far and you will get bounced, though judging by past experience it takes a lot. I try to act like I’m in a local bar and John is the owner: a little restraint goes far.

  56. Bradley Says:

    #20

    Thanks!

    I didn’t see that when we were in the market. You still will need boosters, but that would have saved us $200.

  57. Kit Gerhart Says:

    The Genesis is the newer redesign, and costs less than Equis. It’s no wonder the G is selling better. Yeah, a lot of luxury car buyers want 4wd, as John said.

    51 You are right on with Hyundai dealers selling expensive cars. The same applied with VW dealers trying to sell the Phaeton. Dealer experience is important, and has a lot to do with People paying thousands extra for cars like a Lexus ES, rather than buying the similar Toyota.

  58. pedro fernandez Says:

    #55 Ditto for the Kia 900, I have yet to see a new one out there, they should make fine, affordable luxurious sedans 3 yrs used, I suppose.

  59. pedro fernandez Says:

    I am noticing a bunch of new cars out there, seems like those lofty sales numbers we’ve been reading about are factual, at least around these parts.

  60. HtG Says:

    Loads of new Chrysler 200 here, suddenly.

  61. pedro fernandez Says:

    Same here, but who knows how many rentals!!

  62. Kit Gerhart Says:

    I see a lot of Chrysler products of all types here in Kokomo, IN. Probably half of the decent paying jobs here are with Chrysler, and people seem to be supporting the company they work for.

  63. G.A.Branigan Says:

    Lots of chrysler products around here too.Mostly Rams,and mini vans….but lots of them. Mopar too em.

  64. C-Tech Says:

    Just did 3,000 miles in a 2015 Charger SXT (3.6L V6 and 8 spd auto.) not quite as smooth as a 2015 Impala, but the handling is better, the controls easier, and it got 34 mpg highway, 24 city and a combined 30 mpg. The trans uses gear 1-6 in city driving below 40 mpg and it uses 4-8 above 40 and on the highway. Made me a believer.

  65. G.A.Branigan Says:

    @ C-Tech: Now that was a helluva test drive ;}>

  66. Kit Gerhart Says:

    62 How fast on the highway? That is really good mileage.

  67. C-Tech Says:

    Orlando – Chicago – Detroit – Chicago – Orlando, with a quick stop at the Corvette museum in Bowling Green Kentucky.

  68. G.A.Branigan Says:

    C’mon C-Tech…cough up the driving impressions etc.

  69. Kit Gerhart Says:

    65 So probably 75-80 on the interstate? If you got 34 mpg doing that, I’m impressed. I only get about 35 with my MINI for that kind of driving. That’s 35 actual, dividing it out with multiple fill ups. The readout says about 37.

  70. HtG Says:

    65 C-Tech, I think the server may be having trouble posting your story about the Corvette museum.

  71. Kit Gerhart Says:

    65, 68 ….and the Charger road test.

  72. C-Tech Says:

    Ok Driving Impression: This was the SXT Charger so it had the 3.6L and 8 speed. The interior was nicely upgraded with the 8 in touchscreen, heated cloth seats, and bluetooth. The 3.6 had plenty of power, 300hp is good enough and the throttle response was linear. The trans seemed to always find the right gear, the only exception is when I tried to feather the throttle in stretches of the city where you could consistently do 40 mph. This caused the trans to upshift to a higher gear and lug the engine. Driven normally and it was fine. Coming off the freeway to a stop you could feel the torque converter clutch disengage. It starred on the highway with people and luggage, very comfortable. The satellite radio made everyone happy. I have driven an Impala and it feels more softly sprung than a Charger. The pop-up screen and info. sys. in the Impala is more confusing. I would recommend the rear camera/radar since the boxy rear end does limit your view.

  73. C-Tech Says:

    The Corvette museum in Bowling Green really is everything you wanted to know about the Corvette but didn’t ask! Admission to the full displays is $10 for adults, hours are 8am to 5pm weekdays with free parking, and starts with a short 10min. video (this gives your group time to take and buy some pictures. The displays are much like Disney or Universal in their layout. It is a revolving display towards the end, this month is NASCAR (nothing to do with Corvettes? no I don’t understand). They are still rebuilding the area where the sinkhole swallowed 8 cars. This area is now part of the displays with the story of how it happened, the background of each Corvette, and some of the social and comedy treatments of the story. The unrepairable cars are still sitting there, so you can see them from a distance. This is also where you pick up your Corvette if you arrange to pick it up from the factory. Several were waiting for their new owners. The staff is nice and knowledgeable.

  74. C-Tech Says:

    Kit, on my legs on highways I-75, I-24, I-65, and I-94 the readings were 32-36 mpg, lower through the hills in Georgia and Kentucky. I accept the readings may be a little off but the gas stops were less than when I made this trip is the Jeep. I usually set the cruise control at 75mph. A little faster through Florida. The city readings were about 24-26 mpg.

  75. C-Tech Says:

    Some useless trivia: Zora Arkus-Duntov only bought 1 Corvette in his lifetime.

  76. Kit Gerhart Says:

    73 Did he get a lot of free ones, or just the use of them?